Libby Sentence Commuted

gimmesometruth27

blackredyellow wrote:

I am actually surprised that they didn't wait until tomorrow to take out the trash with this one... They have given the news media almost a whole 24 hour news cycle to make noise about this. I just figured that they would have announced it tomorrow at like dinner time.

that is what i was getting at in my original post. what did they wait, like only a few hours after it was decided that libby had to report to prison?

i think that releasing the name of a covert agent is not only against the law, but it is treason of the highest order. anyone that had anything to do with it should be locked up with no chance of parole, even if they only obstructed justice as libby has done. it is a sad day in this country when people like padilla are held in our secret prisons for 5 years without being charged with a crime and the guilty serve no time at all.

hailhailkc

This type of tomfoolery was employed by Clinton too, it's not like this option is something new to Bush and Co. It's the system that's screwing us over…it's the system that needs overhauling…

Abookamongstthemany

hailhailkc wrote:

This type of tomfoolery was employed by Clinton too, it's not like this option is something new to Bush and Co. It's the system that's screwing us over…it's the system that needs overhauling…

So? Is Clinton president now? Why must people always live in the past? If something is wrong... it is always wrong...no matter how many times it may have happened in the past.

It makes much more sense to live in the present tense.

gue_barium

hailhailkc wrote:

This type of tomfoolery was employed by Clinton too, it's not like this option is something new to Bush and Co. It's the system that's screwing us over…it's the system that needs overhauling…

Lying about one's personal life is one thing. It is. It's nobody's business but your own. Ask me and Sponger.

Lying that involves national security is something else altogether. Surely, a Royals fan can see this.

gue_barium

hailhailkc wrote:

This type of tomfoolery was employed by Clinton too, it's not like this option is something new to Bush and Co. It's the system that's screwing us over…it's the system that needs overhauling…

But, you are correct in the overview.

Crazy times.

Bu2

because she's counting on her one and only "greatest weapon, biggest gun", to help her take the White House back....and that's the man she put in there years ago.

Here's a snapshot of the reaction to the news of Libby's big break tonight:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070703/ap_on_go_pr_wh/cia_leak_quotes_2

There are many great quotes in here, and there are a lot of typical Republican statements (um, no offense, Repubs), but I got a kick out of Hillary's response.....she dare speaks of cronyism, as if she herself and Bill are not just as guilty of it.

Cute.

Rushlimbo

hailhailkc wrote:

This type of tomfoolery was employed by Clinton too, it's not like this option is something new to Bush and Co. It's the system that's screwing us over…it's the system that needs overhauling…

Doesnt happen often but I agree with you.

Abookamongstthemany

Bu2 wrote:

because she's counting on her one and only "greatest weapon, biggest gun", to help her take the White House back....and that's the man she put in there years ago.

Here's a snapshot of the reaction to the news of Libby's big break tonight:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070703/ap_on_go_pr_wh/cia_leak_quotes_2

There are many great quotes in here, and there are a lot of typical Republican statements (um, no offense, Repubs), but I got a kick out of Hillary's response.....she dare speaks of cronyism, as if she herself and Bill are not just as guilty of it.

Cute.

Hilary makes me cringe.

norm

hailhailkc wrote:

This type of tomfoolery was employed by Clinton too, it's not like this option is something new to Bush and Co. It's the system that's screwing us over…it's the system that needs overhauling…

i've been saying this for quite awhile now and much more frequently - "i never thought i'd see a president and administration more arrogant then clinton's" wtg georgie.....you're no. 1!!!!!! :rolleyes: :(

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

Hilary makes me cringe.

you said it, sister......;)

gimmesometruth27

i mean most of the time these pardons or shortening of sentences occur as one of the president's last deeds in office. in this case, when it was ruled that scooter was denied bail this afternoon bush pulled the trigger a few hours later. it seems to me that it was a forgone conclusion that scooter was not to be allowed to do any time at all. at least from what i remember from that time, some of those clinton commuted/pardoned actually did serve some time.

Bu2

and correct me if I'm wrong:

We have an overwhelming number of US citizens who are opposed to the war in Iraq and are fed up with the way that Bush is handling things.

We have an underwhelming lineup of Republican candidate offerings.

We have two Democratic frontrunners (Gore not included because, let's face it folks, he hasn't announced yet) and they are raking in millions so far this year in contributions to their campaigns.

One is Hillary Rodham Clinton, the other is Barack Hussein Obama.

Hillary is a known enemy...oops, entity. We know her. She was our First Lady for two terms. She was the woman who helped put her husband where they both felt he should be. She was the woman who worked with extreme efficiency in making sure they both STAYED where they both felt they should be, regardless of Whitewater, Travelgate, Vince Foster, Gennifler Flowers or whatever the hell her name was, Monica and the blue "cock tale" dress, et.al.

Hillary is a known entity. Whether she likes it or not.

She can try to run on what she thinks we all remember as the good times, but it ain't gonna work in the long run, because too many Republicans and Independents remember what hell we went through when she and Bill were in power. She can try to say she's the First Black Lady when she's in front of an audience of African Americans, and she can try to say she's the answer to every Latino woman's problems, and she can try to say that she didn't have something to do with NAFTA and all the problems it has brought us since she encouraged Bill to sign it into effect, and she can try to make us forget that she was a board member of Wal*Mart and she can try everything else under the sun....

But she can't equal the energy Barack Obama's campaign has right now. And she can't equal the number of individual donors, like me, who keep giving little donations every now and then because we know that cronyism and poll-studying can only get you so far, and being real is the only way to win over an America so discouraged and disgusted that it's almost willing to wage Congressional war on its own President and Vice President just to get our point across.

What Bush did today is disgusting. What he does every day, in my opinion, is contemptible.

Putting Billary in the White House today will not fix that.

Show me an Independent or Republican who can stand up to Barack or Hillary, and I'll eat all my words next year.

It's coming down to a choice between the two of them, and no one else. Even the Independents are starting to back Obama.

Are you next?

Abookamongstthemany

Bu2 wrote:

and correct me if I'm wrong:

We have an overwhelming number of US citizens who are opposed to the war in Iraq and are fed up with the way that Bush is handling things.

We have an underwhelming lineup of Republican candidate offerings.

We have two Democratic frontrunners (Gore not included because, let's face it folks, he hasn't announced yet) and they are raking in millions so far this year in contributions to their campaigns.

One is Hillary Rodham Clinton, the other is Barack Hussein Obama.

Hillary is a known enemy...oops, entity. We know her. She was our First Lady for two terms. She was the woman who helped put her husband where they both felt he should be. She was the woman who worked with extreme efficiency in making sure they both STAYED where they both felt they should be, regardless of Whitewater, Travelgate, Vince Foster, Gennifler Flowers or whatever the hell her name was, Monica and the blue "cock tale" dress, et.al.

Hillary is a known entity. Whether she likes it or not.

She can try to run on what she thinks we all remember as the good times, but it ain't gonna work in the long run, because too many Republicans and Independents remember what hell we went through when she and Bill were in power. She can try to say she's the First Black Lady when she's in front of an audience of African Americans, and she can try to say she's the answer to every Latino woman's problems, and she can try to say that she didn't have something to do with NAFTA and all the problems it has brought us since she encouraged Bill to sign it into effect, and she can try to make us forget that she was a board member of Wal*Mart and she can try everything else under the sun....

But she can't equal the energy Barack Obama's campaign has right now. And she can't equal the number of individual donors, like me, who keep giving little donations every now and then because we know that cronyism and poll-studying can only get you so far, and being real is the only way to win over an America so discouraged and disgusted that it's almost willing to wage Congressional war on its own President and Vice President just to get our point across.

What Bush did today is disgusting. What he does every day, in my opinion, is contemptible.

Putting Billary in the White House today will not fix that.

Show me an Independent or Republican who can stand up to Barack or Hillary, and I'll eat all my words next year.

It's coming down to a choice between the two of them, and no one else. Even the Independents are starting to back Obama.

Are you next?

no

Bu2

But there are others who are. They might not reside here in the Pit, but there are others who are.

Abookamongstthemany

Bu2 wrote:

But there are others who are. They might not reside here in the Pit, but there are others who are.

I know, sweetie. Everyone picks their own path.

Bu2

*to a book*

Peace.

Meantime, what do we do about this whole Libby thing?

Abookamongstthemany

Bu2 wrote:

*to a book*

Peace.

Meantime, what do we do about this whole Libby thing?

*catches kiss, floats one back over to Bu*

shucks

I don't know what we can do about the Libby thing.

Bu2

on the label label label
you can hope that Bush impeachment's
on the table table table...."

Remember that commercial?

norm

Bu2 wrote:

on the label label label
you can hope that Bush impeachment's
on the table table table...."

Remember that commercial?

boy do i.....:D......since this whole thing started i hear it ever time i hear his name....;)

mammasan

hailhailkc wrote:

This type of tomfoolery was employed by Clinton too, it's not like this option is something new to Bush and Co. It's the system that's screwing us over…it's the system that needs overhauling…

Very true. This is not just a Bush administration issue this is an issue with our government in general. Our elected officials truely believe that they are about the law and can act and do as they please because the power given to them and the ignorance of the public allows it.

This truely does sicken me thoughg. Our government is corrupt to it's very core. We, the people, no longer hold the reigns and something must be done about it. I know I sound like a broken record and some may be sick of seeing me type the same shit over and over again but it is the truth. Thomas Jefferson said it himself that when governments, including the one he help found, no longer rule according to the people it is time to replace it. The time is now.

NYbenben

This is the biggest crock of shit injustice that has ever been pulled by a president...

1-20-2009... Cant wait...