Military nurse who cared for Saddam

MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
edited January 2007 in A Moving Train
Anyone see this guy's interview on CNN? It looks like he was about to cry when talking about saddams execution.

It looks like they became good friends.
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A colonel told Ellis: "Saddam Hussein cannot die in U.S. custody. You do whatever you have to do to keep him alive," the newspaper reported.

"That was my job: to keep him alive and healthy so they could kill him at a later date," said Ellis, 56, an operating room nurse at St. Joseph Health Center in St. Charles, Missouri.

"I knew all along what they were going to do. This went against my grain as a nurse, but as a soldier -- well, that was my job," said Ellis.

During his tenure at the prison, Ellis said that he checked in on Saddam regularly and got to know him.

When Saddam was allowed outside for a short time, he fed birds bits of bread that he had saved from his meals and watered some weeds.
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  • The Waiting Trophy ManThe Waiting Trophy Man Niagara region, Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,158
    MrBrian wrote:
    Anyone see this guy's interview on CNN? It looks like he was about to cry when talking about saddams execution. It looks like they became good friends.

    dick cheney has good friends, too. they will shed tears when he dies, too. go figure.
    Another habit says it's in love with you
    Another habit says its long overdue
    Another habit like an unwanted friend
    I'm so happy with my righteous self
  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    aBoxOfFear wrote:
    dick cheney has good friends, too. they will shed tears when he dies, too. go figure.

    Are you comparing Saddam to dick cheney?
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,949
    MrBrian wrote:
    Are you comparing Saddam to dick cheney?
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    Well, the poster is in his box of fear that liberals and Eddie preach and trick people with, so what else is he supposed to think? Remember when the liberals scared us all into thinking the Republicans would steal the 2006 election? That was a good one.
  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    I dunno about any of that, i'm just trying to show that at the end of the day, as bad as saddam was, he was still a human.

    I'm meeting people in person all talking about how great it is that he was hung, passing the video along. Justice was not done, he did not even have a fair trial. It was as scripted as a hollywood movie. How is having a corrupt court system good for iraqis? we should be sad that the US backed court system in iraq is so corrupt, as corrupt now as it was under hussein, and people cheer "justice was done!"
  • PaperPlatesPaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    How exactly was his trial unfair?
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  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    MrBrian wrote:
    I dunno about any of that, i'm just trying to show that at the end of the day, as bad as saddam was, he was still a human.

    I'm meeting people in person all talking about how great it is that he was hung, passing the video along. Justice was not done, he did not even have a fair trial. It was as scripted as a hollywood movie. How is having a corrupt court system good for iraqis? we should be sad that the US backed court system in iraq is so corrupt, as corrupt now as it was under hussein, and people cheer "justice was done!"

    Figures the only thing muslims can do right is kill someone real quickly.
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  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    How exactly was his trial unfair?

    Well to start off with, replacing a judge in the middle of a trial. Then...

    http://www.theage.com.au/news/World/Saddam-trial-unfair-rights-group/2006/11/20/1163871307599.html

    http://kutv.com/topstories/topstories_story_324120850.html
  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    MrBrian wrote:

    Didnt they kill the judges family, which is why he was replaced?
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  • PaperPlatesPaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    MrBrian wrote:


    Sadamm and his lawyers intentionally made that trial into a circus. He got what was fair, trust me.
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  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    miller8966 wrote:
    Didnt they kill the judges family, which is why he was replaced?


    He was replaced because they said that he was "too soft" on hussein. well that was one of the reasons anyway.
  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    Sadamm and his lawyers intentionally made that trial into a circus. He got what was fair, trust me.

    I'd like to trust you my friend, but from what I can see, the facts say otherwise. This according to human rights watch.
  • PaperPlatesPaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    MrBrian wrote:
    I'd like to trust you my friend, but from what I can see, the facts say otherwise. This according to human rights watch.

    Yeah, another organization 100% free of agenda or bias. Like any other organization run by humans. You trust the UN too, don't you? :p
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  • fair trial? what was saddams defense? we know what he did and he wasnt ashamed to admit it, he got what was coming to him end of story.....so the moral is you can commit genacide but if you feed birds we should let you off
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  • spongersponger Posts: 3,159
    On an interpersonal level, dictators are known to be very charming people. Mafia bosses are known to be the same way....and well, uhm, politicians too..go figure.
  • PaperPlatesPaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    fair trial? what was saddams defense? we know what he did and he wasnt ashamed to admit it, he got what was coming to him end of story.....so the moral is you can commit genacide but if you feed birds we should let you off

    Tyrannical mass-murdering dictators are people too. ;)
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  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    fair trial? what was saddams defense? we know what he did and he wasnt ashamed to admit it, he got what was coming to him end of story.....so the moral is you can commit genacide but if you feed birds we should let you off

    If revenge is the basis for this new iraq, I don't see how things will ever get better.

    I never said let him off, but the only moral of this story that I can see now is that you can commit genocide you get hung, unless you are an american president.

    is it not sad that they could not even find him guilty of the mass graves? not that the 148 dead was a small number. why cut it short? not like killing him now was gonna end the killing.
  • MrBrian wrote:
    If revenge is the bases for this new iraq, I don't see how things will ever get better.

    I never said let him off, but the only moral of this story that I can see now is that you can commit genocide you get hung, unless you are an american president.

    is it not sad that they could not even find him guilty of the mass graves? not that the 148 dead was a small number. why cut it short? not like killing him now was gonna end the killing.


    im not a bush fan but saying he commited genocide is just dumb
    4/28/03, 7/5/03, 7/8/03, 7/14/03, 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 9/15/05, 9/16/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05, 5/4/06, 5/12/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/30/08, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09, 5/18/10
  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    im not a bush fan but saying he commited genocide is just dumb

    How about mass killing? major destruction of innocent lives? I dunno, what else do you wanna call so many thousands of innocent people lost on his orders?

    and any exucse about how America does not target innocent lives does not mean much, what does one expect to happen when dropping a 5 ton bomb? or chemical weapons on villages? just label them as a casualty of war so you may sleep better.
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    MrBrian wrote:
    If revenge is the basis for this new iraq, I don't see how things will ever get better.

    I never said let him off, but the only moral of this story that I can see now is that you can commit genocide you get hanged, unless you are an american president.

    not like killing him now was gonna end the killing.

    All very good points. (with typo corrections).:)

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  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    gue_barium wrote:
    All very good points. (with typo corrections).:)

    hehe, thanks. very kind of you.

    I noticed them after but was too lazy for corrections. I figured my point would still be made.
  • MrBrian wrote:
    How about mass killing? major destruction of innocent lives? I dunno, what else do you wanna call so many thousands of innocent people lost on his orders?

    and any exucse about how America does not target innocent lives does not mean much, what does one expect to happen when dropping a 5 ton bomb? or chemical weapons on villages? just label them as a casualty of war so you may sleep better.

    Of course it is genocide and they know it.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

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  • spongersponger Posts: 3,159
    I know it can be fun to throw around the word genocide at any old world leader who is responsible for the dropping of bombs. But, I think it's important to have some respect for the word genocide by using it where it applies.

    gen·o·cide

    the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group.

    Bush is not out to exterminate arabs. He's interested in the oil on top of which the arabs live. A lot of arabs may have died, but his intentions were to kill no more arabs than is necessary to take control. On the other hand, Saddam was interested in exterminating the kurds because he saw all kurds as the enemy. Bush = mass murder Saddam = genocide
  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    sponger wrote:
    I know it can be fun to throw around the word genocide at any old world leader who is responsible for the dropping of bombs. But, I think it's important to have some respect for the word genocide by using it where it applies.

    gen·o·cide

    the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group.

    Bush is not out to exterminate arabs. He's interested in the oil on top of which the arabs live. A lot of arabs may have died, but his intentions were to kill no more arabs than is necessary to take control. On the other hand, Saddam was interested in exterminating the kurds because he saw all kurds as the enemy. Bush = mass murder Saddam = genocide


    what about DU weapons? that kills more than is necessary, it kills years afterwards or gives you children w/ birth defects...
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • spongersponger Posts: 3,159
    El_Kabong wrote:
    what about DU weapons? that kills more than is necessary, it kills years afterwards or gives you children w/ birth defects...

    They also melt right through the thickest armor.
  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    sponger wrote:
    They also melt right through the thickest armor.

    did the iraqis and afghanis have thick armor? did the iraqi military even put up a fight? so there is no reason to use something that poisons the land and ppl
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • spongersponger Posts: 3,159
    El_Kabong wrote:
    did the iraqis and afghanis have thick armor? did the iraqi military even put up a fight? so there is no reason to use something that poisons the land and ppl

    Thank you, El Kabong, military logistics expert.
  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    sponger wrote:
    Thank you, El Kabong, military logistics expert.


    don't mention it. can i put 'military logistics expert' on my resume?
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • RushlimboRushlimbo Posts: 832
    All this hate and still no one will talk about the good things Saddam was responsible for. Hate = blinders.
    War is Peace
    Freedom is Slavery
    Ignorance is Strength
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    MrBrian wrote:
    I dunno about any of that, i'm just trying to show that at the end of the day, as bad as saddam was, he was still a human.

    I'm meeting people in person all talking about how great it is that he was hung, passing the video along. Justice was not done, he did not even have a fair trial. It was as scripted as a hollywood movie. How is having a corrupt court system good for iraqis? we should be sad that the US backed court system in iraq is so corrupt, as corrupt now as it was under hussein, and people cheer "justice was done!"
    Human? Are you serious, he became human when faced with his own mortality, but the bottom line remains, he could have prevented all this, all he had to do was let the inspectors do their job. He called Bush's bluff, only problem Bush wasn't bluffing.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    beemster wrote:
    Human? Are you serious, he became human when faced with his own mortality, but the bottom line remains, he could have prevented all this, all he had to do was let the inspectors do their job. He called Bush's bluff, only problem Bush wasn't bluffing.

    Well that's something that I find so interesting, such a bad guy found what seems like some sorta peace when he faced his own mortality.

    nevertheless, if you want to talk about prevention, well america could've prevented all of this if it did'nt back hussein in the first place way back when.

    The inspectors also said that he did'nt have WMDs so are we still going on about the inspectors? was this war really about WMDs anyway? even if it took another 10years for more inspectors, so be it, Iraq was not such a great threat that an invasion was a must at that point in time.
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