Is it the right of the parent or the state?.......

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edited April 2007 in A Moving Train
http://www.cbc.ca/cp/Oddities/070403/K040323AU.html

Swedish couple fights for right to name their baby girl Metallica
Published: Tuesday, April 3, 2007 | 2:00 PM ET
Canadian Press
STOCKHOLM, Sweden (AP) - Metallica may work as a name for a heavy metal band, but a Swedish couple is struggling to convince authorities it's also suitable for a baby girl.

Sweden's tax agency rejected Michael and Karolina Tomaro's application to name their six-month-old daughter after the legendary rock band. "It suits her," Karolina Tomaro, 27, said Tuesday of the name. "She's decisive and she knows what she wants."

Although little Metallica has already been baptized, the Swedish National Tax Board refused to register the name, saying it was associated with both the rock group and the word "metal."

In Sweden, parents must get the names of their children approved by the tax authority, which is in charge of the population registry and issues personal identification numbers.

Tomaro, who has appealed the decision, said the official handling the case also called the name "ugly."

The couple was backed by the County Administrative Court in Goteborg, which ruled on March 13 that there was no reason to block the name. It also noted that there already is a woman in Sweden with Metallica as a middle name.

The tax agency appealed to a higher court, frustrating the family's foreign travel plans.

"We've had to cancel trips and can't get anywhere because we can't get her a passport without an approved name," Tomaro said.



© The Canadian Press, 2007
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  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    it's Just a name, when the kid grows up and does'nt like it, she can always change it to something a bit better, like "pearl jam".

    it all just seems like a waste of time. silly tax authority,
  • caifan82
    caifan82 Mexico City Posts: 321
    I'm so calling my daughter Iron Maiden.
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    It's a ridiculous name IMO, but so is Bertha. Why are people on a naming kick? Like Silence, Princess, Paris, etc.. I'm naming my son Midas Welby, he might as well be.

    My daddy left home when I was three
    And he didn't leave much to ma and me
    Just this old guitar and an empty bottle of booze.
    Now, I don't blame him cause he run and hid
    But the meanest thing that he ever did
    Was before he left, he went and named me "Sue."

    Well, he must o' thought that is quite a joke
    And it got a lot of laughs from a' lots of folk,
    It seems I had to fight my whole life through.
    Some gal would giggle and I'd get red
    And some guy'd laugh and I'd bust his head,
    I tell ya, life ain't easy for a boy named "Sue."
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  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    while it might be a copyright violation, I see no place for government intervention in the name.

    If you want to call your offspring Fuckhead Mcgraw, that's fine with me.
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  • puremagic
    puremagic Posts: 1,907
    Parent's should have the right, although, I bet there are plenty of "human" automobiles out there who wanted to ask their parents wtf were they thinking when they named you.
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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    i think the only possible solution to this dilemma is to take the baby away and then have the parents executed for gross stupidity and polluting the gene pool.
  • emily18
    emily18 Posts: 489
    it's a stupid name but people have named their kids stranger things.....
    i dont really think its the state's place to come in.
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    In Sweden, parents must get the names of their children approved by the tax authority, which is in charge of the population registry and issues personal identification numbers.

    This is so wrong.
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    It sounds like a logical extension of the nanny state to me. They bathe you, feed you, shelter you, care for your health. Why shouldn't they name you?
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    jeffbr wrote:
    It sounds like a logical extension of the nanny state to me. They bathe you, feed you, shelter you, care for your health. Why shouldn't they name you?
    The 'nanny state'? Never heard of it.
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    gue_barium wrote:
    The 'nanny state'? Never heard of it.

    It exists and is trying to cradle you in its arms. Beware.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    jeffbr wrote:
    It exists and is trying to cradle you in its arms. Beware.

    Lol. Okay. Is it kind of like 'Invasion of the Body Snatchers'? or more like "War of the Worlds'?
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  • Lesbelges
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    seven
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  • wolfbear
    wolfbear Posts: 3,965
    That's interesting. I didn't know there were places where you had to have names approved. I wonder what the reasoning is?
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  • Kann
    Kann Posts: 1,146
    wolfbear wrote:
    That's interesting. I didn't know there were places where you had to have names approved. I wonder what the reasoning is?

    Choosing an insulting name (such as calling your son "dickhead") can seriously damage your child's mental health (particularly when he'll go to school). It's a law designed to protect children from stupid and/or abusive parents. If you push the reasoning too far you get this kind of story where stupid names become illegal as well.
  • Hitch-Hiker
    Hitch-Hiker Posts: 2,873
    At least it's not as bad as Zappas kids.
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  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    puremagic wrote:
    Parent's should have the right, although, I bet there are plenty of "human" automobiles out there who wanted to ask their parents wtf were they thinking when they named you.

    Well.. the Mercedes was named after someone's daughter..... :D
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    Lesbelges wrote:
    seven
    I know a girl named Seven.. she's from India though and it's pronounced differently.

    I guess safeguards were put in place to avoid downright outrageous names. At one time, many years ago, in France and in Belgium, it had to be a name from the saints's calendar.... I know now it is different but I still think you can't put any old rubbish on a birth certificate.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    well you know, jonathon davies from Korn called his kid pirate.
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  • lucylespian
    lucylespian Posts: 2,403
    Laws to protect children from abuse or forced labour, and to gauruntee them basic rights to medical care and safety and shelter etc suggest that children really belong to society (as opposed to teh government), not to parents, at a level of principal, rather than detail.
    This name approval law is part of that process. I don't think it is that extreme. As far as I now, Scandinavian countires are a lot more socialised than Oz or UK or USA.
    I often run across kids with crazy names, and while I know the parents were looking for something "special" to show their individuality and creativity etc, I still wonder wehat teh fuck they were thinking.
    Life is tough enough without dragging a crazy moniker around after you. I doubt they reject many names anyway. Maybve they should have named her Skylar after Lars' ex-wife , now that's a pretty name !!
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