Is it the right of the parent or the state?.......

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  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    puremagic wrote:
    Parent's should have the right, although, I bet there are plenty of "human" automobiles out there who wanted to ask their parents wtf were they thinking when they named you.


    I have heard, "is that your first name?" more times then needed throughout life. So I can agree.

    Edit: But I don't think the state or government should step in unless you have a name like dickhead or the like.
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  • Kann
    Kann Posts: 1,146
    even flow? wrote:
    I have heard, "is that your first name?" more times then needed throughout life. So I can agree.

    Edit: But I don't think the state or government should step in unless you have a name like dickhead or the like.

    In some cases there is matter for debate. I remember here a few years ago a similar case had made lots of noise. Parents whose family name was Renault wanted to call their little girl Megane. Megane is a common french name but Renault Megane is a car brand (like parents named Nissan would name their little girl Primera). The state denied their choice and the case was held in front of a tribunal. The parents won in the end but the debates were harsh, what will that girl live through during her school years? How will that effect her?
  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    Kann wrote:
    In some cases there is matter for debate. I remember here a few years ago a similar case had made lots of noise. Parents whose family name was Renault wanted to call their little girl Megane. Megane is a common french name but Renault Megane is a car brand (like parents named Nissan would name their little girl Primera). The state denied their choice and the case was held in front of a tribunal. The parents won in the end but the debates were harsh, what will that girl live through during her school years? How will that effect her?


    All the guys may want to test drive with Megane Renault. ;)

    The parents, when naming a child have some weird ideas. What can we do.
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    when i was pregnant with my youngest the girls name i had picked out was willow frances. frances being my midddle name and that of my paternal great grandmother, whose name i actually share in entireity. my choice of willow was vetoed and so was my second choice, piper frances. my youngest daughter's name is zoe claire. which on my list of names came in at #5 or thereabouts.
    when my grand daughter was born last september my daughter called her piper frances. so at least i feel a little vindicated.
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  • floyd1975
    floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    I think the government should go one step further and issue licenses for child birth. They would then be able to decide who will be good parents and this law would be unnecessary.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    zstillings wrote:
    I think the government should go one step further and issue licenses for child birth. They would then be able to decide who will be good parents and this law would be unnecessary.

    i have long advocated neutering people who can't even finish high school or have abysmally low iq or watch american idol or... yes... like metallica.
  • floyd1975
    floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    soulsinging wrote:
    i have long advocated neutering people who can't even finish high school or have abysmally low iq or watch american idol or... yes... like metallica.

    You and I should be the judges on the new "Department of Birthing Rights." We could get paid to decide who should be able to breed.
  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    zstillings wrote:
    I think the government should go one step further and issue licenses for child birth. They would then be able to decide who will be good parents and this law would be unnecessary.


    I can't believe you think this way. As that is just whack.

    I can see if you are unable to support a family and you are spitting out kids or knocking every woman you cum across up and then disappearing with no support. Maybe have something done with those types of people. But to outright make a decision on somebody being able to start a family is pretty disturbing. Are they not already doing that by keeping people in a hole of debt and putting chemicals in the food sources? ;)

    Funny that the Bush's should not be having children as they are a scourge on society themselves. But I will be listening to them or any other head of a country on input on my future. Not fucking likely.
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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    zstillings wrote:
    You and I should be the judges on the new "Department of Birthing Rights." We could get paid to decide who should be able to breed.

    and for the hot women with really dumb husbands, we can cut "deals" that allow them to defy the odds and somehow magically give birth to genius children.
  • Galiana
    Galiana Posts: 554
    catefrances wrote:
    well you know, jonathon davies from Korn called his kid pirate.

    I saw that on one of those VH1 shows. It was called "Wacky Celebrity Baby Names." I don't remember most of the names of the parents of the kids, but the kids had names like Pilot Inspektor, Audio Science, Reign Beau (yes, that how it's spelled), Jermajesty (Jermaine Jackson's son). Then there's the R&B singer who named her son Denim. It was originally supposed to be spelled "Denham" after the Sidney Poitier character in the movie To Sir With Love, but she was afraid people would pronounce it "Den-ham" so she chose the phonetic spelling.

    Compared to all that, Metallica doesn't seem too bad.
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  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    even flow? wrote:
    http://www.cbc.ca/cp/Oddities/070403/K040323AU.html

    Swedish couple fights for right to name their baby girl Metallica
    Published: Tuesday, April 3, 2007 | 2:00 PM ET
    Canadian Press
    STOCKHOLM, Sweden (AP) - Metallica may work as a name for a heavy metal band, but a Swedish couple is struggling to convince authorities it's also suitable for a baby girl.

    Sweden's tax agency rejected Michael and Karolina Tomaro's application to name their six-month-old daughter after the legendary rock band. "It suits her," Karolina Tomaro, 27, said Tuesday of the name. "She's decisive and she knows what she wants."

    Although little Metallica has already been baptized, the Swedish National Tax Board refused to register the name, saying it was associated with both the rock group and the word "metal."

    In Sweden, parents must get the names of their children approved by the tax authority, which is in charge of the population registry and issues personal identification numbers.

    Tomaro, who has appealed the decision, said the official handling the case also called the name "ugly."

    The couple was backed by the County Administrative Court in Goteborg, which ruled on March 13 that there was no reason to block the name. It also noted that there already is a woman in Sweden with Metallica as a middle name.

    The tax agency appealed to a higher court, frustrating the family's foreign travel plans.

    "We've had to cancel trips and can't get anywhere because we can't get her a passport without an approved name," Tomaro said.



    © The Canadian Press, 2007
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    this wasn't mentioned but the band owns the name. the band has successfully sued others for copyright infringement and i wouldn't stop there. no one has the right to use the name without the bands permission.
  • small town beck
    small town beck Posts: 6,691
    I once read a birth announcement for a Heaven Lea :eek:, jebus that is probably worse than Metallica. Seriously some people just give their children shitty names. That said I feel conflicted as it should be the parents' choice and the state really shouldn't have to step in to tell you what you can and cannot call your child but in this case I have to almost agree with the state. It just seems like common sense(not to mention good taste) not to give your child a fucked up name... I guess I shouldn't be surprised by this I mean people actually buy Danielle Steel books and enjoy them so :p how much common sense and good taste is really out there? :confused:;)
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    soulsinging wrote:
    i have long advocated neutering people who can't even finish high school or have abysmally low iq or watch american idol or... yes... like metallica.

    i didn't finish high school.
    hear my name
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    hold my hand
    lie beside me
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  • small town beck
    small town beck Posts: 6,691
    catefrances wrote:
    i didn't finish high school.

    Neither did Eddie Vedder right? I mean eventually but you know what I mean. One cannot always equate intelligence with education. Or for that matter wisdom and intelligence. Just my two coppers :)
  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    soulsinging wrote:
    i have long advocated neutering people who can't even finish high school or have abysmally low iq or watch american idol or... yes... like metallica.


    I didn't finish high school.

    You think I should be neutered? :p
    NOPE!!!

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  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    catefrances wrote:
    i didn't finish high school.

    Oh my!!! JINX!!!! :D

    Again!! ;)
    NOPE!!!

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  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    soulsinging wrote:
    and for the hot women with really dumb husbands, we can cut "deals" that allow them to defy the odds and somehow magically give birth to genius children.


    :D hehe!! I can almost picture you rubbing your hands together ss!!! :D
    NOPE!!!

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  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    So anyway, back to the question.

    This is not something for the state to decide.

    You birth it, you name it.

    If the kid doesn't like it they can change it later.

    I mean hell, half of us didn't ask to be here! Are we gonna start suing parents retrospectively for our very existence?

    And as there's no way parents can protect their kids against all possibilities when it comes to schoolyard taunts they may as well go ahead and call a kid what they want. I'm sure that if bullies couldn't work with your name, they'd find something else to use against you.
    NOPE!!!

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  • iamsampj
    iamsampj Posts: 784
    there is a lady in the town where my parents live who thought that the hospital had already named her newborn baby girl. she saw that her baby had a wristband on that said "female" (for the baby's sex)...the mother mistook that as the hospital going ahead and naming her child. the mom stuck w/ that..and the child's name is "female"...pronounced like "tamale" (the mexican food dish) !!! poor kid has to at least be in middle school at this point...this is totally why i only go back to visit when i absolutely have to.
    yes...i do feel like a human. i do not feel like a tree.
  • Kann
    Kann Posts: 1,146
    Jeanie wrote:
    I mean hell, half of us didn't ask to be here!
    I'd really love to meet the other half!
    On subject, don't you think it can be extremely damaging to call your kid, "Penis"? I know there are a lot of ways to fuck a kid up but this one is kind of straightforward.

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