King Crimson

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  • jbrownie
    jbrownie Posts: 140
    qontheboard said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    I have not listened to this band yet.
    I have been told and read that "In the Court of the Crimson King" is a masterpiece. 
    Other than this album, where else should I start?
    Start with "DISCIPLINE". It's their real masterpiece.
       
    I would say 'Red' is, but they've had several incarnations.  'Discipline' was probably their best 80s album.
    I started with Larks Tongue in Aspic, because I was familiar with John Wetton from Asia & Bill Bruford from Yes, and I wanted to hear what they sounded like together. They were a ferocious rhythm section. So, I really like the '73-'74 lineup best. This is where I hear the most resemblance to Tool.
  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    I saw King Crimson at Rutgers University in 1982 and Bruford was on drums - it was incredible. 

    I also saw them in 1996 as part of the  H.O.R.D.E. festival line-up. 

    The concert at Rutgers was in a small room - I was close to the stage and I happened to be walking to the bathroom when Bruford did a drum solo & I was right behind him and stood and watched him. Heavy metal and prog were my life so seeing King Crimson and Yes's drummer playing with them was completely amazing. I saw Bruford with Yes several times so this was icing. 

    I haven't listened to them in a long time but I listened to them a lot back in the earlier days. 

    Definitely a band full of exceptionally talented musicians and they are one of the bands that a fan of prog music just sat in stunned appreciation of the live experience. 
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    I don't like the fact the band line up changed so much over the years and that they brought in external lyricists. 
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Brotherjohnno9
    Brotherjohnno9 Posts: 463
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    I don't like the fact the band line up changed so much over the years and that they brought in external lyricists. 
    Not sure what you mean by external lyricists? Pete Sinfield is considered external to some degree, he contributed lyrics to some of their earliest material but he also did some keyboard work around the same time. The band line-up has certainly changed many times but when you consider how their music progressed over the decades it is justifiable. Some of the musicians from the early 70's line-ups probably wouldn't have dreamt of playing the stuff they produced in the 80's/90's.
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  • jbrownie
    jbrownie Posts: 140
    edited January 2019
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    I don't like the fact the band line up changed so much over the years and that they brought in external lyricists. 
    Yes, if it's Pete Sinfield you're referring to that you don't like as an external lyricist, well...we know you'll never be an ELP fan, LOL. He worked with them, and Greg Lake, Crimson's 1st singer, for most of the 70s.
    The lineups were vastly different. You don't sound like you enjoy their 1st album & that's fine. I don't care for their 3rd album, Lizard (with Gordon Haskell on vocals), OR their 4th (Boz Burrell on vocals). Then John Wetton joined, who, as I said, I knew from the band Asia.
    There's bound to be 1 incarnation that catches your fancy.
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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    jbrownie said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    I don't like the fact the band line up changed so much over the years and that they brought in external lyricists. 
    Yes, if it's Pete Sinfield you're referring to that you don't like as an external lyricist, well...we know you'll never be an ELP fan, LOL. He worked with them, and Greg Lake, Crimson's 1st singer, for most of the 70s.
    The lineups were vastly different. You don't sound like you enjoy their 1st album & that's fine. I don't care for their 3rd album, Lizard (with Gordon Haskell on vocals), OR their 4th (Boz Burrell on vocals). Then John Wetton joined, who, as I said, I knew from the band Asia.
    There's bound to be 1 incarnation that catches your fancy.
    I actually don't mind their first album. I love I talk to the wind and Epitaph. Great songs.
    Yeah I'm referring to Pete Sinfield. I prefer lyrics written by the actual musicians in the band.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    jbrownie said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    I don't like the fact the band line up changed so much over the years and that they brought in external lyricists. 
    Yes, if it's Pete Sinfield you're referring to that you don't like as an external lyricist, well...we know you'll never be an ELP fan, LOL. He worked with them, and Greg Lake, Crimson's 1st singer, for most of the 70s.
    The lineups were vastly different. You don't sound like you enjoy their 1st album & that's fine. I don't care for their 3rd album, Lizard (with Gordon Haskell on vocals), OR their 4th (Boz Burrell on vocals). Then John Wetton joined, who, as I said, I knew from the band Asia.
    There's bound to be 1 incarnation that catches your fancy.
    I mean someone who is not a musician in the band but writes their lyrics.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    I'm liking Larks' Tongues In Aspic.
    And that song "Starless" is great.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    This is amazing...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhKJgqxNDD8
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Larks' Tongues in Aspic is a brilliant album.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,353
    court of the crimson king is a stoner must have.

    unavailable on itunes, I believe. :angry:
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Wobbie said:
    court of the crimson king is a stoner must have.

    unavailable on itunes, I believe. :angry:
    Fripp sure makes it hard for people to access his music.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Fripp looks evil here...


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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,665
    Loved seeing Crimson at the Greek Theater in Berkeley in '82.  Standing in line outside the theater listening to Robert Fripp sound check was mind blowing.  Second only to hearing Hendrix doing a sound check in '68.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Wobbie said:
    court of the crimson king is a stoner must have.

    unavailable on itunes, I believe. :angry:
    I just checked and I can see their albums on iTunes. 
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    brianlux said:
    Loved seeing Crimson at the Greek Theater in Berkeley in '82.  Standing in line outside the theater listening to Robert Fripp sound check was mind blowing.  Second only to hearing Hendrix doing a sound check in '68.
    You are very lucky, I wish I could have seen Hendrix.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    I can never find their CDs in store.
    Not sure why this is (the retailer not stocking or the band not releasing).
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,353
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    Wobbie said:
    court of the crimson king is a stoner must have.

    unavailable on itunes, I believe. :angry:
    I just checked and I can see their albums on iTunes. 
    you originally couldn't. I once mistakenly purchased a song from a KC tribute band. :lol:
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
    Missoula 24
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    ^ ^ haha!
    Amazon has CDs for over $150 wtf?
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    brianlux said:
    Loved seeing Crimson at the Greek Theater in Berkeley in '82.  Standing in line outside the theater listening to Robert Fripp sound check was mind blowing.  Second only to hearing Hendrix doing a sound check in '68.
    I saw them on that same tour at Rutgers in New Brunswick, NJ,.

    Small venue at the Student Union Building, a 5 minute walk from my dorm. I am a huge YES fan & I was double psyched because of  Bill Buford.

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