Third Eye Blind... they played on the deck in front of the R&RHOF one year during the Cleveland Grand Prix weekend. It was a free show and I still wanted my money back! While they sound great in studio, Stephen Jenkins live is the epitome of tone def!!
I like them....don't flame me...but I've never seen them live.
noticed they're playing the Masonic in SF in the near future.
Oh I like them as well. He might have just had a really, really off day that day. Anyone else I know who's seen them has said they were awesome; I just personally experienced the polar opposite.
Staysea are you saying you didn't like Deluna? That was hands down the best run/best atmosphere/cheapest beer festival I've ever been to outside of MMJ's little mini-fest in Mexico. I think that might be the first time I've ever heard anyone say anything negative. And also, I thought Cake was pretty good when I saw them a few years back.
By far the worst out of the 100+ concerts I've seen was Dylan. I've seen him twice and it's just sad. Which kills me to say, but it's true. Also, the worst crowd was at last year's Ryan Adams show in Philly. Everyone was seated at a rock concert and didn't make a sound.... Weirdest thing I've ever seen. The crowd in NYC a month later was light years better.
Yeah, but it's Dylan. He has no range left but it's still Dylan. The fact that possibly the greatest legend in music is still recording and playing is pretty remarkable.
Exactly.... Which is why it kills me to say it. He's the greatest songwriter of all time, but Jesus Christ.... It's unlistenable. I respect the hell out of him but he's just embarrassing himself at this point. I can't tell you how many people left the Americanarama shows after Wilco and MMJ finished.
Exactly.... Which is why it kills me to say it. He's the greatest songwriter of all time, but Jesus Christ.... It's unlistenable. I respect the hell out of him but he's just embarrassing himself at this point. I can't tell you how many people left the Americanarama shows after Wilco and MMJ finished.
That's when I left. That was mostly because I had to walk across a river of shit (literally) to get to/from the venue from Victor's Pub. Rain that day was crazy. I think I'm still dirty from the streets of camden being flooded
Dude, that was the worst flooding I've ever seen in my life. I couldn't comprehend the fact that there were streets flooded up to my knees. It was mind boggling.
Third Eye Blind... they played on the deck in front of the R&RHOF one year during the Cleveland Grand Prix weekend. It was a free show and I still wanted my money back! While they sound great in studio, Stephen Jenkins live is the epitome of tone def!!
I like them....don't flame me...but I've never seen them live.
noticed they're playing the Masonic in SF in the near future.
Oh I like them as well. He might have just had a really, really off day that day. Anyone else I know who's seen them has said they were awesome; I just personally experienced the polar opposite.
I didn't wanna say anything earlier but add me to the list. I've been a 3eb fan for a long time, but only saw them live for the first time last year. They did "tags" (like what PJ do) of genuine & covered the Jackson five. I had gone in with really low expectations cuz I'd seen some YouTube videos of them live years ago & they sounded awful. They played a pretty short show (by their standards, according to my friend who's seen them multiple times) but I had a fantastic time. It was a lot of fun.
bouncing souls- opening for gaslight anthem- The lead singer just limp-wristed the microphone the entire time with no movement. I have seen them as headliners multiple times and they were much better. Makes me wonder if other bands are different dependent on opening or headlining.
The worst of times..they don't phase me, even if I look and act really crazy.
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I must be one lucky guy- I can't think of any concerts I've particularly disliked, just ones I've liked more than others.
I think I would have an easier time posting on a thread called, "WORST concert audiences (top five) you've seen".
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I must be one lucky guy- I can't think of any concerts I've particularly disliked, just ones I've liked more than others.
I think I would have an easier time posting on a thread called, "WORST concert audiences (top five) you've seen".
Sorry Brian, but I can't resist here:
Eddie Vedder's first solo effort ever in Vancouver (2009) featured a few first rate knobs: always yelling during moments they shouldn't and likely feeling they were sharing the spotlight. I was kinda wanting to smack them... I'm sure Ed and some others were too. Very annoying.
Lol... No doubt. It's ROCK N ROLL people. You want people to sit and shut up, go see the orchestra (which is awesome btw)
I wouldn't call an EV solo show rock and roll. It's more an acoustic folk concert. One where the performer also basically converses with the audience. And that makes it inappropriate for drunk idiots to be yelling the whole time, IMO.
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My 'worst' concerts for me aren't the worst because the band is bad, but more so because of other contributing factors:
Kings of Leon, 2014- Caleb's voice is amazing, they've got some fantastic songs, I'm a big fan--but man there was no crowd interaction, they barely moved, all we got was a contrived 'Hello DC!' and "How ya feelin"...just felt they were going through the motions that show.
Matisyahu, 2010- He was fantastic, but the way the show was set up (it was at my school) was super weird, and made for weird connection as well. It was the organizations supporting the concert's production and guests up front, and all other students (the fans) in the seats, a good bit away from the stage. So that made for weird crown dynamic and took away from the show. Saw him last year, and it was like a 180.
Eric Hutchinson, 2013--Ok, this was because the band/artist was bad...I just didn't enjoy it. Another one put on at my school.
Avett Brothers, 2014- Band was on point but holy crap, the experience overall was a strange one. I'm used to a great Avett crowd that goes crazy for the music, but is also respectful. Instead got uninterested, rude, beliggerent folks at this one. I saw three separate fights--who fights at an Avett Brothers show? One nearby was over beer. It was in VA, and people were way more interested in hearing the opener sing Wagon Wheel than Avett, my friends and I were told by the old fogies behind us to sit down--and then they left before the encore, and an entire family took up the row in front of us, were on their phones the whole time, and also left at the encore. Just strange all around.
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Lol... No doubt. It's ROCK N ROLL people. You want people to sit and shut up, go see the orchestra (which is awesome btw)
I wouldn't call an EV solo show rock and roll. It's more an acoustic folk concert. One where the performer also basically converses with the audience. And that makes it inappropriate for drunk idiots to be yelling the whole time, IMO.
Indeed. It's distasteful at an Ed solo show. 1Thought, I think you may have misunderstood me. I was referencing Ed's use of "thieves of silence" from the Water on the Road show. But yes, a Pearl Jam show, you better be loud & and on your feet at all times! (medical conditions notwithstanding)
Lol... No doubt. It's ROCK N ROLL people. You want people to sit and shut up, go see the orchestra (which is awesome btw)
I wouldn't call an EV solo show rock and roll. It's more an acoustic folk concert. One where the performer also basically converses with the audience. And that makes it inappropriate for drunk idiots to be yelling the whole time, IMO.
Thanks for this.
Some people just don't understand time and place; hence, you will always have some fool that thinks he's awesome yelling something at an inappropriate time trying to share the spotlight. At the Benaroya Hall, Ed unplugged, sang and played without any amplification at one point near the end of the show. This was not a moment for an idiot to try and make Ed and the audience think they were cool or funny- it was a time to shut the fuck up and applaud when the song was over.
Lol... No doubt. It's ROCK N ROLL people. You want people to sit and shut up, go see the orchestra (which is awesome btw)
I wouldn't call an EV solo show rock and roll. It's more an acoustic folk concert. One where the performer also basically converses with the audience. And that makes it inappropriate for drunk idiots to be yelling the whole time, IMO.
I don't go to "acoustic folk concerts" so I am unaware of the "etiquette". Would me screaming Baba Booey be inappropriate? Everyone has their own version of what fun is, I've been told to be quiet at a hockey game because I was cheering for the road team. Someone is boisterous, they are having a good time, they paid their ticket just like you. My two cents... Like to see people enjoying themselves as long as it is not abusive towards anyone
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I must be one lucky guy- I can't think of any concerts I've particularly disliked, just ones I've liked more than others.
I think I would have an easier time posting on a thread called, "WORST concert audiences (top five) you've seen".
Sorry Brian, but I can't resist here:
Eddie Vedder's first solo effort ever in Vancouver (2009) featured a few first rate knobs: always yelling during moments they shouldn't and likely feeling they were sharing the spotlight. I was kinda wanting to smack them... I'm sure Ed and some others were too. Very annoying.
Some people. Sheesh.
No need to apologize, Thirty, I get it!
Worst audience I can remember was seeing Leo Kottke in Santa Rosa, CA, 1990. Kottke's up there blowing my mind playing two or three part on a guitar by himself and all these well to do yuppies around us do in response is applaud mildly like Leo was giving a talk on how to install conduit between wall studs. The worst of it was this couple behind us who were jabber jawing the whole time and breathing their vintage wine and garlic breath down our necks. I was like one of the only one's between songs going, YEAH! ALRIGHT! while everyone else politely clapped like they had gloves on. I felt terribly for poor Leo but he was a real trooper and did his thing regardless.
"Don't give in to the lies. Don't give in to the fear. Hold on to the truth. And to hope."
I must be one lucky guy- I can't think of any concerts I've particularly disliked, just ones I've liked more than others.
I think I would have an easier time posting on a thread called, "WORST concert audiences (top five) you've seen".
Sorry Brian, but I can't resist here:
Eddie Vedder's first solo effort ever in Vancouver (2009) featured a few first rate knobs: always yelling during moments they shouldn't and likely feeling they were sharing the spotlight. I was kinda wanting to smack them... I'm sure Ed and some others were too. Very annoying.
Some people. Sheesh.
The worst of it was this couple behind us who were jabber jawing the whole time and breathing their vintage wine and garlic breath down our necks.
Nothing sexier!
This reminded me of an awful moment I endured at an AIC concert: a drunkard behind me sneezed on the back of my neck. Frickin slob. His spittle burned me like I was a possessed person being splashed with holy water- I felt his DNA on my neck the rest of the evening.
I entertained the notion of slapping him a few times, but decided on staying in the venue given there was half a show still. To the post above yours... if sneezing on people was a guy's idea of fun... is that par for the course? Just because you pay for a ticket, that doesn't mean it gives you the right to trample on other people's rights. Whether yelling at inappropriate times like a brain damaged baboon, or farting all over people... rude behavior is rude behavior.
^^^^^^ I had a garbage can fall on my head and flip over and dump garbage and stale beer over me on the rail at the NOFX concert April 4 in Tempe, AZ. I saw stars and wondered for a couple seconds as I shook it off if I had a concussion, only to have a crowd surfer kick me in head coming down to security over the rail, all during "Don't call me White". Punk rock at its finest and it was AWESOME. Was I mad? HELLLLLL NO. The violence was in the pit... It was AWESOME. In recent memory the only pit which was even close to that was the PJ concert in Trieste. Certainly far more invigorating than standing 5 people back and trying to see my way around cell phones videotaping the concert. You want that? Stay in the back. Most PJ are Ramones fans, Fugazi (Minor Threat) Bad Religion, etc etc. Punk is a part of PJ and one of the reasons they are awesome. I wish people would let loose more at the North American PJ concerts. I'll tell you one thing, anytime PJ plays in Italy, I'm in! In other words, if I based the worst concerts I have seen on the audience, PJ would be included.
Lol... No doubt. It's ROCK N ROLL people. You want people to sit and shut up, go see the orchestra (which is awesome btw)
I wouldn't call an EV solo show rock and roll. It's more an acoustic folk concert. One where the performer also basically converses with the audience. And that makes it inappropriate for drunk idiots to be yelling the whole time, IMO.
I don't go to "acoustic folk concerts" so I am unaware of the "etiquette". Would me screaming Baba Booey be inappropriate? Everyone has their own version of what fun is, I've been told to be quiet at a hockey game because I was cheering for the road team. Someone is boisterous, they are having a good time, they paid their ticket just like you. My two cents... Like to see people enjoying themselves as long as it is not abusive towards anyone
I'd say that when the artist is asking people to be quiet, that's a good time to stop. And Eddie mentions it regularly.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I don't go to "acoustic folk concerts" so I am unaware of the "etiquette". Would me screaming Baba Booey be inappropriate? Everyone has their own version of what fun is, I've been told to be quiet at a hockey game because I was cheering for the road team. Someone is boisterous, they are having a good time, they paid their ticket just like you. My two cents... Like to see people enjoying themselves as long as it is not abusive towards anyone
The scenario at the hockey game is pretty different. That's a situation where being loud and boisterous is acceptable, but somebody was being a poor sport because they didn't like who you were cheering for. Surely you realize that there is different etiquette for different situations, and not everything that is entertainment calls for being loud and boisterous. Going to the movies is fun, but you can't act like an ass in the theater and expect the "I paid for my ticket the same as you" defense to work. A ticket is permission to enter the venue, not permission to do whatever you want inside. There's a time and place for everything. Some shows are about rocking out with your cock out, others are about a more laid back/intimate experience. If somebody is incapable of turning off "Rock Mode" then they should probably stick to the former and not the latter. That's what I do, as I'm not really the "acoustic folk concerts" type either. Armed with that knowledge I usually choose to skip such events, rather than barge in with a rock show mentality and expecting people to deal with it. As you said, they paid for their ticket too (to see/hear Eddie and not some obnoxious audience member), so being considerate is important.
"See a broad to get dat booty yak 'em, leg 'er down, a smack 'em yak 'em!"
anything that involves someone else's bodily fluids on me is grounds for immediate violence.
Trust me... I entertained several scenarios where I expressed my anger physically, but there were a few variables: one being he was shitfaced drunk with eyes wobbling every direction. He was pathetic and I would have looked like an ass... well, I would have been an ass... lumping him out.
He left a couple songs after the sneeze and I was hoping he pissed his pants or shit himself. Idiot.
I don't go to "acoustic folk concerts" so I am unaware of the "etiquette". Would me screaming Baba Booey be inappropriate? Everyone has their own version of what fun is, I've been told to be quiet at a hockey game because I was cheering for the road team. Someone is boisterous, they are having a good time, they paid their ticket just like you. My two cents... Like to see people enjoying themselves as long as it is not abusive towards anyone
The scenario at the hockey game is pretty different. That's a situation where being loud and boisterous is acceptable, but somebody was being a poor sport because they didn't like who you were cheering for. Surely you realize that there is different etiquette for different situations, and not everything that is entertainment calls for being loud and boisterous. Going to the movies is fun, but you can't act like an ass in the theater and expect the "I paid for my ticket the same as you" defense to work. A ticket is permission to enter the venue, not permission to do whatever you want inside. There's a time and place for everything. Some shows are about rocking out with your cock out, others are about a more laid back/intimate experience. If somebody is incapable of turning off "Rock Mode" then they should probably stick to the former and not the latter. That's what I do, as I'm not really the "acoustic folk concerts" type either. Armed with that knowledge I usually choose to skip such events, rather than barge in with a rock show mentality and expecting people to deal with it. As you said, they paid for their ticket too (to see/hear Eddie and not some obnoxious audience member), so being considerate is important.
I stick to the former just like you. If Eddie is asking people to be quiet to do his hippy shit then so be it. This is a Rock band's website... I'll respectfully say that I wish the GA pit at NA PJ shows wasn't so lame. I'm 40 btw so it isn't like I'm a college kid here. I like the sweaty pit, when getting to the rail meant you worked for it. In Trieste we were at least 15 back. Five songs in we were three back in front of Eddie. That's awesome
1- RHCP - Copenhagen 1999. The worst ever! Almost an hour an 10 minutes of sloppy playing. The Sound went out in one side of the building A few times. Anthony can't sing live and they can't put together a decent setlist. ( i have seen the 2 other times where they were pretty bad aswell) 2- Skambankt Copenhagen 2015 - just A bad band, playing an anoying show 3- smashing pumpkins - Copenhagen 2008 - the worst setlist ever and nevøer have I experienced A Bass that muddy, the Floor felt like it was an organic swamp or something like that 4- Oasis copenhagen 1997 - bad performance, bad Sound, boring actually 5- Keith caputo - Copenhagen 2011 - to stoned or drink on stage.
I don't go to "acoustic folk concerts" so I am unaware of the "etiquette". Would me screaming Baba Booey be inappropriate? Everyone has their own version of what fun is, I've been told to be quiet at a hockey game because I was cheering for the road team. Someone is boisterous, they are having a good time, they paid their ticket just like you. My two cents... Like to see people enjoying themselves as long as it is not abusive towards anyone
The scenario at the hockey game is pretty different. That's a situation where being loud and boisterous is acceptable, but somebody was being a poor sport because they didn't like who you were cheering for. Surely you realize that there is different etiquette for different situations, and not everything that is entertainment calls for being loud and boisterous. Going to the movies is fun, but you can't act like an ass in the theater and expect the "I paid for my ticket the same as you" defense to work. A ticket is permission to enter the venue, not permission to do whatever you want inside. There's a time and place for everything. Some shows are about rocking out with your cock out, others are about a more laid back/intimate experience. If somebody is incapable of turning off "Rock Mode" then they should probably stick to the former and not the latter. That's what I do, as I'm not really the "acoustic folk concerts" type either. Armed with that knowledge I usually choose to skip such events, rather than barge in with a rock show mentality and expecting people to deal with it. As you said, they paid for their ticket too (to see/hear Eddie and not some obnoxious audience member), so being considerate is important.
I stick to the former just like you. If Eddie is asking people to be quiet to do his hippy shit then so be it. This is a Rock band's website... I'll respectfully say that I wish the GA pit at NA PJ shows wasn't so lame. I'm 40 btw so it isn't like I'm a college kid here. I like the sweaty pit, when getting to the rail meant you worked for it. In Trieste we were at least 15 back. Five songs is we were three back in front of Eddie. That's awesome
I really like a rowdy pit too. That's the best way to enjoy a rock concert for sure. But i also enjoy a good sit down acoustic show. It's all good.
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Puddle of mudd- Wes was sick and his voice was really hoarse. I do like a lot of their songs though.
Dokken was meh.
EV Solo: 7/11/11 11/12/12 11/13/12
EV Solo: 7/11/11 11/12/12 11/13/12
'10- MSG 1-2 '11- PJ20
'12- MIA; DeLuna '13- Wrigley; Pitt; Brooklyn 1-2; Philly 1-2; Baltimore; Seattle
'14- Denver '16- Philly 1-2; MSG 2
'17- Pilgrimage Music Fest (Eddie)
'18- Fenway
'10- MSG 1-2 '11- PJ20
'12- MIA; DeLuna '13- Wrigley; Pitt; Brooklyn 1-2; Philly 1-2; Baltimore; Seattle
'14- Denver '16- Philly 1-2; MSG 2
'17- Pilgrimage Music Fest (Eddie)
'18- Fenway
'10- MSG 1-2 '11- PJ20
'12- MIA; DeLuna '13- Wrigley; Pitt; Brooklyn 1-2; Philly 1-2; Baltimore; Seattle
'14- Denver '16- Philly 1-2; MSG 2
'17- Pilgrimage Music Fest (Eddie)
'18- Fenway
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even if I look and act really crazy.
I think I would have an easier time posting on a thread called, "WORST concert audiences (top five) you've seen".
Eddie Vedder's first solo effort ever in Vancouver (2009) featured a few first rate knobs: always yelling during moments they shouldn't and likely feeling they were sharing the spotlight. I was kinda wanting to smack them... I'm sure Ed and some others were too. Very annoying.
Some people. Sheesh.
Kings of Leon, 2014- Caleb's voice is amazing, they've got some fantastic songs, I'm a big fan--but man there was no crowd interaction, they barely moved, all we got was a contrived 'Hello DC!' and "How ya feelin"...just felt they were going through the motions that show.
Matisyahu, 2010- He was fantastic, but the way the show was set up (it was at my school) was super weird, and made for weird connection as well. It was the organizations supporting the concert's production and guests up front, and all other students (the fans) in the seats, a good bit away from the stage. So that made for weird crown dynamic and took away from the show. Saw him last year, and it was like a 180.
Eric Hutchinson, 2013--Ok, this was because the band/artist was bad...I just didn't enjoy it. Another one put on at my school.
Avett Brothers, 2014- Band was on point but holy crap, the experience overall was a strange one. I'm used to a great Avett crowd that goes crazy for the music, but is also respectful. Instead got uninterested, rude, beliggerent folks at this one. I saw three separate fights--who fights at an Avett Brothers show? One nearby was over beer. It was in VA, and people were way more interested in hearing the opener sing Wagon Wheel than Avett, my friends and I were told by the old fogies behind us to sit down--and then they left before the encore, and an entire family took up the row in front of us, were on their phones the whole time, and also left at the encore. Just strange all around.
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2010: MSGx2
2012: Made In America
2013: Pittsburgh, Brooklynx2, Hartford, Baltimore
2014: Leeds, Milton Keynes, Detroit
2015: Global Citizen Festival
2016: Phillyx2, MSGx2, Fenwayx2
2018: Barcelona, Wrigleyx2
But yes, a Pearl Jam show, you better be loud & and on your feet at all times! (medical conditions notwithstanding)
Some people just don't understand time and place; hence, you will always have some fool that thinks he's awesome yelling something at an inappropriate time trying to share the spotlight. At the Benaroya Hall, Ed unplugged, sang and played without any amplification at one point near the end of the show. This was not a moment for an idiot to try and make Ed and the audience think they were cool or funny- it was a time to shut the fuck up and applaud when the song was over.
Someone is boisterous, they are having a good time, they paid their ticket just like you.
My two cents... Like to see people enjoying themselves as long as it is not abusive towards anyone
No need to apologize, Thirty, I get it!
Worst audience I can remember was seeing Leo Kottke in Santa Rosa, CA, 1990. Kottke's up there blowing my mind playing two or three part on a guitar by himself and all these well to do yuppies around us do in response is applaud mildly like Leo was giving a talk on how to install conduit between wall studs. The worst of it was this couple behind us who were jabber jawing the whole time and breathing their vintage wine and garlic breath down our necks. I was like one of the only one's between songs going, YEAH! ALRIGHT! while everyone else politely clapped like they had gloves on. I felt terribly for poor Leo but he was a real trooper and did his thing regardless.
This reminded me of an awful moment I endured at an AIC concert: a drunkard behind me sneezed on the back of my neck. Frickin slob. His spittle burned me like I was a possessed person being splashed with holy water- I felt his DNA on my neck the rest of the evening.
I entertained the notion of slapping him a few times, but decided on staying in the venue given there was half a show still. To the post above yours... if sneezing on people was a guy's idea of fun... is that par for the course? Just because you pay for a ticket, that doesn't mean it gives you the right to trample on other people's rights. Whether yelling at inappropriate times like a brain damaged baboon, or farting all over people... rude behavior is rude behavior.
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I had a garbage can fall on my head and flip over and dump garbage and stale beer over me on the rail at the NOFX concert April 4 in Tempe, AZ. I saw stars
The violence was in the pit... It was AWESOME. In recent memory the only pit which was even close to that was the PJ concert in Trieste. Certainly far more invigorating than standing 5 people back and trying to see my way around cell phones videotaping the concert. You want that? Stay in the back.
Most PJ are Ramones fans, Fugazi (Minor Threat) Bad Religion, etc etc. Punk is a part of PJ and one of the reasons they are awesome. I wish people would let loose more at the North American PJ concerts.
I'll tell you one thing, anytime PJ plays in Italy, I'm in!
In other words, if I based the worst concerts I have seen on the audience, PJ would be included.
He left a couple songs after the sneeze and I was hoping he pissed his pants or shit himself. Idiot.
This is a Rock band's website... I'll respectfully say that I wish the GA pit at NA PJ shows wasn't so lame. I'm 40 btw so it isn't like I'm a college kid here. I like the sweaty pit, when getting to the rail meant you worked for it. In Trieste we were at least 15 back. Five songs in we were three back in front of Eddie. That's awesome
2- Skambankt Copenhagen 2015 - just A bad band, playing an anoying show
3- smashing pumpkins - Copenhagen 2008 - the worst setlist ever and nevøer have I experienced A Bass that muddy, the Floor felt like it was an organic swamp or something like that
4- Oasis copenhagen 1997 - bad performance, bad Sound, boring actually
5- Keith caputo - Copenhagen 2011 - to stoned or drink on stage.
But i also enjoy a good sit down acoustic show.
It's all good.