Punk or Metal?

tonadax

which of the 2 music do u listen most?

Punk Or Metal

No_ones_rival

punk

xkevvx

How about in the middle.....hardcore.

harmless_little_f***

I don't listen to much of either, but I guess you could call half of PJ's catalogue punk, so, erm, punk. And the Ramones I listen to.. but are they punk? The jury's out on that one.

The only metal band I have on heavy rotation these days is Deftones.

LONGRD

Metal.

honestly, i can't stand punk. not even the so-called punk greats such as the Sex Pistols or the Ramones.
If you can't make songs that are longer than 3 minutes, don't even bother.

I do however like the Clash, they had rhythm and melody.

LONGRD

harmless_little_f*** wrote:

I don't listen to much of either, but I guess you could call half of PJ's catalogue punk, so, erm, punk. And the Ramones I listen to.. but are they punk? The jury's out on that one.

The only metal band I have on heavy rotation these days is Deftones.

only Binaural & Riot Act, that's why those two records are their weakest links.

xkevvx

harmless_little_f*** wrote:

but I guess you could call half of PJ's catalogue punk

I wouldn't.

harmless_little_f*** wrote:

And the Ramones I listen to.. but are they punk? The jury's out on that one.

Seriously?????

audiodave

Neither.

harmless_little_f***

LongRd. wrote:

only Binaural & Riot Act, that's why those two records are their weakest links.

Firstly, Binaural and Riot act are great albums.

Secondly, Pearl Jam has had several what-I-would-call punk songs ever since Vitalogy...

harmless_little_f***

xkevvx wrote:

I wouldn't.

Doesn't really matter whether you wouldn't, many would.

xkevx wrote:

Seriously?????

Seriously.

Many people would argue that their image was punk, but they were a pop rock band with 50's rock n roll and punk influences.. I haven't been listening long enough to form an opinion..

xkevvx

harmless_little_f*** wrote:

Doesn't really matter whether you wouldn't, many would.

Who, Pearl Jam fans?

harmless_little_f***

xkevvx wrote:

Who, Pearl Jam fans?

Yes Pearl Jam fans. One of Ed's greatest sources of influence is punk. Do I have to list all of PJ's punk songs?

angryyoungman

i guess im more punk than metal, but i listen to and enjoy both. . .how bout just good music, whatever that entails?

Anon

i listen to good music.

xkevvx

harmless_little_f*** wrote:

Yes Pearl Jam fans. One of Ed's greatest sources of influence is punk. Do I have to list all of PJ's punk songs?

You mean, like, the Pearl Jam fans that don't really know too much about punk rock, but hear Pearl Jam play some Ramones or Dead Kennedys and think "oh, Pearl Jam's kinda a punk band." And then they try to say Spin the Black Circle is a punk song....

xkevvx

Mushmouthmatt wrote:

i listen to good music.

You mean like Mushmouth?

angryyoungman

xkevvx wrote:

You mean, like, the Pearl Jam fans that don't really know too much about punk rock, but hear Pearl Jam play some Ramones or Dead Kennedys and think "oh, Pearl Jam's kinda a punk band." And then they try to say Spin the Black Circle is a punk song....

i dont get it, cause not all pj's songs are punk and ed doesnt have a mohawk and a leather jacket (ok he did that once) means they cant write a punk song? how is spin the black circle NOT a punk song?

harmless_little_f***

xkevvx wrote:

You mean, like, the Pearl Jam fans that don't really know too much about punk rock, but hear Pearl Jam play some Ramones or Dead Kennedys and think "oh, Pearl Jam's kinda a punk band." And then they try to say Spin the Black Circle is a punk song....

Oh come on, now you're just sounding like a twat. End of discussion.

stargirl69

harmless_little_f*** wrote:

Yes Pearl Jam fans. One of Ed's greatest sources of influence is punk. Do I have to list all of PJ's punk songs?

I dare you to.Cause there "punk" background must have passed me by in the 17 years Iv been into them.A couple of live covers of Dead Kennedys does a punk not make!But knock yourself out.

harmless_little_f***

stargirl69 wrote:

I dare you to.Cause there "punk" background must have passed me by in the 17 years Iv been into them.A couple of live covers of Dead Kennedys does a punk not make!But knock yourself out.

You know exactly which songs I'm going to name, and you're just going to use them to ridicule me, so... That said, my opinion stands. PJ have some punk songs. And I'm not going to enter a pissing contest of 'I've been into them longer than you'... Because you haven't. I'll match your 17 years.

xkevvx

angryyoungman wrote:

how is spin the black circle NOT a punk song?

How is it? Because it's fast?

stargirl69

harmless_little_f*** wrote:

You know exactly which songs I'm going to name, and you're just going to use them to ridicule me, so... That said, my opinion stands. PJ have some punk songs. And I'm not going to enter a pissing contest of 'I've been into them longer than you'... Because you haven't. I'll match your 17 years.

OOHH check you.
My reply was not a cunning plan to engage in a "Im a bigger fan than you" diatribe,that was your assumption.
Ive had the Pearl Jam are punk argument for years and my point is that I.M.O they are not a punk band or even musically influenced in that genre,heavily or otherwise.
Yes individual band members or collectively they may be punk fans but I would struggle to hear a punk influence in their music.
Be nice or not at all.

angryyoungman

xkevvx wrote:

How is it? Because it's fast?

if it looks like a duck, and sounds like a duck, its a duck bro

harmless_little_f***

stargirl69 wrote:

OOHH check you.
My reply was not a cunning plan to engage in a "Im a bigger fan than you" diatribe,that was your assumption.
Ive had the Pearl Jam are punk argument for years and my point is that I.M.O they are not a punk band or even musically influenced in that genre,heavily or otherwise.
Yes individual band members or collectively they may be punk fans but I would struggle to hear a punk influence in their music.
Be nice or not at all.

I was never not nice.

angryyoungman

that being said pj are NOT a punk band (though they have the values of one), they ARE influenced by punk on several songs, but for the most part are a ROCK band. . .ok?

xkevvx

harmless_little_f*** wrote:

Oh come on, now you're just sounding like a twat. End of discussion.

But I'm not. I used to play certain Pearl Jam songs for non fans who are punk fans and say "hey....this sounds punk!" And they just look at me and say..."No, Kevin....it's not..." It's like someone liking Slipnot or Disturbed, and going up to someone who likes Sick of It All and Madball and saying, "See, I like hardcore too!" It just isn't true.

angryyoungman

xkevvx wrote:

But I'm not. I used to play certain Pearl Jam songs for non fans who are punk fans and say "hey....this sounds punk!" And they just look at me and say..."No, Kevin....it's not..." It's like someone liking Slipnot or Disturbed, and going up to someone who likes Sick of It All and Madball and saying, "See, I like hardcore too!" It just isn't true.

so like he said, a pissing contest. . .im harder than you, im more punk than you elitist b.s.

xkevvx

angryyoungman wrote:

if it looks like a duck, and sounds like a duck, its a duck bro

LOL, I missed the fast=punk memo.

Anyway, Brain of J. I can see someone thinking that's a punk song. But the only reason I started arguing this is because dude said HALF of PJ's catalog is punk...

HALF. I could see one or two maybe, but nothing close to half.


And STBC is not one of them.

stargirl69

harmless_little_f*** wrote:

I was never not nice.

No just riled up.Meet your nemesis
I come onto these threads then get myself in all sorts of shit and cant bow out with grace :(
Then we all forget we are all hear because of our love of music and the passionate emotions it brings with it.
I'll remember to be nice to

xkevvx

angryyoungman wrote:

so like he said, a pissing contest. . .im harder than you, im more punk than you elitist b.s.

Ugh....it's not that. If I tell you Led Zeppelin isn't country, it's not elitist b.s. or a pissing contest....it's just the way it is...

angryyoungman

xkevvx wrote:

Ugh....it's not that. If I tell you Led Zeppelin isn't country, it's not elitist b.s. or a pissing contest....it's just the way it is...

ok, but your hearing a punk song and saying its not punk cause pj isnt a punk band. . .id agree that 1/2 of pj's catalouge isnt punk, but they have a bunch that are