the money trail

inmytree

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

Yep, no better options out there other than a bought and sold career politician.

yep...

Abookamongstthemany

RainDog wrote:

Thank God. I was worried he wouldn't be able to make it through the General on only small donations. Now that I see he has ample funding on top of the record breaking small donations, I feel a little better.

The usual response....'Nothing about Obama will ever cause me to raise an eyebrow or give a crap.' *sticks fingers back in ears...lalalalalalala*

Abookamongstthemany

inmytree wrote:

yep...

Gee, I wonder why things never change in this country and instead only continue to get worse? What could be the cause of it?....let me think...

RainDog

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

The usual response....Nothing about Obama will ever cause me to raise an eyebrow or give a crap.' *sticks fingers back in ears...lalalalalalala*

I'm sorry. Was the OP something different this time?

Abookamongstthemany

RainDog wrote:

I'm sorry. Was the OP something different this time?

I guess not

inmytree

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

Gee, I wonder why things never change in this country and instead only continue to get worse? What could be the cause of it?....let me think...

it's my fault because I don't support a 4 time loser...

feel free to blame the ills of the world on me...

THC

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

I know, I know...nothing about your precious Obama will ever cause you to stray. Faithful, we all believe.

honestly...while you try to rip apart a decent man, our country will probably elect another republican and continue on its war mongering ways.

take a step back...get a little perspective....

have you thought about what you are trying to accomplish? maybe get nader up to 2%...lol
and when McCain wins by 1%, will you feel like you changed the world?

i would say Obama will change the world a hell of a lot more then McCain...

wouldn't you? or do you honestly think anti-obama threads are gonna promote positive change in some way?

i guess...what i am asking is...who is your second choice for president, if say...something crazy happens and Nader doesnt win?

my2hands

El_Kabong wrote:

i keep hearing how most of obama's money comes from small donations, the average person giving $20 or so dollars....

according to the site below 55% are donations of over $200



amount donated - total amount received
$200-499 - $12,920,436
$500-999 - $16,076,998
$1,000-2,300 - $36,527,004
$2,300+ - $65,899,047
$4,600+ - $11,148,741

no offense, but you may want to take an extra math class or 2, or a statistics lesson or 2...

if you break it down by the # of actual contributions, which is what they are talking about when they speak about the amount of small contributions, then it shows they are absolutely correct... it isnt Obama fault $2000 donations add up quicker then $20 donations...

here i took the amount raised and divided it by the lesser amount in that bracket... check out what i found

$200-499 - $12,920,436 (divided by $200 = 64,602 donations)
$500-999 - $16,076,998 (divided by $500 = 32,153 donations)
$1,000-2,300 - $36,527,004 (divided by $1000 = 36,527 donations)
$2,300+ - $65,899,047 (divided by $2,300 = 28,651 donations)
$4,600+ - $11,148,741 (divided by $4600 = 2423 donations)

so as you can clearly see, the largest amount of donations have come in the form of small donations, by far.

In other words, there are more contributors of less then $500 then all of the contributors above $1,000 COMBINED





thread over, please close it.

Abookamongstthemany

inmytree wrote:

it's my fault because I don't support a 4 time loser...

feel free to blame the ills of the world on me...

Always support the person who will probably win...no matter about records or issues. It's important to follow the masses.

THC

that post is for both of you btw

RainDog

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

Always support the person who will probably win...no matter about records or issues. It's important to follow the masses.

You do know that's how a democracy works, right? Most votes wins?

And you can continue to throw the "no matter about records or issues" all you want. We've heard it. At some point you'll realize they are your "issues," not ours.

Abookamongstthemany

my2hands wrote:

no offense, but you may want to take an extra math class or 2, or a statistics lesson or 2...

if you break it down by the # of actual contributions, which is what they are talking about when they speak about the amount of small contributions, then it shows they are absolutely correct... it isnt Obama fault $2000 donations add up quicker then $20 donations...

here i took the amount raised and divided it by the lesser amount in that bracket... check out what i found

$200-499 - $12,920,436 (divided by $200 = 64,602 donations)
$500-999 - $16,076,998 (divided by $500 = 32,153 donations)
$1,000-2,300 - $36,527,004 (divided by $1000 = 36,527 donations)
$2,300+ - $65,899,047 (divided by $2,300 = 28,651 donations)
$4,600+ - $11,148,741 (divided by $4600 = 2423 donations)

so as you can clearly see, the largest amount of donations have come in the form of small donations, by far.

In other words, there are more contributors of less then $500 then all of the contributors above $1,000 COMBINED





thread over, please close it.

over $77MILLION from ppl giving over $2,300???

The point is that people say most of Obama's money comes from donations of under $200 and that is simply not the truth.

And why close the thread. What are you afraid of?....opensecrets? access to factual information??

Keep this thread open. It needs to be seen.

Rhinocerous Surprise

THC wrote:

honestly...while you try to rip apart a decent man, our country will probably elect another republican and continue on its war mongering ways.

take a step back...get a little perspective....

have you thought about what you are trying to accomplish? maybe get nader up to 2%...lol
and when McCain wins by 1%, will you feel like you changed the world?

i would say Obama will change the world a hell of a lot more then McCain...

wouldn't you? or do you honestly think anti-obama threads are gonna promote positive change in some way?

i guess...what i am asking is...who is your second choice for president, if say...something crazy happens and Nader doesnt win?

Do you get a cash prize for picking the winning candidate or something? Cos otherwise, I think it's pretty important to support the candidate who best represents your views, rather than just following the masses or voting out of fear or whatever.

inmytree

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

Always support the person who will probably win...no matter about records or issues. It's important to follow the masses.

yeah, I voted for bush, twice...:rolleyes:

I really wish I could look at nader's voting record in the senate or the house...oh, wait, I can't...

Abookamongstthemany

THC wrote:

honestly...while you try to rip apart a decent man, our country will probably elect another republican and continue on its war mongering ways.

How is Obama decent? How is McCain not?

THC wrote:

take a step back...get a little perspective....

I have. That's exactly why I'm not supporting Obama. Try taking your own advice.

THC wrote:

have you thought about what you are trying to accomplish? maybe get nader up to 2%...lol
and when McCain wins by 1%, will you feel like you changed the world?

How will voting for Obama change the world????

THC wrote:

i would say Obama will change the world a hell of a lot more then McCain...

Again, tell me how.

THC wrote:

wouldn't you? or do you honestly think anti-obama threads are gonna promote positive change in some way?

No, I don't see any 'change' in Obama. I think these threads bring to light the complete sham that the 2 major parties are. There is no opposition party for the people...only 2 corporate owned parties who work for the same basic things. Tell me where I am wrong.

THC wrote:

i guess...what i am asking is...who is your second choice for president, if say...something crazy happens and Nader doesnt win?

McKinney

THC

Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:

Do you get a cash prize for picking the winning candidate or something? Cos otherwise, I think it's pretty important to support the candidate who best represents your views, rather than just following the masses or voting out of fear or whatever.

No...no cash prize...but you do get the person who wins who most accurately reflects your views. I dont think any politician represents anyones views 100%

voting with a bag over your head, in regards to reality i think is rather silly.

i am still wondering...who is your second choice all you Obama haters? is it really McCain? cause otherwise...you are helping McCain get elected...

my2hands

El_Kabong wrote:

amount donated - total amount received
$200-499 - $12,920,436
$500-999 - $16,076,998
$1,000-2,300 - $36,527,004
$2,300+ - $65,899,047
$4,600+ - $11,148,741


over $77MILLION from ppl giving over $2,300???

okay, now take a look at the $77MILLION from ppl giving over $2300??? that your are shitting your pants about...

$200-499 - $12,920,436 (divided by $200 = 64,602 contributions)
$2300+ - $77,047,778 (divided by $2300 = 33,499 contributions)


so again TWICE as many people have contributed $200-499 as contributed more then $2300...

simple math :rolleyes:

Abookamongstthemany

inmytree wrote:

yeah, I voted for bush, twice...:rolleyes:

I really wish I could look at nader's voting record in the senate or the house...oh, wait, I can't...

He has a mighty fine record of service towards this country, actually.

What has Obama done again??

Abookamongstthemany

my2hands wrote:

okay, now take a look at the $77MILLION from ppl giving over $2300??? that your are shitting your pants about...

$200-499 - $12,920,436 (divided by $200 = 64,602 contributions)
$2300+ - $77,047,778 (divided by $2300 = 33,499 contributions)


so again TWICE as many people have contributed $200-499 as contributed more then $2300...

simple math :rolleyes:

So??

As I already said....most of his money is not from $200 donations as previously claimed.

Abookamongstthemany

THC wrote:

No...no cash prize...but you do get the person who wins who most accurately reflects your views. I dont think any politician represents anyones views 100%

voting with a bag over your head, in regards to reality i think is rather silly.

i am still wondering...who is your second choice all you Obama haters? is it really McCain? cause otherwise...you are helping McCain get elected...

Obama doesn't come even remotely close to best representing my views. We make our reality by our choices. I'm not letting others choices of which I view as misguided and wrong to affect my own choice. My vote will represent what I'd like to see in this country....not what the masses have decided for me. I make my own decisions.