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Texas Crowd Kills Man After Car Hits Kid

inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
edited June 2007 in A Moving Train
I don't understand this sort of behavior...it's sickening and sad...

http://www.wilmingtonstar.com/article/20070620/APA/706200736

Texas Crowd Kills Man After Car Hits Kid


The Associated Press
AUSTIN, Texas | A crowd attacked and killed a passenger in a vehicle that had struck and injured a child, police said Wednesday.

Police believe 2,000 to 3,000 people were in the area for a Juneteenth celebration when the attack occurred Tuesday night. The man who was killed had been trying to stop the group from attacking the vehicle's driver when the crowd turned on him, authorities said.

The Austin Police Department identified the victim as David Rivas Morales, 40. The child was taken to a hospital with non-life threatening injuries.

Police spokeswoman Toni Chovonetz said she had no further information, including how many people were involved.

The driver was able to get away is cooperating with investigators, police said.

Juneteenth marks the day Gen. Gordon Granger arrived in Galveston in 1865 to share news of the Emancipation Proclamation, which freed slaves two years earlier on Jan. 1, 1863.
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  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    Sure we as humans are closer to a god then to an animal. Not!
    You've changed your place in this world!
  • PJGARDENPJGARDEN Posts: 1,484
    This is horrible. Makes me ashamed to be a human and a Texan.
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    Thats sickening.
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • Vedderlution_BabyVedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    This is just fucking ridiculous.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    even flow? wrote:
    Sure we as humans are closer to a god then to an animal. Not!

    ^ ^
  • surferdudesurferdude Posts: 2,057
    Look at all the hatred when it's a government/atheist based celebration. Most of the worlds ills are due to governments/atheists. Does this murder count as a sacrifice made to the government and atheists??????
    “One good thing about music,
    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
    ~ Bob Marley
  • Vedderlution_BabyVedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    Death Penalty for the whole crowd. A few of them are bound to be guilty so it'll even out in the end.
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    All those death penalty supporters will be proud....
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    surferdude wrote:
    Look at all the hatred when it's a government/atheist based celebration. Most of the worlds ills are due to governments/atheists. Does this murder count as a sacrifice made to the government and atheists??????
    What in the holy hell are you talking about?


    As for the crowd, I hope they're able to identify each and every "beater" and punish them accordingly. Oh, and the driver should probably be cited too. He did hit a kid after all.
  • Vedderlution_BabyVedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    surferdude wrote:
    Look at all the hatred when it's a government/atheist based celebration. Most of the worlds ills are due to governments/atheists. Does this murder count as a sacrifice made to the government and atheists??????



    what are you talking about?




    P.S. This is perfect example of why emotion should not be used when considering "justice". Whenever it involves a child people are going to immediately become blindly furious. They killed the passenger for fucks sake, not even the motherfucker driving the car!
  • Vedderlution_BabyVedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    RainDog wrote:
    What in the holy hell are you talking about?


    As for the crowd, I hope they're able to identify each and every "beater" and punish them accordingly. Oh, and the driver should probably be cited too. He did hit a kid after all.



    Well, they can't really prove he was going to leave until a group of people with death in their heads started to move on him.
  • IlovveePJIlovveePJ Posts: 145
    Wow.... horrible.... but I dont want yall to think this is how Texans are.
    Cincinnati. 6.24.06 Portland. 7.20.06 Gorge I. 7.22.06 London. 6.18.07
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  • Vedderlution_BabyVedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    IlovveePJ wrote:
    Wow.... horrible.... but I dont want yall to think this is how Texans are.


    I don't. I think this is how humans are.
  • surferdudesurferdude Posts: 2,057
    RainDog wrote:
    What in the holy hell are you talking about?
    We all know that if this was an Easter Parade and the same thing happened I'd have to put up with all th ebullshit posts about how bad religion is and how what hypocrites they all are. Well here's a non-religious event and the outcome.
    “One good thing about music,
    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
    ~ Bob Marley
  • Alex_CoeAlex_Coe Posts: 762
    Kind of a strange story, isn't it? That the crowd killed the passenger and not the driver? IMO it looks like this crowd let their emotions run amok. What a shame... on a personal level, at least.

    The worst part of this whole story, however, is the reaction of the posters in this thread. Somehow Vedderlution has the gall to ask for the death penalty. Strange, for sure. Vedderlution is condemning emotions run amok, yet he's guilty of it just as much as the attacker(s) in the crowd.

    "How dare they let their emotions run amok! They deserve to die!" I hope I'm not the only one who findss irony in that.
  • IlovveePJIlovveePJ Posts: 145
    Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:
    I don't. I think this is how humans are.
    It's really sad.
    Cincinnati. 6.24.06 Portland. 7.20.06 Gorge I. 7.22.06 London. 6.18.07
    Lollapalooza. 8.5.07 West Palm Beach. 6.11.08 Bonnaroo. 6.14.08
    Hartford. Mansfield.

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  • Vedderlution_BabyVedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    Alex_Coe wrote:
    Kind of a strange story, isn't it? That the crowd killed the passenger and not the driver? IMO it looks like this crowd let their emotions run amok. What a shame... on a personal level, at least.

    The worst part of this whole story, however, is the reaction of the posters in this thread. Somehow Vedderlution has the gall to ask for the death penalty. Strange, for sure. Vedderlution is condemning emotions run amok, yet he's guilty of it just as much as the attacker(s) in the crowd.

    "How dare they let their emotions run amok! They deserve to die!" I hope I'm not the only one who findss irony in that.


    My post was complete sarcasm. I am totally against the death penalty. It's my fault for refusing to use smilies. But trust me, I wish there was no death penalty at all.
  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    surferdude wrote:
    We all know that if this was an Easter Parade and the same thing happened I'd have to put up with all th ebullshit posts about how bad religion is and how what hypocrites they all are. Well here's a non-religious event and the outcome.
    Nope, sorry. Still don't know what you're talking about. Bad Religion's a kick ass band, though.
  • Vedderlution_BabyVedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    IlovveePJ wrote:
    It's really sad.


    The story or that I think that?
  • Gremmie95Gremmie95 Posts: 749
    nuckin futz man, nuckin futz
  • IlovveePJIlovveePJ Posts: 145
    Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:
    The story or that I think that?
    Humans.
    Cincinnati. 6.24.06 Portland. 7.20.06 Gorge I. 7.22.06 London. 6.18.07
    Lollapalooza. 8.5.07 West Palm Beach. 6.11.08 Bonnaroo. 6.14.08
    Hartford. Mansfield.

    www.myspace.com/lkatmeimsandrab
  • Alex_CoeAlex_Coe Posts: 762
    IlovveePJ wrote:
    It's really sad.


    This scenario isn't enough to prove all humans are violent. Neither are individual murders or mob hits or wars.

    It's incredibly easy to condemn all of humankind for the actions of a few, but it's impossible to prove that position. The only reason that you could arrive at that conclusion is by:

    1) Analyzing all the bad events. I do it as much as anyone else because it's easy.

    2) Ignoring all the good things. This one is easy because nobody cares about good deeds enough to call it news.
  • Vedderlution_BabyVedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    surferdude wrote:
    We all know that if this was an Easter Parade and the same thing happened I'd have to put up with all th ebullshit posts about how bad religion is and how what hypocrites they all are. Well here's a non-religious event and the outcome.




    It's an event to celebrate the emancipation proclamation. not a gathering of atheists. I still don't know what the fuck you are talking about.
  • IlovveePJIlovveePJ Posts: 145
    Alex_Coe wrote:
    This scenario isn't enough to prove all humans are violent. Neither are individual murders or mob hits or wars.

    It's incredibly easy to condemn all of humankind for the actions of a few, but it's impossible to prove that position. The only reason that you could arrive at that conclusion is by:

    1) Analyzing all the bad events. I do it as much as anyone else because it's easy.

    2) Ignoring all the good things. This one is easy because nobody cares about good deeds enough to call it news.

    I know what you mean and I agree. I see that people (including myself) only look at the negative in life and not the positive events taking place. And the actions of a few cannot generalize humans. I'm just upset with the way some people chose to live their lives.
    Cincinnati. 6.24.06 Portland. 7.20.06 Gorge I. 7.22.06 London. 6.18.07
    Lollapalooza. 8.5.07 West Palm Beach. 6.11.08 Bonnaroo. 6.14.08
    Hartford. Mansfield.

    www.myspace.com/lkatmeimsandrab
  • IndianSummerIndianSummer Posts: 854
    inmytree wrote:
    Texas Crowd Kills Man After Car Hits Kid

    thats a frequennt occurance in two god forsaken states/provinces of india called Bihar and Uttar Pradesh.

    happens regularly.
    I have faced it, A life wasted...

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    Come step inside my tears
    Swim the magic ocean,
    I've been crying all these years
  • surferdudesurferdude Posts: 2,057
    Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:
    It's an event to celebrate the emancipation proclamation. not a gathering of atheists. I still don't know what the fuck you are talking about.
    That's right, the emancipation proclomation, a government event. Given the seperation of church and state it's an atheist event.
    “One good thing about music,
    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
    ~ Bob Marley
  • Vedderlution_BabyVedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    surferdude wrote:
    That's right, the emancipation proclomation, a government event. Given the seperation of church and state it's an atheist event.


    Boy, you're really on it today aren't you?
  • surferdudesurferdude Posts: 2,057
    Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:
    Boy, you're really on it today aren't you?
    Just having a little fun poking the hornet's nest.
    “One good thing about music,
    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
    ~ Bob Marley
  • Vedderlution_BabyVedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    surferdude wrote:
    Just having a little fun poking the hornet's nest.



    I know. I was talking about you being on a roll. I actually thought it was funny.
  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    surferdude wrote:
    That's right, the emancipation proclomation, a government event. Given the seperation of church and state it's an atheist event.
    O.K. So, I think I know where you're going here. Um. At what point did people on this board cheer the actions of the crowd? Shit, at what point did anyone take even an ambivalent attitude toward the crowd?

    And who the fuck said the government was atheist?
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