Favorite Poet?

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The Basketball diaries

It was a dream, not a nightmare. A beautiful dream I could never imagined in a thousand nods. I saw this girl next to me, she wasn't beautiful until she smiled. And I felt that smile come at me in heat waves following. Soaking through my body and out my finger tips in shafts of color. And I knew somewhere in the world, somewhere, that there was love for me.

Jim Carrol

sevensins

i always liked emily dickenson......

FinsburyParkCarrots

Originally posted by sevensins
i always liked emily dickinson......

So do I.


Do you like Plath?

Julijana

Originally posted by sevensins
i always liked emily dickenson......

Emily Dickinson has some great poems,but other just confuse the hell out of me.

john girl

asked if Jim Morrison was a poet,
I think he was
YES

Stolen Pencil420

Didn't he say something like that in Wayne's World II? Wayne was trying to have a concert, called Waynestock, and Jim Morrison came to him in a daydream. Morrison said something like, "If you book them, they will come."

A HitchHiker Poet

Favorite poet hands down is Jim Morrison... Others.. Joni Mitchel, Jewel, Eddie Vedder, Bob Dylan,, Edgar Allen Poe

FinsburyParkCarrots

Originally posted by Goulet
a poem and a song are two completely different things
sort of like third or fourth cousins
both good, but not really related at all

Not sure about that. Homer's "Iliad" and "Odyssey" - both narrative poems in dactyllic hexameter - were sung to the lyre by rhapsodes at least up to the time of Socrates. We presume this because Plato writes about them in "Ion" and "The Republic".
There's musicality in a vowel, a repetition, an assonance...does a poem have to measure to an equal metre, cadence and rhyme scheme to be a lyric? In the strictest, traditionalist way of thinking about the lyric form, it was argued that it should not only fit such formal requirements, but also always be in the first person. Does that mean that the words of a cleverly-constructed lyric that has no self-reference isn't a "lyric"? Where a lyric starts and where a poem begins, I don't know. I'd be interested if you would try to offer your ideas on what makes a song and what makes a poem. What do you think? This is one of the most interesting posts I've ever been able to respond to here on this board, because there's not only a thread but a web's worth of discussion
to be had on this point. When is a poem not a poem? What makes a good poem? What makes a bad poem but a good song lyric? Who judges, and what personal or social experiences inform that judgement?

cassia

greetings and jubilations FinsburyParkCarrots:

my take is that "poetry" engulfs the song
i.e.,

Poesis...the Greek...the Made-thing...the MAKING
so etymologically, all creative works

are poetry.

To the Greeks, a poet was a "maker."
The "poiema," something made.

Song stems back to an Icelandic term, "songr."
In fact, in one dictionary, a third definition for song is
"poetical compositon, poetry."

Cool.

I hear you, about when is a poem a poem. Eiks and eegads when we come across some bland prosaic thing, given formalesque shape. But a poem is a poem, even a bad poem.

The poet Wallace Stevens wrote about how all these poems, the "lesser poems" are just seeking out, referring to, the Central Poem...

this great perfect poem, the One Poem.

There were nine muses...from which we derive our term Music. One for poetry, one for song....

the way (today) I view it,

the poem feels its meter and cadence internally
and
the song bursts forth
with externallly sounding note-music

Also, sometimes I sense a real difference between a page-poem and spoken-word poetry.

then, in a sense, it's not poetry, it's drama. Or comedy....
theatre, presentation.

The oral tradition, yes, and narratives were sought to convey the idealized victories and ancient histories, folklore....

then transcribed by clerics, etc....

but, wow, it's All Good, eh

just letting the creative impulse do its work
vibes, vibrations, vibrato

rock on, smiles

john girl

has anyone else taken poetry classes and the instructor bans

rock n roll poets as a class resource? I think that is very limiting,

and if Emily Dickinson or Emerson, Poe were alive today

(you never know...)

maybe they'd express through rock n roll, rap, etc..

read Em. D's poem 1021,

Look and see if she did a poem that numerate matches your birthday or a date significant to you.

It's spooky cool!

cassia

michael mclure

sultryevening

I'm singing in the rain
just singing in the rain
what a glorious feeling.................

Stolen Pencil420

...and if Emily Dickinson or Emerson, Poe were alive today

(you never know...)

maybe they'd express through rock n roll, rap, etc..

I totally agree. They never knew the music genres we now know today, but if they did, they would have seized the oppurtunity like a baby grabs onto its mother's hand.

I could see Poe rockin' on the guitar, and writing his own, authentic, impactful lyrics. After he screeches "...Quoth the raven, Nevermore!", he'd play a sick guitar solo

myblood2

for anyone who thinks poems and songs are completely different....this is why i consider poems and songs to be the same



if i write a poem and then put it to music

its is still the same poem with the same words

so is it no longer a poem?

in this mans opinion....no

Stolen Pencil420

That's exactly how I write my own songs. I write a poem, sing it, and then add some guitar in there (easier said than done).

coleen

my favorite poet......

sing it with me now - do-do-do-dah-dah......

Being Enlightened

Originally posted by coleen
my favorite poet......

sing it with me now - do-do-do-dah-dah......

Goulet!

Hi coleen! It's nice to see you! I hope that you get some more free time soon!