Texas Crowd Kills Man After Car Hits Kid

IlovveePJ

Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:

The story or that I think that?

Humans.

Alex_Coe

IlovveePJ wrote:

It's really sad.

This scenario isn't enough to prove all humans are violent. Neither are individual murders or mob hits or wars.

It's incredibly easy to condemn all of humankind for the actions of a few, but it's impossible to prove that position. The only reason that you could arrive at that conclusion is by:

1) Analyzing all the bad events. I do it as much as anyone else because it's easy.

2) Ignoring all the good things. This one is easy because nobody cares about good deeds enough to call it news.

Vedderlution_Baby

surferdude wrote:

We all know that if this was an Easter Parade and the same thing happened I'd have to put up with all th ebullshit posts about how bad religion is and how what hypocrites they all are. Well here's a non-religious event and the outcome.

It's an event to celebrate the emancipation proclamation. not a gathering of atheists. I still don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

IlovveePJ

Alex_Coe wrote:

This scenario isn't enough to prove all humans are violent. Neither are individual murders or mob hits or wars.

It's incredibly easy to condemn all of humankind for the actions of a few, but it's impossible to prove that position. The only reason that you could arrive at that conclusion is by:

1) Analyzing all the bad events. I do it as much as anyone else because it's easy.

2) Ignoring all the good things. This one is easy because nobody cares about good deeds enough to call it news.

I know what you mean and I agree. I see that people (including myself) only look at the negative in life and not the positive events taking place. And the actions of a few cannot generalize humans. I'm just upset with the way some people chose to live their lives.

IndianSummer

inmytree wrote:

Texas Crowd Kills Man After Car Hits Kid

thats a frequennt occurance in two god forsaken states/provinces of india called Bihar and Uttar Pradesh.

happens regularly.

surferdude

Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:

It's an event to celebrate the emancipation proclamation. not a gathering of atheists. I still don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

That's right, the emancipation proclomation, a government event. Given the seperation of church and state it's an atheist event.

Vedderlution_Baby

surferdude wrote:

That's right, the emancipation proclomation, a government event. Given the seperation of church and state it's an atheist event.

Boy, you're really on it today aren't you?

surferdude

Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:

Boy, you're really on it today aren't you?

Just having a little fun poking the hornet's nest.

Vedderlution_Baby

surferdude wrote:

Just having a little fun poking the hornet's nest.

I know. I was talking about you being on a roll. I actually thought it was funny.

RainDog

surferdude wrote:

That's right, the emancipation proclomation, a government event. Given the seperation of church and state it's an atheist event.

O.K. So, I think I know where you're going here. Um. At what point did people on this board cheer the actions of the crowd? Shit, at what point did anyone take even an ambivalent attitude toward the crowd?

And who the fuck said the government was atheist?

Surf Life

RainDog wrote:

O.K. So, I think I know where you're going here. Um. At what point did people on this board cheer the actions of the crowd? Shit, at what point did anyone take even an ambivalent attitude toward the crowd?

And who the fuck said the government was atheist?

My thoughts too.
Beyond that, the odds given that it's Texas, is that the people who were the mob and sadly decided to kill are Christian.

PJ_Saluki

http://www.news10now.com/content/top_stories/default.asp?ArID=109361

http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/8083422.html

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=622207

http://cofcc.org/?p=287

http://cw2.trb.com/news/kwgn-denver-juneteenth,0,777317.story?coll=kwgn-home-2

http://www.wkbw.com/news/local/8036597.html

http://www.tucsonweekly.com/gbase/Arts/Content?oid=oid%3A45505

http://www.metnews.com/articles/affairs091603.htm

Violence at these celebrations is nothing new. The worst part is that one of the consistent themes of Juneteenth events is stopping violence in African-American communities.

Vedderlution_Baby

PJ_Saluki wrote:

http://www.news10now.com/content/top_stories/default.asp?ArID=109361

http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/8083422.html

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=622207

http://cofcc.org/?p=287

http://cw2.trb.com/news/kwgn-denver-juneteenth,0,777317.story?coll=kwgn-home-2

http://www.wkbw.com/news/local/8036597.html

http://www.tucsonweekly.com/gbase/Arts/Content?oid=oid%3A45505

http://www.metnews.com/articles/affairs091603.htm

Violence at these celebrations is nothing new. The worst part is that one of the consistent themes of Juneteenth events is stopping violence in African-American communities.

What the hell. Am I the only one who is completely confused by this?

PJ_Saluki

Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:

What the hell. Am I the only one who is completely confused by this?

Sorry for the confusion. This isn't a commentary on the specific incident. My point is that these events, whether b/c of distrust of police or shoddy risk management, have an undercurrent of violence in them. I think it's sad that a positive event that trumpets an end to black-on-black violence turns into something like we saw in Texas. But Texas isn't alone. Syracuse, Denver, Milwaukee and other cities have seen these festivals cut short by violence or the threat of violence. The fact that this was a mob action murder may align itself more towards previous mob violence in places such as Chicago where a crowd of onlookers killed a motorist for hitting a child but I still wonder how a celebration of freedom can turn into an excuse to riot. I feel for the kid but the passenger is the one who lost his life trying to stop the mob from taking "justice" into its own hands.

Vedderlution_Baby

PJ_Saluki wrote:

Sorry for the confusion. This isn't a commentary on the specific incident. My point is that these events, whether b/c of distrust of police or shoddy risk management, have an undercurrent of violence in them. I think it's sad that a positive event that trumpets an end to black-on-black violence turns into something like we saw in Texas. But Texas isn't alone. Syracuse, Denver, Milwaukee and other cities have seen these festivals cut short by violence or the threat of violence. The fact that this was a mob action murder may align itself more towards previous mob violence in places such as Chicago where a crowd of onlookers killed a motorist for hitting a child but I still wonder how a celebration of freedom can turn into an excuse to riot. I feel for the kid but the passenger is the one who lost his life trying to stop the mob from taking "justice" into its own hands.

No, I meant Im confused by an event that's supposed to celebrate freedom having an history of violence.

cincybearcat

know1 wrote:

All those death penalty supporters will be proud....

Yep, cause we all advocate the detah penalty for a passanger in a car that injures (not seriously I heard) anyone.

Please.

Cosmo

'Morales'.
...
He was probably here illegally.

even flow?

know1 wrote:

All those death penalty supporters will be proud....

As much as I can see where mob violence has a place in society. And the fact that I believe in the death penalty. Some how, some way, I don't think the driver of this car had any intention of killing this kid. Opposed to people who rape others, break into houses for the sole purpose of killing, etc. I think you may see the difference.

even flow?

surferdude wrote:

We all know that if this was an Easter Parade and the same thing happened I'd have to put up with all th ebullshit posts about how bad religion is and how what hypocrites they all are. Well here's a non-religious event and the outcome.

May as well use the old saying: You can take a mon....... You know the rest.

redrock

surferdude wrote:

Look at all the hatred when it's a government/atheist based celebration. Most of the worlds ills are due to governments/atheists. Does this murder count as a sacrifice made to the government and atheists??????

What?