Funny you mention that because I'm listening to AWAKE right now....
Hands down the best "greatest hits" CD I own.
Disclaimer: I never bought the PJ greatest hits CD - it seemed unnecessary to me - so that's why LIVE wins out...
It just mixes together so well - the very good songs from Mental Jewelry (Pain Lies on the Riverside is painfully good) along with the stuff most everyone else knows - you can't beat it...
What about the included TC-outtake 'We Deal In Dreams'? That one is awesome, altho the original demo of the song with only bass and drums is almost better. It has that dusty sound, which is great.
I like driving backwards in the fog, 'cause it doesn't remind of anything...
There's another TC outtake called Lift Me Up which you can hear at Ed Kowalczyk's own personal website... Great fucking song that I can't believe I had never heard until a few weeks ago...
There's another TC outtake called Lift Me Up which you can hear at Ed Kowalczyk's own personal website... Great fucking song that I can't believe I had never heard until a few weeks ago...
There's so many more out there...
I like driving backwards in the fog, 'cause it doesn't remind of anything...
But where do you find them??? I've had a hard time coming across them. I've got Vine Street (don't think that's TC, though) and Don't Wait... what else am I missing?
great album. because they put out this album alone they shouldn't be on blender's 100 worst rock bands list. sinful.
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great album. because they put out this album alone they shouldn't be on blender's 100 worst rock bands list. sinful.
Blender is a bullsh-t magazzine that wants to be Maxim/FHM/Stuff with a hint of Rolling Stone/Kerrang but they can't and just turn out screwed up.
P.S: They might be joking cause, Skinny Puppy, Nine Inch Nails, and The Doors were also on the list, however Creed being on the list shows signs of sincerity.
No shit - you'd be hard pressed to find a better string of albums than: MENTAL JEWELRY-THROWING COPPER-SECRET SAMADHI-THE DISTANCE TO HERE...
Fuck - those four albums make for a better career than 90 percent of rock bands...
I have never loved Mental Jewelry (except for the 3 singles)----but I do agree with this statement 100%. Copper through Distance is one of the best 3 albums stretches any band has ever had (yes there have been a lot of good stretches, but this one definitely ranks). Along with that, Birds and V each have more than enough good material to warrant purchase (I haven't got the new one yet).
But, if I am not mistaken, Live has always gotten bad reviews.
Now a little off topic...
I know it is kind of cliche to say, but who in the world is more useless than critics? Really. Every summer movie critics are yapping about how they matter despite the fact that the blockbuster they gave a "2 star" review to made $200,000,000. Throwing Copper got terrible reviews ( I remember reading some of them and laughing then) , but it has sold like 6 million copies . And here we are THIRTEEN years later still discussing it. Yeah, keep telling yourselves that your $60,000 communications degree is being put to good use, you blowhards!
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Its a great album and the best songs (Stage, Shit Towne, Waitress, White Discussion) never got any radio play (swears may have played a part in that).
Was just listening to it the other night for the first time in a while.
i've actually heard white, discussion on the radio quite a lot on dc101 in washington... don't know if that's just like a regional thing or what, but i do recall hearing it a lot. but i agree, it's a great fucking song.
Throwing Copper is the best thing, second only to my coveted Pearl Jam albums. Pure classic! T.B.D and Pillar of Davidson give me chills like no other songs. I don't care much for any of their other albums except for Distance to Here witch is also pretty damn good.
More then a good record. Its a classic record, Im a huge Live fan all there albums are good. Go buy there new record, songs from black mountain. Very beautiful record.
Songs from a Black Mountain is good? You must be drunk. That record is terrible.
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I just saw Live for the first time last month in Halifax. The band put on a kickass show but it was so poorly attended (2000-3000 in a 10000 seat arena). That didn't stop the band from delivering though. You had to feel a little bad for them.
that truly is a masterpiece ,,its also on awake~the best of live..he even does a little tribute to johnny cash with i walk the line...and he sings runaway with shelby lynn on the awake cd
awake is great! the only song i ever skip over is 'the color of gray'.
after reading this thread, i'm going to go buy 'throwing copper'
I think Mental jewellery and Throwing copper are good albums. Like some have mentioned Throwing copper is a classic, too bad they went down hill from there. Secret Samadhi was alright, but after that they just drifted away from what I like in Throwing Copper.
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You’re on the outside, never bound by such a spell.
Together in the darkness, alone in the light.
I took it upon me to be yours, Timmy,
I’ll lead your angels and demons at play tonight......»
yeah Throwing Copper is no doubt a classic album, i didnt mind a few of their later albums, The distance to here was okay, had some moments, but after that album i wasnt overly impressed all though i did buy V.
I love Live, and 'Throwing Copper' is undoubtedly my favourite album of theirs. Saw them live twice, once on Secret Samahdi tour and once earlier this year. Although later albums are not as good as 'Copper', when you hear them play the new stuff live it kicks ass - just somehow doesn't translate onto CD.
I think Secret Samahdi,V and Throwing Copper are great, but the others have great songs on them too. Birds of Pray did smell slightly of cheese tho as Ed clearly went through a god stage... never good... "I don't need anyone to tell me 'bout heaven, I look at my daughter and I believe" Hmmmmmm.
Throwing Copper is one of my personal favorites. I remember the days of it's constant radio play. Wow, were those the days. Good music on the radio. Fast forward 10 years or so and look what we have now. I wish we could go back.
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yeah i love the live run to the water he does from the chapel or somewhere like that and all his acoustic stuff....oh and another good song,,,turn my head off secret samdhi..damn..overcome gives me chills ,tho' ..
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But where do you find them??? I've had a hard time coming across them. I've got Vine Street (don't think that's TC, though) and Don't Wait... what else am I missing?
they also have death of a dictionary..not sure how many tunes on it...and before they were LIVE they were Public affection
...It's only after disaster that we can be resurrected...
it's only after you've lost everything ...that you are free to do anything....(Fight Club)
Throwing Copper is the best thing, second only to my coveted Pearl Jam albums. Pure classic! T.B.D and Pillar of Davidson give me chills like no other songs. I don't care much for any of their other albums except for Distance to Here witch is also pretty damn good.
Iris is good also... rattlesnake...unsheathed....10,000 years(peace is now) grows on ya.lol..run away is AWESOME..yeah and freaks...white,discussion,man so many...love v too...
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it's only after you've lost everything ...that you are free to do anything....(Fight Club)
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Hands down the best "greatest hits" CD I own.
Disclaimer: I never bought the PJ greatest hits CD - it seemed unnecessary to me - so that's why LIVE wins out...
It just mixes together so well - the very good songs from Mental Jewelry (Pain Lies on the Riverside is painfully good) along with the stuff most everyone else knows - you can't beat it...
There's so many more out there...
we sit around and wonder exactly why our marriage should feel threatened by gay marriage
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No shit - you'd be hard pressed to find a better string of albums than: MENTAL JEWELRY-THROWING COPPER-SECRET SAMADHI-THE DISTANCE TO HERE...
Fuck - those four albums make for a better career than 90 percent of rock bands...
Blender is a bullsh-t magazzine that wants to be Maxim/FHM/Stuff with a hint of Rolling Stone/Kerrang but they can't and just turn out screwed up.
P.S: They might be joking cause, Skinny Puppy, Nine Inch Nails, and The Doors were also on the list, however Creed being on the list shows signs of sincerity.
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not a blender fan BUT every so often they hit the nail on the head....right on the money in this case (sorry Live fans)
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I have never loved Mental Jewelry (except for the 3 singles)----but I do agree with this statement 100%. Copper through Distance is one of the best 3 albums stretches any band has ever had (yes there have been a lot of good stretches, but this one definitely ranks). Along with that, Birds and V each have more than enough good material to warrant purchase (I haven't got the new one yet).
But, if I am not mistaken, Live has always gotten bad reviews.
Now a little off topic...
I know it is kind of cliche to say, but who in the world is more useless than critics? Really. Every summer movie critics are yapping about how they matter despite the fact that the blockbuster they gave a "2 star" review to made $200,000,000. Throwing Copper got terrible reviews ( I remember reading some of them and laughing then) , but it has sold like 6 million copies . And here we are THIRTEEN years later still discussing it. Yeah, keep telling yourselves that your $60,000 communications degree is being put to good use, you blowhards!
we sit around and wonder exactly why our marriage should feel threatened by gay marriage
i've actually heard white, discussion on the radio quite a lot on dc101 in washington... don't know if that's just like a regional thing or what, but i do recall hearing it a lot. but i agree, it's a great fucking song.
Songs from a Black Mountain is good? You must be drunk. That record is terrible.
There ARE very 4 good songs on that record, 2 so-so songs, and the rest are mediocre to bad...
Doesn't mean I love this band any less...
after reading this thread, i'm going to go buy 'throwing copper'
How can you skip over "Beauty of Gray"????? Amazing song...
You’re on the outside, never bound by such a spell.
Together in the darkness, alone in the light.
I took it upon me to be yours, Timmy,
I’ll lead your angels and demons at play tonight......»
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I think Secret Samahdi,V and Throwing Copper are great, but the others have great songs on them too. Birds of Pray did smell slightly of cheese tho as Ed clearly went through a god stage... never good... "I don't need anyone to tell me 'bout heaven, I look at my daughter and I believe" Hmmmmmm.
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yeah i love the live run to the water he does from the chapel or somewhere like that and all his acoustic stuff....oh and another good song,,,turn my head off secret samdhi..damn..overcome gives me chills ,tho' ..
it's only after you've lost everything ...that you are free to do anything....(Fight Club)
... I'll ride the wave...where it takes me....
cuz theres so MANY ...also all over you and sellin the drama ... unsheathed...one of my ffavorites is . gas hed goes west off secret samdhi
it's only after you've lost everything ...that you are free to do anything....(Fight Club)
... I'll ride the wave...where it takes me....
they also have death of a dictionary..not sure how many tunes on it...and before they were LIVE they were Public affection
it's only after you've lost everything ...that you are free to do anything....(Fight Club)
... I'll ride the wave...where it takes me....
Iris is good also... rattlesnake...unsheathed....10,000 years(peace is now) grows on ya.lol..run away is AWESOME..yeah and freaks...white,discussion,man so many...love v too...
it's only after you've lost everything ...that you are free to do anything....(Fight Club)
... I'll ride the wave...where it takes me....
Birds of Pray - Unbelievable piece of shit. What the fuck happened?
There are a few standout tracks on BOP, too - but overall, it is a lesser effort...
But it did give us songs lie Rivertown and Like I Do...