so people are not allowed to have opinions? yeah...
so tell me.. what bands am i required to love and enjoy.. being a PJ fan and all
I could care less who you love and enjoy, but saying every other English band sounds the same is a big stretch. Just because you don't like a band, doesn't mean they aren't original. I really don't care for Pink Floyd all that much because I don't find some of their meanderings enjoyable or awe-inspiring like some people, but I would never go as far as to they were unoriginal.
beatles were overrated.. i never liked them
rolling stones have always been garbage.. can't stand them.. there is not 1 RS song i can honestly say i enjoy..
Zeppelin were good for their time.. but i never liked them
The Who - am i required to like them because they're friends w/ Ed? the who covers PJ does (baba, love reign, and everything else) all sound better then the originals
The only thing that makes that funnier is the fact that you are a proud member of the "BoyHitsar masked street team."
i am done with this. it is a fucked up thread because not enough people have any idea about music history.
i am seeing a number of bands that blew people away when they first came about and created a number of copy-cats because they were so original but people are putting them in the fucking list because they have no context to draw from.
fuck, i hate run-on sentences.
anyway, i guess someone is going to put the beatles on the list because they think muse sounds like them.
radiohead sounds like every other whiny english band..
bullshit. name 5. or one.
radiohead are compltely original. if you don't like their music, fine, but don't claim they aren't original. no one had done ok computer or kid a before them. no one.
you're being sarcastic right? how is led zeppelin not original? they are like THE basis for heavy metal. sure, they covered some established blues songs but they made them completely fresh with their arrangements. jimmy page on guitar and john bonham on drums are two wholly oriiginal artists putting their spin on those established songs... plus the led zeppelin originals are classics. what do you mean they are unoriginal?
alice in chains were not unoriginal at all. i don't know how old you are but at that time nobody sounded like layne and the music was very fresh. you can hear such a transition from facelift to dirt which is what became a very standard sound for the 90's but they were part of the crowd who invented that sound. just because the became generic doesn't make the originators unoriginal.
i agree with everything else, although i could argue korn and slipknot as well, but i don't care enough about them to get into it.
I totally agree with you on the Alice In Chains!
Remember how horrible music was when Facelift came out?
Unskinny bop bop.... she's my cherry pie...... then out of know where came .......I'm a man in a box........
That was huge!!!
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The Bootleg Beatles
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The Counterfeit Stones
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the only decent band to ever come out of england is tears for fears.
I love Tears for Fears
but quite frankly Depeche Mode, Roxy Music, Spandau Ballet, and the original Human League lineup, echo and the Bunnymen, all preceeded the TFF synth pop sound.
I wouldn't call them original...but The Hurting is an awesome underrated album
lets see.. their music goes nowhere..it sounds like every other english band.. the only decent band to ever come out of england is tears for fears. every other band after them has in one way or another tried to copy off TfF
every other band sounds exactly like the other bands.. it all mashes together..
Radio head
coldplay
oasis
david gray.. its hard to tell the difference
wow...great response. i mean you really explained very well what is so unoriginal about these bands. their music goes nowhere and it sounds like every other english band? good explanation. proves the point that you have no point....and if you do maybe you should elaborate cause i just see a bunch of words mashed together but you really aren't saying anything.
beatles were overrated.. i never liked them
rolling stones have always been garbage.. can't stand them.. there is not 1 RS song i can honestly say i enjoy..
Zeppelin were good for their time.. but i never liked them
The Who - am i required to like them because they're friends w/ Ed? the who covers PJ does (baba, love reign, and everything else) all sound better then the originals
wow. ignorance. that's the only word i can think of. you should just stop commenting on this thread. you just tried to pick apart 4 of the greatest rock bands of all time. how can you be such a big pearl jam fan and not at least appreciate all of these bands? where do you think pearl jam came from? you don't have to go buy all their albums but at least give them some credit.............oh and to say that every english band since tears for fears has tried to rip them off is another ridiculous statement. i must say that there aren't a whole lot of english bands since the 80's that i would consider myself a fan of. i love radiohead, and i like oasis, probably a few other, but who are all these bands you are saying rip off tears for fears?
godsmack - first band i thought of, they would be a less obvious aic rip-off if they stayed a coverband
led zeppelin - ok this will draw fire but these guys did almost nothing but rip off blues songs, they could just played them better.
system of downs - almost every song ive heard he is trying to be jello. listen to dead kennedys drug me and one tool song then you have nearly all of soad catalog.
puddle of mudd - ok you are not kurt cobain, sorry.
nickelback -they might be more unoriginal then godsmack
pretty much any emo band being played right now. the vocals are nothing but an obnoxious cry baby wine over this heavily distorted half punk/ half thrash metal sound. There are alot of bands that a plugging the airwaves with this over the last few years, and frankly it's obnoxious to me. I understand it's where all the $ is being made right now, but it all sounds the same. some of the bands I'm thinking could be local bands too though, but god it's hideous. To each his own though, but I can't listen to the radio anymore cause the new alternative rock stuff is bad! I switched to classic rock (they play the Grunge bands us Gen Xers grew up on too).
Nickleback
Alice In Chains
Velvet Revolver
Creed
Stone Temple Pilots
Silverchair
Candlebox
Bush
3 Doors Down
Puddle Of Mudd
Stained
Korn
Chris Cornell
Sevendust
Godsmack
Switchfoot
Daughtry
Audioslave
Slipknot
Whether or not you like Audioslave they sounded nothing like any other band, including their antecedents.
Radiohead and the White Stripes are two of the most unique bands out there. NOBODY sounds remotely like them (though Radiohead have been ripped off a lot since the 90s).
this isn't a thread about what bands you hate, it's about originality.
C'mon man that new WS single sounds exactly like a zep song with shit drumming.
hey i know all you guys think godsmack are very unoriginal, and that is the case for many of their tunes, due to the heavy, heavy aic influence. HOWEVER, if you look deeper into their catologue, they have alot of pretty nifty stuff. seeing them live made me look into it more. a song like serenity may have heavy aic influence but i wouldn't say it's unoriginal. with its awesome tribal drumming and such. just trust me, lots of their stuff is unoriginal, but in the same token alot is just heavily influenced without taking away its originality. i'm not trying to change anyones minds, or prove a point, but i'm just trying to get those who think that to look further and re-think it, because that band has alot more talent than most people think. i mean sully sings, writes, plays guitar, and whips out the drums insanely alongside their real drummer at their show. i was shocked. but yea thats that. hope that has people re-thinking.
anyway
i have always hated nickleback for their terrible unoriginality.
creed as well.
chris daughtry had potential. he blew it by miles. now he is complete garbage. you know, any tv show audition thing i think turns out to always be shit, but with that said i saw him and thought, well he seems like a good guy who loves music and he could sing. but in the back of my mind i knew what would happen so i never watched again. and what happened? yep he turned to generic bullshit. dont you love americanshitassidol? it's good for other genres, but for rock, it is just pointless. kills the cause of the music.
lastly, i'd like to say bowling for soup, all american rejects, hinder, fall-out boy, hawthorne heights, taking back sunday and all those type of bands. why? because they all sound EXACTLY THE SAME and they all sound like WHINY SHITS.
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Speaking of Zeppelin, John Paul Jones is the most UNDERRATED person in that band by a mile.
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led zeppelin - ok this will draw fire but these guys did almost nothing but rip off blues songs, they could just played them better.
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I believe ripping off the blues goes way back. Elvis
its not that. its that they tried to pass alot of it off as their own. elvis never said he wrote those songs. they are still credited to the actually writer.
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
lets see.. their music goes nowhere..it sounds like every other english band.. the only decent band to ever come out of england is tears for fears. every other band after them has in one way or another tried to copy off TfF
every other band sounds exactly like the other bands.. it all mashes together..
Radio head
coldplay
oasis
david gray.. its hard to tell the difference
Oasis, Coldplay etc, you get no complaint from me there but you clearly haven't got a clue with Radiohead.
Sound like every other whiny english band, for fuck sake's Radiohead head and shoulders over all English bands and most of US ones as well. If only a handful of bands were as brave and evolving as Radiohead we'd have a more healthy UK music scene instead of the copy cats we have at the moment.
Just you don't like it doesn't make it unoriginal, think about the question and try come up with an intelligent answer.
The Strokes: ripping off the Ramones & Velvet Underground does not make a unique original sound
Razorlight: what a fuckin joke, we get it you've heard Marquee Moon and some early U2 get something original material Borrell you ugly egostical wanker.
Arctic Monkeys: while agree that the singer has a poetic talent for lyrics this is nothing new, Difford & Tilbrook were doing the same thing in the squeeze over 20 years ago and Jarvis Cocker in the 90's with Pulp, The music is also nothing fresh yes a talented band but ceratinly anywhere Radioheads level.
Too much fuss is made of bands in the UK, I think music journalist have given up on requiring originality to make a band any good and rehashing the past with out putting something of yourself into is quite ok and shouldbe critically acclaimed.
You might think Radiohead have gone off the map, personally I don't but I'd rather have a collection of music which has some diversity as opposed to carbon copies with no desire to give us anything fresh.
While we're at it Muse, they like Queen and Radiohead and a big epic sound, does that really justify the next second comming tag they've received of late.
PJ, AIC both have taken influence from other areas but they inject their own personality into their music and give it the unmistakable stamp of individuality.
AIC sound to me more original than Nirvana, lets face it it their a great more amped version of the Pixies.
lets see.. their music goes nowhere..it sounds like every other english band.. the only decent band to ever come out of england is tears for fears. every other band after them has in one way or another tried to copy off TfF
every other band sounds exactly like the other bands.. it all mashes together..
Radio head
coldplay
oasis
david gray.. its hard to tell the difference
Oasis, Coldplay etc, you get no complaint from me there but you clearly haven't got a clue with Radiohead.
Sound like every other whiny english band, for fuck sake's Radiohead head and shoulders over all English bands and most of US ones as well. If only a handful of bands were as brave and evolving as Radiohead we'd have a more healthy UK music scene instead of the copy cats we have at the moment.
Just you don't like it doesn't make it unoriginal, think about the question and try come up with an intelligent answer.
The Strokes: ripping off the Ramones & Velvet Underground does not make a unique original sound
Razorlight: what a fuckin joke, we get it you've heard Marquee Moon and some early U2 get something original material Borrell you ugly egostical wanker.
Arctic Monkeys: while agree that the singer has a poetic talent for lyrics this is nothing new, Difford & Tilbrook were doing the same thing in the squeeze over 20 years ago and Jarvis Cocker in the 90's with Pulp, The music is also nothing fresh yes a talented band but certainly anywhere near Radiohead's level.
Too much fuss is made of bands in the UK, I think music journalist have given up on requiring originality to make a band any good and rehashing the past with out putting something of yourself into is quite ok and should be critically acclaimed.
You might think Radiohead have gone off the map, personally I don't but I'd rather have a collection of music which has some diversity as opposed to carbon copies with no desire to give us anything fresh.
While we're at it Muse, they like Queen and Radiohead and a big epic sound, does that really justify the next second coming tag they've received of late.
PJ, AIC both have taken influence from other areas but they inject their own personality into their music and give it the unmistakable stamp of individuality.
AIC sound to me more original than Nirvana, lets face it it their a great more amped version of the Pixies.
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so tell me.. what bands am i required to love and enjoy.. being a PJ fan and all
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I could care less who you love and enjoy, but saying every other English band sounds the same is a big stretch. Just because you don't like a band, doesn't mean they aren't original. I really don't care for Pink Floyd all that much because I don't find some of their meanderings enjoyable or awe-inspiring like some people, but I would never go as far as to they were unoriginal.
I think I just peed 3 drops from laughing.
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bullshit. name 5. or one.
radiohead are compltely original. if you don't like their music, fine, but don't claim they aren't original. no one had done ok computer or kid a before them. no one.
you're being sarcastic right? how is led zeppelin not original? they are like THE basis for heavy metal. sure, they covered some established blues songs but they made them completely fresh with their arrangements. jimmy page on guitar and john bonham on drums are two wholly oriiginal artists putting their spin on those established songs... plus the led zeppelin originals are classics. what do you mean they are unoriginal?
I totally agree with you on the Alice In Chains!
Remember how horrible music was when Facelift came out?
Unskinny bop bop.... she's my cherry pie...... then out of know where came .......I'm a man in a box........
That was huge!!!
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The Cavern Beatles
The Counterfeit Stones
Voodoo Child
MJ Trainier - A Tribute To Elvis (down my local boozer, a few years back: mind you, I liked the red Christmas-light thing he had going on, in his collar)
I love Tears for Fears
but quite frankly Depeche Mode, Roxy Music, Spandau Ballet, and the original Human League lineup, echo and the Bunnymen, all preceeded the TFF synth pop sound.
I wouldn't call them original...but The Hurting is an awesome underrated album
no way
BHC is cool but not exactly original they have that Faith No More/Mr Bungle vibe all over. I like em, don't get me wrong, I can't call them original.
wow...great response. i mean you really explained very well what is so unoriginal about these bands. their music goes nowhere and it sounds like every other english band? good explanation. proves the point that you have no point....and if you do maybe you should elaborate cause i just see a bunch of words mashed together but you really aren't saying anything.
wow. ignorance. that's the only word i can think of. you should just stop commenting on this thread. you just tried to pick apart 4 of the greatest rock bands of all time. how can you be such a big pearl jam fan and not at least appreciate all of these bands? where do you think pearl jam came from? you don't have to go buy all their albums but at least give them some credit.............oh and to say that every english band since tears for fears has tried to rip them off is another ridiculous statement. i must say that there aren't a whole lot of english bands since the 80's that i would consider myself a fan of. i love radiohead, and i like oasis, probably a few other, but who are all these bands you are saying rip off tears for fears?
Perhaps, it's because you didn't turn your hearing aid on.
None of those 4 sound anything alike.
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godsmack - first band i thought of, they would be a less obvious aic rip-off if they stayed a coverband
led zeppelin - ok this will draw fire but these guys did almost nothing but rip off blues songs, they could just played them better.
system of downs - almost every song ive heard he is trying to be jello. listen to dead kennedys drug me and one tool song then you have nearly all of soad catalog.
puddle of mudd - ok you are not kurt cobain, sorry.
nickelback -they might be more unoriginal then godsmack
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alot of people think this ....not just me
2. Pepper - Bradley Nowell is spinning in his grave right now.
3. Creed - No need to explain do I?
4. Wolfmother - Even though I like them
5. Jack Johnson - Another one that I like, but not very original.
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Whether or not you like Audioslave they sounded nothing like any other band, including their antecedents.
C'mon man that new WS single sounds exactly like a zep song with shit drumming.
Creed
Nickleback
Hinder
Puddle of Mudd
Staind
anyway
i have always hated nickleback for their terrible unoriginality.
creed as well.
chris daughtry had potential. he blew it by miles. now he is complete garbage. you know, any tv show audition thing i think turns out to always be shit, but with that said i saw him and thought, well he seems like a good guy who loves music and he could sing. but in the back of my mind i knew what would happen so i never watched again. and what happened? yep he turned to generic bullshit. dont you love americanshitassidol? it's good for other genres, but for rock, it is just pointless. kills the cause of the music.
lastly, i'd like to say bowling for soup, all american rejects, hinder, fall-out boy, hawthorne heights, taking back sunday and all those type of bands. why? because they all sound EXACTLY THE SAME and they all sound like WHINY SHITS.
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2012: Philly (MIA Fest)
2013: Worcester 2, Brooklyn 1 & 2, Hartford
its not that. its that they tried to pass alot of it off as their own. elvis never said he wrote those songs. they are still credited to the actually writer.
Creed
Lifehouse
The Calling
Oasis
And one for luck:
Razorlight
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Radiohead and white stripes unoriginal ????? I don´t get it
Oasis, Coldplay etc, you get no complaint from me there but you clearly haven't got a clue with Radiohead.
Sound like every other whiny english band, for fuck sake's Radiohead head and shoulders over all English bands and most of US ones as well. If only a handful of bands were as brave and evolving as Radiohead we'd have a more healthy UK music scene instead of the copy cats we have at the moment.
Just you don't like it doesn't make it unoriginal, think about the question and try come up with an intelligent answer.
The Strokes: ripping off the Ramones & Velvet Underground does not make a unique original sound
Razorlight: what a fuckin joke, we get it you've heard Marquee Moon and some early U2 get something original material Borrell you ugly egostical wanker.
Arctic Monkeys: while agree that the singer has a poetic talent for lyrics this is nothing new, Difford & Tilbrook were doing the same thing in the squeeze over 20 years ago and Jarvis Cocker in the 90's with Pulp, The music is also nothing fresh yes a talented band but ceratinly anywhere Radioheads level.
Too much fuss is made of bands in the UK, I think music journalist have given up on requiring originality to make a band any good and rehashing the past with out putting something of yourself into is quite ok and shouldbe critically acclaimed.
You might think Radiohead have gone off the map, personally I don't but I'd rather have a collection of music which has some diversity as opposed to carbon copies with no desire to give us anything fresh.
While we're at it Muse, they like Queen and Radiohead and a big epic sound, does that really justify the next second comming tag they've received of late.
PJ, AIC both have taken influence from other areas but they inject their own personality into their music and give it the unmistakable stamp of individuality.
AIC sound to me more original than Nirvana, lets face it it their a great more amped version of the Pixies.
Oasis, Coldplay etc, you get no complaint from me there but you clearly haven't got a clue with Radiohead.
Sound like every other whiny english band, for fuck sake's Radiohead head and shoulders over all English bands and most of US ones as well. If only a handful of bands were as brave and evolving as Radiohead we'd have a more healthy UK music scene instead of the copy cats we have at the moment.
Just you don't like it doesn't make it unoriginal, think about the question and try come up with an intelligent answer.
The Strokes: ripping off the Ramones & Velvet Underground does not make a unique original sound
Razorlight: what a fuckin joke, we get it you've heard Marquee Moon and some early U2 get something original material Borrell you ugly egostical wanker.
Arctic Monkeys: while agree that the singer has a poetic talent for lyrics this is nothing new, Difford & Tilbrook were doing the same thing in the squeeze over 20 years ago and Jarvis Cocker in the 90's with Pulp, The music is also nothing fresh yes a talented band but certainly anywhere near Radiohead's level.
Too much fuss is made of bands in the UK, I think music journalist have given up on requiring originality to make a band any good and rehashing the past with out putting something of yourself into is quite ok and should be critically acclaimed.
You might think Radiohead have gone off the map, personally I don't but I'd rather have a collection of music which has some diversity as opposed to carbon copies with no desire to give us anything fresh.
While we're at it Muse, they like Queen and Radiohead and a big epic sound, does that really justify the next second coming tag they've received of late.
PJ, AIC both have taken influence from other areas but they inject their own personality into their music and give it the unmistakable stamp of individuality.
AIC sound to me more original than Nirvana, lets face it it their a great more amped version of the Pixies.