They would not change from touring in late July to touring in June because a venue could not schedule it. I find it unlikely they would just say screw it and we will just play the east coast in June and forget about July. Something is brewing.
Rumors are one thing, but when thousands of people are being e-mailed by legitimate venues that are selling tickets based on the fact that Pearl Jam are purported to be playing in Dallas, that's another thing altogether.
10c are being punks about this, I am sorry to say. And they have been since 2006. You know damn well there will be more shows.
ok i agree it would be awesome for pj/10c to announce a 30 date tour and such.
to say they dont have any more "planned" may not be the best term. we all know they probably are planning more. pj has/is known as a TOURING band.
but...
the 10c cant say ok guys, they are hitting town XYZ without 100% things being in order. can u imagine the panic this place would have if they said they are going to town XYZ on a saturday night. by sunday morning loads of ten club members would have transportation, hotels, and plans confirmed. and then lets say that sunday afternoon that the 10c says, sorry guys town XYZ didnt happen. sorry. this place would be in an uproar.
the only thing i can add to this part, is i remember i was friends with a promoter and booker and organizers in a town i lived in. pj was coming. no doubt. they were planning for months. i got told because they knew how much i would enjoy it and how i can keep my mouth shut. anyway, pj was coming. just a few more details to work out. ok we are almost ready to announce it. just a few more kinks. ok any day now.... annyyyy day now.......anndddd...... well it fell through. the two sides couldnt agree. "this happens a lot" i got told. i found out more about the situation and it turns out is was the promoters fault more than anyone else's. and they turned out to be jerks about it. i was crushed but saw them in other towns. in other cities. but most of the times it can come down to a little disagreement. or in the case of multi city tours, they wont let a band play in arena in florida, because the kinks aren't worked out in pennsylvania and both are owned by a major corporation. (ie clearchannel.) so much goes into these tours, and until they are finalized in ink and notarized and payment and lots of other things, then the 10c cant say anything is "official" or "planned" 10c is doing there jobs in keeping us from all booking plane tix to all over the US and having to cancel them later.
i have heard the same rumors of texas dates. some of those were even in the last tour and we know those didnt happen.
all i can say again is.
go to acl fest. its always great. they book a variety of really good bands. its lots of fun. if you find out pj is playing. even better. if it turns out they will be in dallas that weekend. even better.
thanks for the info on dallas.
but please dont jump on 10c for doing what is not only thier job, but in the interest of most of the fans here.
I for one don't appreciate being lied to. I do appreciate that for marketing purposes you may not want to announce other shows in the south since the band is going to being playing the Austin City Limits Festival and other shows around that time (which will be announced in just a couple of weeks in mid-April), but to say that there are no additional shows being "planned" when those of us who know people who work with concert promoters who are most certainly "planning" shows for Pearl Jam to be playing other parts of the country, it is insulting to flat out lie to us and tell us that no additonal shows are being "planned" when discussions are most certainly ongoing for other shows. Instead of just saying things like this, couldn't you just say that there are no other shows "confirmed"? It'd make statements like this a little easier to take. Especially for those of us who know this is not the truth.
Amen
Live and let live
That's what I always say
Anyone who can't understand that should be killed
America has 90% of the lawyers in the world!! Superpages would have to be crazy to use a "pending" Pearl Jam concert, in Dallas, on September 25th to market their season ticket offer. They certainly could/would get nailed to the wall if it were just fraud and there was nothing to this possible concert. Of course, it could be that the concert falls through and it could be just a huge coincidence that Mike implied they were playing ACL (which happens to be running at the same time) but it is far from just a rumor.
Live and let live
That's what I always say
Anyone who can't understand that should be killed
Rumors are one thing, but when thousands of people are being e-mailed by legitimate venues that are selling tickets based on the fact that Pearl Jam are purported to be playing in Dallas, that's another thing altogether.
This is exactly what I was thinking while reading the thread.
There's definitely some "planning" going on.
See you at ACL.
San Antonio '03
Houston '03
Dallas '03
Hopefully more to come in TX.......some day.
Bonnaroo '08
I hope all of the Texas theories are right. However, this is what I am afraid is happening. Pearl Jam was considering ACL and decided againist it. They had arranged for shows in Texas around ACL and the Dallas venue published it. IN the meantime, Pearl Jam for whatever reason decided not to do ACL maybe because they want to record in the studio after the mini tour or maybe something else came up. So the plans for Texas were scrapped because it no longer made sense to have shows in Texas and nowhere else in the Summer. I am afraid this is what went down.
I hope all of the Texas theories are right. However, this is what I am afraid is happening. Pearl Jam was considering ACL and decided againist it. They had arranged for shows in Texas around ACL and the Dallas venue published it. IN the meantime, Pearl Jam for whatever reason decided not to do ACL maybe because they want to record in the studio after the mini tour or maybe something else came up. So the plans for Texas were scrapped because it no longer made sense to have shows in Texas and nowhere else in the Summer. I am afraid this is what went down.
I think it is highly unlikely that they would play large shows (arena/amphitheater) so close to a festival in terms of distance and timing. notice how they are not playing anywhere near Tennessee and also didnt play near Chicago last year. a festival would not sign a band as the headliner without making sure that the band wont also be playing their own shows near by.
I hope another leg happens, but I dont see how ACL and other Texas shows could co-exist. Someone said ACL relases its lineup in 3 weeks or so, so we should know soon.
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"In your case, I'll check my brain at the door and we'll start even, okay?"
I think it is highly unlikely that they would play large shows (arena/amphitheater) so close to a festival in terms of distance and timing. notice how they are not playing anywhere near Tennessee and also didnt play near Chicago last year. a festival would not sign a band as the headliner without making sure that the band wont also be playing their own shows near by.
I hope another leg happens, but I dont see how ACL and other Texas shows could co-exist. Someone said ACL relases its lineup in 3 weeks or so, so we should know soon.
Wha? That makes no sense. Actually, the exact opposite is true, most touring bands play festivals in the middle of their tours, it's much easier than loading up all the equipment for one show. If festivals only signed bands who weren't playing other shows, they would be severely limiting themselves.
Last year, Bob Dylan headlined and he played at Stubbs the night before. Tom Petty, who headlined the year before, was in the middle of his 30th Anniversary tour and played a show two days before and two days after ACL Fest. Coldplay the year before had just played Dallas two days before. So actually the exact opposite is the norm.
I'm not saying ACL Fest is a done deal, but if it falls through it's certainly not for that reason.
Wha? That makes no sense. Actually, the exact opposite is true, most touring bands play festivals in the middle of their tours, it's much easier than loading up all the equipment for one show. If festivals only signed bands who weren't playing other shows, they would be severely limiting themselves.
Last year, Bob Dylan headlined and he played at Stubbs the night before. Tom Petty, who headlined the year before, was in the middle of his 30th Anniversary tour and played a show two days before and two days after ACL Fest. Coldplay the year before had just played Dallas two days before. So actually the exact opposite is the norm.
I'm not saying ACL Fest is a done deal, but if it falls through it's certainly not for that reason.
here you go. this is from an article from today's Chicago Tribune...
"Jerry Mickelson, founder and partner of Jam Productions, understands the appeal of music festivals, but companies such as his, which owns Chicago venues including the Riviera and Park West, are on the losing end. The contracts between festival organizers and bands contain "radius" clauses that prevent musicians from playing within a certain radius of the event and within a certain time period before and after it."
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"In your case, I'll check my brain at the door and we'll start even, okay?"
I hope all of the Texas theories are right. However, this is what I am afraid is happening. Pearl Jam was considering ACL and decided againist it. They had arranged for shows in Texas around ACL and the Dallas venue published it. IN the meantime, Pearl Jam for whatever reason decided not to do ACL maybe because they want to record in the studio after the mini tour or maybe something else came up. So the plans for Texas were scrapped because it no longer made sense to have shows in Texas and nowhere else in the Summer. I am afraid this is what went down.
The ACL line-up will be released 4/15. So, I guess we'll see what going on then? They better fucking play this area SOON!
When they announced the PJ lineup here in Chicago they were talking on WXRT about how there were rumors they tried to get Pearl Jam again and they said PJ was not wanting to do any festivals besides Bonaroo this year just as they did not do any shows besides Lolla last year...
They don't play Texas this time around and they will drop hundreds if not thousands of more fans and the fade to obscurity will just continue.
I am as die hard as they come but I tell you this, I simply can not afford to drop thousands of dollars every year to chase a rock band around the country. This trip to NE I have planned is probably the last time I travel for this band. Kids and other things take priority.
I don't get it anyway. Every other band of their stature sure can find the time to make it down here. You know why? They play music for a living. Anywhere and everywhere they can.
They don't play Texas this time around and they will drop hundreds if not thousands of more fans and the fade to obscurity will just continue.
I am as die hard as they come but I tell you this, I simply can not afford to drop thousands of dollars every year to chase a rock band around the country. This trip to NE I have planned is probably the last time I travel for this band. Kids and other things take priority.
I don't get it anyway. Every other band of their stature sure can find the time to make it down here. You know why? They play music for a living. Anywhere and everywhere they can.
Exactly. I can't afford to travel to see the band. IF the Dallas show and a Houston show happen to pop up assuming the ACL fest rumor is true, I will go to the Dallas and Houston show. I just cannot afford to travel, and in all honesty, if the band wants our money, they will come down here and get it. Musically, it seems the bands priorities have changed. All the other acts we gre up listening too that are friends with pearl jam have all played shows down here. Pumpkins, RHCP, The who, Bruce Springsteen. I know I'm gonna get flamed but I've heard all the ignorant remarks before. My point is that, a band should play shows all over and not alienate an entire state. Even ONE show like they did for the Yield tour would have sufficed for the 2006 tour.
here you go. this is from an article from today's Chicago Tribune...
"Jerry Mickelson, founder and partner of Jam Productions, understands the appeal of music festivals, but companies such as his, which owns Chicago venues including the Riviera and Park West, are on the losing end. The contracts between festival organizers and bands contain "radius" clauses that prevent musicians from playing within a certain radius of the event and within a certain time period before and after it."
Well, then, for ACL Fest the radius must be a couple miles and the time period must be a few hours, cause as I said before every headliner from years past has played other shows within a day or two, and Dylan's show was in the same city on the same weekend.
yesterday, Rubysdad (prez of 10C) said that there are no other planned dates for 2008. I understand that this email was sent out to several people- but who are you gonna believe, some email from a venue in Texas (that even indicates it is only "pending") or the prez of the 10C?
thats because pearl jam is fuckin greedy now. Of course they are gonna tell you no other shows are planned, so you will buy tickets for the first 10 shows, then once those shows are sold out, they will announce the 2nd leg. I've bought 5 shows so far and I'm holding out for the 2nd leg.
I agree STP has a 65 date tour, Dave Matthews has a big fuckin tour, both with all the dates announced. Why do they choose to announce shows a few at a time. All I want is to see PJ come through Arizona once a year, cuz I know they'd play vegas and I could catch 'em there too. Even if they just played the Gorge every year around Labour Day and it was a sure thing I'd go to that and be happy.
Let's see those 2013 dates in the southern states.
I agree STP has a 65 date tour, Dave Matthews has a big fuckin tour, both with all the dates announced. Why do they choose to announce shows a few at a time. All I want is to see PJ come through Arizona once a year, cuz I know they'd play vegas and I could catch 'em there too. Even if they just played the Gorge every year around Labour Day and it was a sure thing I'd go to that and be happy.
Where did you find the rest of the STP dates? I can only find the first leg thru August.
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April 15.
BOS-9/28/04,9/29/04,6/28/08,6/30/08, 9/5/16, 9/7/16, 9/2/18
MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
HTFD-6/27/08
ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
OKC-11/16/13
SEA-12/6/13
TUL-10/8/14
ok i agree it would be awesome for pj/10c to announce a 30 date tour and such.
to say they dont have any more "planned" may not be the best term. we all know they probably are planning more. pj has/is known as a TOURING band.
but...
the 10c cant say ok guys, they are hitting town XYZ without 100% things being in order. can u imagine the panic this place would have if they said they are going to town XYZ on a saturday night. by sunday morning loads of ten club members would have transportation, hotels, and plans confirmed. and then lets say that sunday afternoon that the 10c says, sorry guys town XYZ didnt happen. sorry. this place would be in an uproar.
the only thing i can add to this part, is i remember i was friends with a promoter and booker and organizers in a town i lived in. pj was coming. no doubt. they were planning for months. i got told because they knew how much i would enjoy it and how i can keep my mouth shut. anyway, pj was coming. just a few more details to work out. ok we are almost ready to announce it. just a few more kinks. ok any day now.... annyyyy day now.......anndddd...... well it fell through. the two sides couldnt agree. "this happens a lot" i got told. i found out more about the situation and it turns out is was the promoters fault more than anyone else's. and they turned out to be jerks about it. i was crushed but saw them in other towns. in other cities. but most of the times it can come down to a little disagreement. or in the case of multi city tours, they wont let a band play in arena in florida, because the kinks aren't worked out in pennsylvania and both are owned by a major corporation. (ie clearchannel.) so much goes into these tours, and until they are finalized in ink and notarized and payment and lots of other things, then the 10c cant say anything is "official" or "planned" 10c is doing there jobs in keeping us from all booking plane tix to all over the US and having to cancel them later.
i have heard the same rumors of texas dates. some of those were even in the last tour and we know those didnt happen.
all i can say again is.
go to acl fest. its always great. they book a variety of really good bands. its lots of fun. if you find out pj is playing. even better. if it turns out they will be in dallas that weekend. even better.
thanks for the info on dallas.
but please dont jump on 10c for doing what is not only thier job, but in the interest of most of the fans here.
but nice people sw****w
Amen
That's what I always say
Anyone who can't understand that should be killed
-George Carlin
That's what I always say
Anyone who can't understand that should be killed
-George Carlin
This is exactly what I was thinking while reading the thread.
There's definitely some "planning" going on.
See you at ACL.
Houston '03
Dallas '03
Hopefully more to come in TX.......some day.
Bonnaroo '08
Depressing . . .
BOS-9/28/04,9/29/04,6/28/08,6/30/08, 9/5/16, 9/7/16, 9/2/18
MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
HTFD-6/27/08
ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
OKC-11/16/13
SEA-12/6/13
TUL-10/8/14
I hope another leg happens, but I dont see how ACL and other Texas shows could co-exist. Someone said ACL relases its lineup in 3 weeks or so, so we should know soon.
"In your case, I'll check my brain at the door and we'll start even, okay?"
Have you thanked a taper today?
Last year, Bob Dylan headlined and he played at Stubbs the night before. Tom Petty, who headlined the year before, was in the middle of his 30th Anniversary tour and played a show two days before and two days after ACL Fest. Coldplay the year before had just played Dallas two days before. So actually the exact opposite is the norm.
I'm not saying ACL Fest is a done deal, but if it falls through it's certainly not for that reason.
as all the cool kids say
"the waiting drove me mad"
but nice people sw****w
here you go. this is from an article from today's Chicago Tribune...
"Jerry Mickelson, founder and partner of Jam Productions, understands the appeal of music festivals, but companies such as his, which owns Chicago venues including the Riviera and Park West, are on the losing end. The contracts between festival organizers and bands contain "radius" clauses that prevent musicians from playing within a certain radius of the event and within a certain time period before and after it."
"In your case, I'll check my brain at the door and we'll start even, okay?"
Have you thanked a taper today?
source?
www.myspace.com/lance_gray
www.bonafidedarling.com
I am as die hard as they come but I tell you this, I simply can not afford to drop thousands of dollars every year to chase a rock band around the country. This trip to NE I have planned is probably the last time I travel for this band. Kids and other things take priority.
I don't get it anyway. Every other band of their stature sure can find the time to make it down here. You know why? They play music for a living. Anywhere and everywhere they can.
BOS-9/28/04,9/29/04,6/28/08,6/30/08, 9/5/16, 9/7/16, 9/2/18
MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
HTFD-6/27/08
ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
OKC-11/16/13
SEA-12/6/13
TUL-10/8/14
EV Solo: 7/11/11 11/12/12 11/13/12
thats because pearl jam is fuckin greedy now. Of course they are gonna tell you no other shows are planned, so you will buy tickets for the first 10 shows, then once those shows are sold out, they will announce the 2nd leg. I've bought 5 shows so far and I'm holding out for the 2nd leg.
Its rare for anyone from the 10C to step up and debunk a rumor.
and there have been other instances where people waitied for more shows only to be VERY dissapointed.
I wouldnt count on it, but Id love to be wrong.
Which is why I am doing Hartford and Mansfield.
I am going to enjoy the hell out of it because it is most likely the last time I travel.
BOS-9/28/04,9/29/04,6/28/08,6/30/08, 9/5/16, 9/7/16, 9/2/18
MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
HTFD-6/27/08
ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
OKC-11/16/13
SEA-12/6/13
TUL-10/8/14
I can add myself to this category several times