Iraq War Vets talk about randomly killing civilians

El_Kabong
El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
edited June 2007 in A Moving Train
http://www.youtube.com/v/xMe08e2wMZk
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
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  • Rushlimbo
    Rushlimbo Posts: 832
    Innocents die in every war. obviously you dont support the troops.
    War is Peace
    Freedom is Slavery
    Ignorance is Strength
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    I bet there's thousands of stories to be told like this. These same stories were told after Vietnam aswell. It's a shame that people have such short memories and will allow themselves to get fucked by their Government, their media, and their peers.
    More Vietnam vets committed suicide after the war than the amount of those who died in actual combat. I wonder if this fucking sham of a war will produce similar consequences?
    I wonder how many of the pro-war flag suckers on this message board will give money to all the homeless, crippled and maimed Iraq war vets they see on the streets a few years down the road?
    It's also a shame to think that without doubt this same shit will occur again in a few years time. People never fucking learn a lesson.
  • ThumbingMyWay32
    ThumbingMyWay32 Posts: 1,224
    El_Kabong wrote:
    http://www.youtube.com/v/xMe08e2wMZk


    “Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.” John Quincy Adams

    Speaking of sweet reflection... I voted for Bush in 2000 and I must say it does feel quite good to have been a part of the minority that did, and still won. Of course, that may spoil the beauty of your quote. :(

    Can you smell that? Smells like democracy.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:
    “Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.” John Quincy Adams

    Speaking of sweet reflection... I voted for Bush in 2000 and I must say it does feel quite good to have been a part of the minority that did, and still won. Of course, that may spoil the beauty of your quote. :(

    Can you smell that? Smells like democracy.

    Umm...what does that have to do with this thread subject?

    And what principle were you voting for exactly?
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Rushlimbo
    Rushlimbo Posts: 832
    ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:
    “Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.” John Quincy Adams

    Speaking of sweet reflection... I voted for Bush in 2000 and I must say it does feel quite good to have been a part of the minority that did, and still won. Of course, that may spoil the beauty of your quote. :(

    Can you smell that? Smells like democracy.

    I like cornflakes AND cheerios. Wheatabix is alright.
    War is Peace
    Freedom is Slavery
    Ignorance is Strength
  • ThumbingMyWay32
    ThumbingMyWay32 Posts: 1,224
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Umm...what does that have to do with this thread subject?

    And what principle were you voting for exactly?


    It has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of this thread.

    Just giving you something to do, along with something to moan about.

    Did it work?
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:
    It has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of this thread.

    Just giving you something to do, along with something to moan about.

    Did it work?

    I guess it gave me a reason to ask you. I should have counted on it being pointless.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • ThumbingMyWay32
    ThumbingMyWay32 Posts: 1,224
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    I guess it gave me a reason to ask you. I should have counted on it being pointless.


    I know, Abook. Poor, poor you. :(
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:
    I know, Abook. Poor, poor you. :(

    umm...ok, whatever works for you.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    El_Kabong wrote:
    http://www.youtube.com/v/xMe08e2wMZk


    this is really good folks. everyone should check this out.

    nice post kabong. that last guy really brings it home. good to say a man not afraid to express his feelings.
  • Bu2
    Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    which will increase psychiatric treatment funding for veterans of Iraq.
    Feels Good Inc.
  • ThumbingMyWay32
    ThumbingMyWay32 Posts: 1,224
    Bu2 wrote:
    which will increase psychiatric treatment funding for veterans of Iraq.

    I'd be more worried about Tony Rezko.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:
    “Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.” John Quincy Adams

    Speaking of sweet reflection... I voted for Bush in 2000 and I must say it does feel quite good to have been a part of the minority that did, and still won. Of course, that may spoil the beauty of your quote. :(

    Can you smell that? Smells like democracy.

    It was people like you, who voted for Bush, who can claim a share of the responsibility for all the dead and maimed American troops in Iraq in the last 4 years. Well done!
    Anyone who cares about their fellow Americans, and who voted for Bush, should feel ashamed and angry.
    Obviously, though, some people care more about the bank balances of the rich and powerful in America than they do about the increased threat of terrorism - courtesy of Bush et al - and of seeing American sons and daughters maimed and killed in a bullshit war.
  • ThumbingMyWay32
    ThumbingMyWay32 Posts: 1,224
    Byrnzie wrote:
    It was people like you, who voted for Bush, who can claim a share of the responsibility for all the dead and maimed American troops in Iraq in the last 4 years. Well done!
    Anyone who cares about their fellow Americans, and who voted for Bush, should feel ashamed and angry.
    Obviously, though, some people care more about the bank balances of the rich and powerful in America than they do about the increased threat of terrorism - courtesy of Bush et al - and of seeing American sons and daughters maimed and killed in a bullshit war.

    That's the most moronic thing I've ever heard Byrnzie.

    You're a legend around here though. Don't let any ol' perception of people like me stop ya from speaking. I'm far less critical of your freedoms I'm afraid. It was either Bush lying about WMDs or Gore lying about global warming, huh? Of course we gave Saddam WMDs..... Who knows what Al's talking about.....

    So lets see... Everyone who voted for FDR was partly responsible for every WW2 death. Everyone who voted for Eisenhower , Kennedy and Nixon are responsible for deaths in Vietnam. Lets see... Everyone who voted for Clinton is responsible for the deaths in Somalia.

    Of course, that would make everyone who voted for Clinton responsible for the obscene profits Ridley Scott earned from directing Black Hawk Down. For that matter, Hollywood has profited from war so much its ludicrous. Who's up for the Vast Hollywood Conspiracy? Saving Private Ryan grossed $482 million dollars world-wide. All that money made re-enacting the tragic events that occurred on the beaches of Normandy.... We should all write or local director.

    Jesus, being liberal is a piece of cake. But you knew that...
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:
    That's the most moronic thing I've ever heard Byrnzie.

    You're a legend around here though. Don't let any ol' perception of people like me stop ya from speaking. I'm far less critical of your freedoms I'm afraid. It was either Bush lying about WMDs or Gore lying about global warming, huh? Of course we gave Saddam WMDs..... Who knows what Al's talking about.....

    So lets see... Everyone who voted for FDR was partly responsible for every WW2 death. Everyone who voted for Eisenhower , Kennedy and Nixon are responsible for deaths in Vietnam. Lets see... Everyone who voted for Clinton is responsible for the deaths in Somalia.

    Of course, that would make everyone who voted for Clinton responsible for the obscene profits Ridley Scott earned from directing Black Hawk Down. For that matter, Hollywood has profited from war so much its ludicrous. Who's up for the Vast Hollywood Conspiracy? Saving Private Ryan grossed $482 million dollars world-wide. All that money made re-enacting the tragic events that occurred on the beaches of Normandy.... We should all write or local director.

    Jesus, being liberal is a piece of cake. But you knew that...

    who did you vote for in 2004?
  • moeaholic
    moeaholic Posts: 535
    Byrnzie wrote:
    It was people like you, who voted for Bush, who can claim a share of the responsibility for all the dead and maimed American troops in Iraq in the last 4 years. Well done!

    i really take offense to that statement. why don't you go around pointing fingers at and laying blame on the democrats for not garnering enough people to vote for them?

    i try to shake my head at some of the things said around here, but this one really gets under my skin. if the roles were reversed, i'd never tell someone they've got blood on their hands because of who they voted for. that's just childish.
    "PC Load Letter?! What the fuck does that mean?"
    ~Michael Bolton
  • ThumbingMyWay32
    ThumbingMyWay32 Posts: 1,224
    my2hands wrote:
    who did you vote for in 2004?


    Don't worry my2hands... I share responsibility for the post-war deaths as well.

    What's your point?

    I'm more than open to the idea of you attempting to place as much guilt as possible on me. Please, have at it noble poster.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:
    That's the most moronic thing I've ever heard Byrnzie.

    I don't like to do things by halves! ;)
  • ThumbingMyWay32
    ThumbingMyWay32 Posts: 1,224
    Byrnzie wrote:
    I don't like to do things by halves! ;)

    I liked my post too..

    :) <-- Happy face!
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    moeaholic wrote:
    i really take offense to that statement. why don't you go around pointing fingers at and laying blame on the democrats for not garnering enough people to vote for them?

    i try to shake my head at some of the things said around here, but this one really gets under my skin. if the roles were reversed, i'd never tell someone they've got blood on their hands because of who they voted for. that's just childish.

    O.k, maybe my comment was a bit of a stretcher. But when I watch that video link and then hear someone profess to being proud of voting for Bush, weird connections start happening in my brain. Don't blame me, blame my synapses. ;)

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