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  • beachdwellerbeachdweller Posts: 1,532
    Eh. You're biased. Nobody's "winning" this snoozefest.

    It's been half an hour of: "John McCain voted for this." "No, he didn't, but Barack Obama voted for this." "No, he didn't, but John McCain did vote for that."

    He said, she said.

    I need a fact-checker to follow this damn thing.

    Given Biden's track record of pulling shit out of his ass .... I don't trust him.

    McCain uses shading math on voting records, I like that Biden turned some of that back on them.

    Yes, I agree, following up at politifact.org or other site is needed.

    From what I know, Biden is winning on the info, the way Palin is stating some issues, it's wide open, and keeps her from actually stating the McCain position, which may not go over well.
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  • beachdwellerbeachdweller Posts: 1,532
    Building a pipeline? It hasn't even been finalized yet.

    Palin- "Umm...I'm not going to answer the question the way the Senator and the Moderator would like."

    Ballsy.

    great way to say I don't know. She didn't answer the question at all.
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  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    CROJAM95 wrote:
    When you've been in public life as long as him, you'll have some slip ups. All around I think he's a decent guy. He's known not to hangout with Washington elite's at their wine and cheese parties, that probably turn into orgies :D

    The freakin' guy embellished the story of his wife dying in a car accident ... who DOES that?

    Not to mention, making up being shot at in Afghanistan ... wtf is that?
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  • beachdwellerbeachdweller Posts: 1,532
    "clearly man made" my dick, you fuckhole.

    "We know what the cause is. The cause is manmade."
    That's not a cause you dipshit. That's bad grammar.

    What about the clear correlations between temperature and solar activity?


    You will NEVER hear me deny the massive negative impacts man has on his environment.
    But the relationship between the global temperature and mans activities is VERY SPECULATIVE.

    And CERTAINLY NOT WORTH A CRIMINAL CARBON TAX ! ! !

    bad grammer works best with republicans :)
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  • CROJAM95CROJAM95 Posts: 9,984
    The freakin' guy embellished the story of his wife dying in a car accident ... who DOES that?

    Not to mention, making up being shot at in Afghanistan ... wtf is that?


    Actually Kosovo


    The wife thing I was not aware of. If your lookin not to like someone, you will always find something

    Didn't Kerry get shit for flip flopping? McCain is the ultimate flip flopper, Bush's lapdog. He was a badass opposing Bush in 2000, he is no longer a MAVERICK, STOP USING THAT PHRASE
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    "clearly man made" my dick, you fuckhole.

    "We know what the cause is. The cause is manmade."
    That's not a cause you dipshit. That's bad grammar.

    What about the clear correlations between temperature and solar activity?


    You will NEVER hear me deny the massive negative impacts man has on his environment.
    But the relationship between the global temperature and mans activities is VERY SPECULATIVE.

    And CERTAINLY NOT WORTH A CRIMINAL CARBON TAX ! ! !

    Point was there are a large group of religious Palin backin Republicans that lie to themselves daily that humans have any negative affect on Gods planet...he told them to shove it with this statement...you are correct and he knows it...
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  • beachdwellerbeachdweller Posts: 1,532
    hold up, she just said we are at pre surge numbers in iraq now, which is a lie, we are at 150k, wasn't pre surge less than 130k?

    the whole voted against funding the troops is a bullshit line, glad Joe called her out on that, McCain did the same thing by his own fuzzy math.

    now with the surrender bullshit, the iraq government already said we leave at the end of 2011
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  • CROJAM95CROJAM95 Posts: 9,984
    THATS ANOTHER STORY, I lost my woody :D
  • beachdwellerbeachdweller Posts: 1,532
    she's still skipping the question, still spinning, no substance, love how she starts praising Biden, to avoid providing any substance.
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  • CitizenRickCitizenRick Posts: 1,079
    Eh. You're biased. Nobody's "winning" this snoozefest.

    It's been half an hour of: "John McCain voted for this." "No, he didn't, but Barack Obama voted for this." "No, he didn't, but John McCain did vote for that."

    He said, she said.

    I need a fact-checker to follow this damn thing.

    Given Biden's track record of pulling shit out of his ass .... I don't trust him to be truthful.

    Sure...I may be partison...I'll give you that...but this lady seems like she tries too hard to be "joe everyone".

    All she does is stumble and bumble her way through her answers. For the most part...she never truly answers the questions either.
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    bad grammer works best with republicans :)
    now thats funny....
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    she's still skipping the question, still spinning, no substance, love how she starts praising Biden, to avoid providing any substance.
    yea but she's saying what people wanting to vote republican...so this will be a victory for them. Biden is doing good job right now....talking about Pakistan...
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  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    CROJAM95 wrote:
    Actually Kosovo

    Kosovo was a figment of Hillary's imagination.

    Biden claimed to be in a helicopter forced down by Al Qaeda in Afghanistan.

    The wife thing I was not aware of. If your lookin not to like someone, you will always find something

    When he tells the story of his wife's death, he claims the other driver was drunk. He wasn't. Not at all. Why make that up? To make the story more tragic?

    How would you feel if you killed someone in an accident, and the husband went around telling the world you were drunk?

    Anyway ... I guess it's not a big deal, except it makes me doubt a lot of shit coming out of Biden's mouth. It's almost as if he's pathological.
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  • CROJAM95CROJAM95 Posts: 9,984
    Central war on terror in Iraq.....WROOOOOOONG
  • beachdwellerbeachdweller Posts: 1,532
    callen wrote:
    yea but she's saying what people wanting to vote republican...so this will be a victory for them. Biden is doing good job right now....talking about Pakistan...

    I don't think so, she'll be picked apart for not having the substance because she hasn't in the past 5 weeks, but we'll see.
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  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Sure...I may be partison...I'll give you that...but this lady seems like she tries too hard to be "joe everyone".

    All she does is stumble and bumble her way through her answers. For the most part...she never truly answers the questions either.

    Nobody ever really answers the questions. I don't even think they listen to them.

    Moderator should just say, "The topic is Iraq. Give me your talking points. Go."
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  • OH NO!!!!

    She says "NUKE-U-LAR" too!

    :eek: :eek: :eek:

    Ugh.
    And she talks to War Criminal Kissinger.
    What a piece of shit.

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  • She just went to the "they hate us for our freedom" card... good grief....
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  • "They hate our freedom."

    Hmmm...sounds familiar. Oh yeah Bush said that too.

    I thought she was a "maverick?"
    No longer overwhelmed it seems so simple now.
  • Moderator should just say, "The topic is Iraq. Give me your talking points. Go."


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  • stylo17stylo17 Posts: 1,001
    Sure...I may be partison...I'll give you that...but this lady seems like she tries too hard to be "joe everyone".

    All she does is stumble and bumble her way through her answers. For the most part...she never truly answers the questions either.

    I agree, especially with the common joe part. she also looks rather nervous, at least in her voice. doesn't sound consistently firm. was she just coached up for tonight?

    I do like how Biden is speaking though, for the most part. but he did avoid a couple of questions which seems pretty normal.

    btw, Gwen Ifill, who many people were raises questions as to how fair she would be, has done a very good job tonight.

    is anyone watching on CNN? what do you think about the "analyst scorecards" on the sides of the screen?
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  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Biden is lying about Obama and Ahmadinjad. He said in two different Democratic debates he would sit down with him without preconditions on a presidential level. Biden should know. He was there.
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  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    I really like how she is talking straight to me, the american people.

    I feel like she really knows what is best for me, and wants to give it to me.

    And i want her to give it to me!
    i think i just threw up a little in my mouth..

    ugh.

    dude, she's old. she is so not hot.
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    anybody know the score of the Cubs game? I'm about to flip the channel if there aren't more fireworks over here at debate central ...
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  • beachdwellerbeachdweller Posts: 1,532
    I don't think our freedom's are in anyone's Top Ten reasons for hating Americans or America. Such a stupid line, it was dumb on Sept 12th, 2001, and it's still an igorant line.
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  • CROJAM95CROJAM95 Posts: 9,984
    Kosovo was a figment of Hillary's imagination.

    Biden claimed to be in a helicopter forced down by Al Qaeda in Afghanistan.




    When he tells the story of his wife's death, he claims the other driver was drunk. He wasn't. Not at all. Why make that up? To make the story more tragic?

    How would you feel if you killed someone in an accident, and the husband went around telling the world you were drunk?

    Anyway ... I guess it's not a big deal, except it makes me doubt a lot of shit coming out of Biden's mouth. It's almost as if he's pathological.


    I remember the Hillary thing, I could have sworn it was Kosovo...I could be wrong

    Their all liars, McCain said a few years Iraq streets were as safe as an Indiana flee market. Yea when your surrounded by troops all around.I can go on forever, so can you

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  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    i think i just threw up a little in my mouth..

    ugh.

    dude, she's old. she is so not hot.
    I'd nail it..
  • Pj_Gurl wrote:
    i think i just threw up a little in my mouth..

    ugh.

    dude, she's old. she is so not hot.

    Uh i dunno.
    She's hotter than some 21 year olds i hang out with.

    And she comes off as a real "giver".
    I like givers!

    AND i really get off thinking about that Fargo-esque accent going "Ohh... Oh yeah. Right there. Oh yeah."
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  • Biden is lying about Obama and Ahmadinjad. He said in two different Democratic debates he would sit down with him without preconditions on a presidential level. Biden should know. He was there.

    I think he cut his sentence short before making the "preconditions" semantic dodge and moved on to the next point. He has to know that Obama has said that in the past.
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    I don't think so, she'll be picked apart for not having the substance because she hasn't in the past 5 weeks, but we'll see.
    Big mistake to look at this objectively.
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