VIDEO: The McCain-Palin mob in Strongsville, Ohio

JSBE

saveuplife wrote:

First, I do not condone anything done or said in the video. That said, my point was about people here... in this place... calling people stupid ect. IMHO your stooping to the level you were just criticizing people for. It doesn't make sense.

really? someone on this board calling a mccain/palin rally attendee that yells out "terrorist" or "kill him" or "osama obama" stupid is the same as actually yelling out those things? ok. just wanted to make sure.

saveuplife

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JSBE

jimed14 wrote:

it'll be intersting to see if someone, anyone in the media asks McCain about the people asking questions at his town hall ..

some guy yesterday got up and asked, essentially, why McCain's losing to a socialist ... kind of a funny question when you take a read of McCain's government buy back plan of mortgages ... letting banks off the hook and making the American taxpayers take the loss ...

yeah, i started a thread about all the mccain/palin rally attendees getting mad that mccain's not doing more and that one guy said he was mad, not about the economy, but about the socialists that are ahead in the polls.

i think it was on countdown or maybe rachel maddow, but one of the guests did say that people have reached out to the mccain/palin camp and "we didn't hear it" is the stock answer they are getting.

saveuplife

digster wrote:

What responses do you think you'd find at an Obama rally about McCain would be equally reprehensible? And you think they'd be equally prominent? And if such terrible things are being said, why are they not on the TV? In the blogs? Etc...is it just the Liberal Media rearing it's head yet again?

I think you'd find similar things. I just don't think you'd find a conservative going up to people interviewing them. That's all.

My basic point is simple, there are smart people on both sides of the aisle. Their are not smart people on both sides of the aisle. There are fair-minded people on both sides of the aisle. There are also non fair-minded people on both sides of the aisle. There are extremists and non-extremists on both sides. If you search hard enough you can make a case for both.

If I understand you correctly, you are saying that it's only on one side? If that's the case, I think that is complete B.S. and shows an obvious lack of objectivity.

jimed14

JSBE wrote:

yeah, i started a thread about all the mccain/palin rally attendees getting mad that mccain's not doing more and that one guy said he was mad, not about the economy, but about the socialists that are ahead in the polls.

i think it was on countdown or maybe rachel maddow, but one of the guests did say that people have reached out to the mccain/palin camp and "we didn't hear it" is the stock answer they are getting.

Well McCain heard this gentleman call Obama a socialist, it was a TOWN HALL question yesterday ... the McCain suporters really need to check out their guy's plan on the buyback.

inmytree

saveuplife wrote:

The one I really directed this comment at, has since edited their original response.

That said, the OP's first comments were:

****this video sheds some light on the intellect of McPalin supporters....

****here's another example of typical mchate supporters...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itEuc...sandliars.com/

-you may disagree, but I would call both of those statements a large-scale generalization at best.

yup....

I said these things, and stand by them...

just watch the videos....they were created in two different areas of the country, yet they show the same thing...hate and ignorance....

if you think my comments are the same as the comments on the videos, that's up to you....I would hope you could see a difference, but if you don't that's fine with me...

saveuplife

inmytree wrote:

yup....

I said these things, and stand by them...

just watch the videos....they were created in two different areas of the country, yet they show the same thing...hate and ignorance....

if you think my comments are the same as the comments on the videos, that's up to you....I would hope you could see a difference, but if you don't that's fine with me...

You could read my comments on here. I am also a "TYPICAL" McCain supporter. I hope you wouldn't call me hateful, ignorant and stupid.

jimed14

saveuplife wrote:

I think you'd find similar things. I just don't think you'd find a conservative going up to people interviewing them. That's all.

My basic point is simple, there are smart people on both sides of the aisle. Their are not smart people on both sides of the aisle. There are fair-minded people on both sides of the aisle. There are also non fair-minded people on both sides of the aisle. There are extremists and non-extremists on both sides. If you search hard enough you can make a case for both.

If I understand you correctly, you are saying that it's only on one side? If that's the case, I think that is complete B.S. and shows an obvious lack of objectivity.

while I agree with this, that both sides have their warts ... the McCain campaign is FEEDING this hate, openly and often ...

Did you see McCains reaction when someone yell out "Terrorist" the other day? It was CLEAR, he heard it ...

Look at the 13 second mark when McCain asks "Who is the real Barack Obama?" and the guy in the crowd yells "terrorist!" ... McCain herad it clear as day ... and yet, he then goes on to chastise Obama for only replying with an "angry barage of insults" ... such overt hypocracy.

This is why people are pointing at the McCain campaign ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVFWahLTdUo

Gonzo1977

So any McCain supporter here want to jump on board here and provide any details of any Barack Obama rally where his supporters have uttered anything as hateful, racist, and ignorant as 2 video's shown on here?

callen

Brain of J.Lo wrote:

It's scary to think of how volatile they will be after Obama wins.

It's only going to get uglier. Maybe the ignorant racists will riot.

Short term maybe...but in the long term it will be harder and harder for ignorant white crackers to convince people to hate.

DixieN

Palin is a demagogue. Plain and simple. When you look at her whipping up her crowd, it's not too far a cry from what other far more famous demagogues have managed to do. Palin and McCain are all about division because they can add two and two together, nor can they multiply anything. They are scary and a blot on the US.

Brain of J.Lo

callen wrote:

Short term maybe...but in the long term it will be harder and harder for ignorant white crackers to convince people to hate.

I think so too, and hope so.

JOEJOEJOE

That blonde woman's voice is very annoying!

inmytree

saveuplife wrote:

You could read my comments on here. I am also a "TYPICAL" McCain supporter. I hope you wouldn't call me hateful, ignorant and stupid.

point taken....

I guess I could argue that you are a atypical McCain supporter because you are willing to address issues in a respectful manner...

regardless, I understand your point....

Gonzo1977

saveuplife wrote:

You could read my comments on here. I am also a "TYPICAL" McCain supporter. I hope you wouldn't call me hateful, ignorant and stupid.

Unless you were on those 2 clips making those idiotic comments...then nobody could call you hateful, ignorant and stupid.

Misguided on your choice of candidate maybe

digster

saveuplife wrote:

I think you'd find similar things. I just don't think you'd find a conservative going up to people interviewing them. That's all.

My basic point is simple, there are smart people on both sides of the aisle. Their are not smart people on both sides of the aisle. There are fair-minded people on both sides of the aisle. There are also non fair-minded people on both sides of the aisle. There are extremists and non-extremists on both sides. If you search hard enough you can make a case for both.

If I understand you correctly, you are saying that it's only on one side? If that's the case, I think that is complete B.S. and shows an obvious lack of objectivity.

I consider myself objective in my viewpoints, politics and thoughts. What exact similar things are we talking about? And again, why is it not being reported? I'm objective and more than willing to call Republicans in the right on issues and tactics I agree with them on, but if someone says 2+2=4 and someone else says 2+2=5, I'm not going to say they're both valid to keep seeming 'objective.' I haven't seen this type of behavior at Obama rallies, both in person and in the media, and my imagination is failing me, for I cannot think of what specific insults would be lobbed McCain's way that would be equal in offensiveness and vitriol to these insults. "Four more years of Bush?" That's pretty tame. So, no, I don't think it's equal, and the proof seems to be on my side. If you consider such an opinion partisan or close-minded, then you're welcome to that opinion.

g under p

OK any Obama supporters views on McCain and Palin.....negative or positive Do they have racist views?

Peace

Thecure

i don't believe we can blame mcCain for what people say. just as much as i don't believe we shoudl punish Obama for what his rev. said. McCain did refuse the endorsment with that guy who keep saying "Hussian" got alot of flake for it too.

Thecure

digster wrote:

I consider myself objective in my viewpoints, politics and thoughts. What exact similar things are we talking about? And again, why is it not being reported? I'm objective and more than willing to call Republicans in the right on issues and tactics I agree with them on, but if someone says 2+2=4 and someone else says 2+2=5, I'm not going to say they're both valid to keep seeming 'objective.' I haven't seen this type of behavior at Obama rallies, both in person and in the media, and my imagination is failing me, for I cannot think of what specific insults would be lobbed McCain's way that would be equal in offensiveness and vitriol to these insults. "Four more years of Bush?" That's pretty tame. So, no, I don't think it's equal, and the proof seems to be on my side. If you consider such an opinion partisan or close-minded, then you're welcome to that opinion.

i agree with you on this excellent post but i have seen soem Obama supporters talk alot abotu mcCain not being able to raise his arms which i think is very insulting as he was tortured in a war.

digster

Thecure wrote:

i agree with you on this excellent post but i have seen soem Obama supporters talk alot abotu mcCain not being able to raise his arms which i think is very insulting as he was tortured in a war.

That's a pretty insulting one, and if I saw a portion of Obama supporters in the crowd mocking his time as a prisoner of war (funny enough, I have seen it once or twice on this board, which is pretty disgusting). If that was as prominent in terms of frequency as these attacks, I'd be pretty irate with those Obama supporters, and I'd say they are equally morally bankrupt. Problem with that argument is, I just haven't seen it and it hasn't been documented. Until we see mass rage, phsycial and verbal abuse displayed at reporters covering a Palin event, racial epithets and calls of Obama being a Muslim/terrorist/socialist/terrorist sympathizer etc. I'm not going to say both sides are equal in the interest of fairness if both sides are clearly not equal.