King Crimson

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  • Azwethinkweiz
    Azwethinkweiz Posts: 547
    binauralonthecape wrote:
    yeah red is prolly they're best album, i have their first box set which is from 69 to 74 i believe, great stuff, if you like progressive rock, some stuff can get a little too spacey, but red is pretty much balls out rock..

    Except "Providence".

    The ultimate mindfuck track.
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    Azwethinkweiz wrote:
    Except "Providence".

    The ultimate mindfuck track.
    ...and a live recording of an improv.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • elmer
    elmer Posts: 1,683
    Red's one of my all-time favourites but Discipline is another classic.
  • lalalalaaaaaaaa
    lalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    King Crimz:

    Very underrated by critics in general

    Very overrated by Tool fans

    ;)
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    elmer wrote:
    Red's one of my all-time favourites but Discipline is another classic.
    I actually don't own a copy of Discipline...because nearly all of the tracks are found in the "Frame by Frame" box set. Some great stuff.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • Mojopin
    Mojopin Posts: 216
    I saw Bowie back in 1990 in Seattle, and Adrian was the guitarist for that. It was awesome!

    Mojo
    "A consistently good band works all the different elements well. A song has to appeal sentimentally, intellectually, physically, viscerally, and dig deep down into your soul and suck you into it. And after that, of course, it'd be a matter of taste." ~ Kim Thayil from Soundgarden
  • elmer
    elmer Posts: 1,683
    Saturnal wrote:
    King Crimz:


    Very overrated by Tool fans

    ;)
    I've tried with Tool but their just way too heavy, can kinda see a slight connection with Crimson though.
  • elmer
    elmer Posts: 1,683
    Had a little listen to the Crimson.

    Belew,Fripp,Levin,Bruford- This being the first incarnation of the band to make successive albums without any line-up changes. The trilogy of: Discipline(81),Beat(82),Three of a Perfect Pair(84) made some wicked sounds. (around the same time Tom Waits did three linked albums:Rain Dogs,Swordfishtrombones,Odl Frank(not sure last one)).

    Side two of Three of a Perfect Pair has some really spacey tracks, actually I prefer to start at track5: Nuages(That Which Passes, Passes Like Clouds), and then play out the record through: Industry, Dig Me, No Warning, Larks' Tongues In Aspic Part III..........yep, from track 5 onwards this record runs Discipline pretty close.
  • lksammkt
    lksammkt Posts: 127
    yep bump...King Crimson!
    I just keep moving on....
  • Azwethinkweiz
    Azwethinkweiz Posts: 547
    The first time I listened to Crimson, I said to myself; "Wait, is this Tool i'm listening to?".

    It's crazy how much Tool ripped off this band.

    King Crimson is amazing...Tool is not.
  • glasshouse
    glasshouse Posts: 1,762
    i've got in the court of the crimson king
    and
    the power to believe

    haven't listen to either of them for a prolonged time. definitely something i need to remedy! not easy listening, but brilliant musicianship
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  • wcsmith
    wcsmith Posts: 165
    "King Crimson is amazing...Tool is not."

    I'm not sure that I agree with this. While Tool was clearly influenced by King Crimson, they are demonstrably different. Tool is much darker and not nearly as avant garde (check out ProjecKts for an example).

    I have been a fan of Tool for nearly 15 years and a fan of KC for nearly 5 years and have a deep appreciation for both. I am continually amazed by the need on this board to engage in mutually exclusive thinking when it comes to bands. Tool does not cease to be amazing because they are influenced by King Crimson. In my mind, that makes them even more amazing in that they are channeling and using some really complex and challenging music to shape their own. By sheer talent alone (listen to the drumming throughout Lateralus, by way of example) Tool can easily be placed in the 'amazing' category, at least by layman's standards.
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  • elmer
    elmer Posts: 1,683
    glasshouse wrote:
    i've got in the court of the crimson king
    and
    the power to believe

    haven't listen to either of them for a prolonged time. definitely something i need to remedy! not easy listening, but brilliant musicianship
    for me, the early period Crimson sound a little Pink Floyd. You need 'Red'.
  • restlesssoul
    restlesssoul Posts: 6,952
    i picked up in the court from this lady. ive never really got around to listening to it. its on vinyl, ill pull it out thanks to this thread.
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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    I have not listened to this band yet.
    I have been told and read that "In the Court of the Crimson King" is a masterpiece. 
    Other than this album, where else should I start?
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • qontheboard
    qontheboard Posts: 787
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    I have not listened to this band yet.
    I have been told and read that "In the Court of the Crimson King" is a masterpiece. 
    Other than this album, where else should I start?
    Start with "DISCIPLINE". It's their real masterpiece.
       
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    I wasn't that satisfied with my first listen of their debut. I talk to the wind and epitaph I don't mind. Too many whisper quiet moments with chimes that dragged on.
    Then again I felt the same the first time I listened to dark side of the moon and Animals
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Any more fans here? 
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    I am confused with their line up changes and the fact they had lyricists that didn't actually sing or play any instruments.
    Not used to that band set up.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Loujoe
    Loujoe Posts: 11,815
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    Any more fans here? 
    Me. Late to the party. Got a best of cd for cheap. 'The Compact King Crimson'. I find myself listening to it a lot. Refreshingly different music after I thought I heard it all.

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