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Recently discovered so much great metal

harmless_little_f***harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
edited October 2008 in Other Music
It's taken 26 years of my life to get into real metal, but better late than never.

Pantera
Sepultura
Cavallera Conspiracy
Down
Meshuggah
Gojira
Between the Buried and Me
The Dillinger Escape Plan
Mastodon

... all totally amazing. Here's to the next 20 bands I hear for the first time.

Edit: Oops, wrong forum. Ah well.
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

- the great Sir Leo Harrison
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  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    did you get a metal detector for your birthday?
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • harmless_little_f***harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    dunkman wrote:
    did you get a metal detector for your birthday?

    Yes.... it's quite a hobby. I'm in HMV detecting metal like every day. I think I found the holy grail under the carpet but a group of kids wouldn't get out of the way of Guitar Hero for me to have a look.
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Death Mark, listen to Death (the band, not the genre of metal, although they are considered the originators of the genre so... oh god, this is confusing)

    Listen to Human, Symbolic and The Sound of Perseverance. SO good.

    Also the vocals are more shouted than growled which is novel for death metal and good if you're still a metal newbie :)
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    black label society, hands down badass
    strength, determination, merciless, forever....
    that's their theme and a song.....


    good night, Mark
    im out...

    and welcome to the metal...it is awesome having you :D
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • harmless_little_f***harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Death Mark, listen to Death (the band, not the genre of metal, although they are considered the originators of the genre so... oh god, this is confusing)

    Listen to Human, Symbolic and The Sound of Perseverance. SO good.

    Also the vocals are more shouted than growled which is novel for death metal and good if you're still a metal newbie :)

    Cool.. will do :) although they keep selling out of stuff every time I go into my HMV... I was about to get Dillinger Escape Plan. I decided against it. Went to get it two days later and *poof*.... And they have a Mastodon slot but no cds in it... that's annoying! :mad: No wonder metalheads are angry.
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • JennytreeJennytree Posts: 5,340
    Nevermooooore!

    And I second BLS. Get thyself to Last.fm - great for picking up new bands :)

    I'm loving me some Doom Metal at the moment for all my sitting in a darkened room needs!

    ETA: The metal section in shops is crap - they've put Pearl Jam in there now
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  • harmless_little_f***harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    Jennytree wrote:
    Nevermooooore!

    And I second BLS. Get thyself to Last.fm - great for picking up new bands :)

    I'm loving me some Doom Metal at the moment for all my sitting in a darkened room needs!

    ETA: The metal section in shops is crap - they've put Pearl Jam in there now

    I also don't entirely get what all these genres about.

    What's the difference between Death and Doom? Doom and Black?

    Sludge? Grind-core? Math-core? Hardcore?

    I have figured out I'm not a huge fan of thrash. I just find it boring. :)
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • Gossard_Is_GodGossard_Is_God Posts: 1,031
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    Yes.... it's quite a hobby. I'm in HMV detecting metal like every day. I think I found the holy grail under the carpet but a group of kids wouldn't get out of the way of Guitar Hero for me to have a look.

    Meshuggah are from my gf's hometown, what HMV do you go?
    Pearl Jam - London Astoria 20/4/06....One hell of a night :)

    Reading 2006 - WOOOOW!!!!!

    Paris 2006 - Fucking amazing

    Wembley 2007 :D
  • harmless_little_f***harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    Gossard_Is_God wrote:
    Meshuggah are from my gf's hometown, what HMV do you go?

    I live in West London
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • JennytreeJennytree Posts: 5,340
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    I also don't entirely get what all these genres about.

    What's the difference between Death and Doom? Doom and Black?

    Sludge? Grind-core? Math-core? Hardcore?

    I have figured out I'm not a huge fan of thrash. I just find it boring. :)

    Don't get bogged down on genre's now. You will notice it as you get more into it which genre's you do like more. For me, I love Doom, Sludge, Heavy/Thrash, some Death and Black metal - I detest anything that ends in -core ;) And I think Viking metal is shite :D (except for Amon Amarth). The likes of Immortal tend to dissolve into a mass of noise after the first minute, and that (to me) is not cool :)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heavy_metal_genres
    http://metalhumor.blogspot.com/2007/04/101-rules-of-metal-genres.html
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  • TrailerTrailer Posts: 1,431
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    It's taken 26 years of my life to get into real metal, but better late than never.

    Pantera
    Sepultura
    Cavallera Conspiracy
    Down
    Meshuggah
    Gojira
    Between the Buried and Me
    The Dillinger Escape Plan
    Mastodon

    ... all totally amazing. Here's to the next 20 bands I hear for the first time.

    Edit: Oops, wrong forum. Ah well.

    Pantera is correctly placed at the top of your list.:) Too bad you never got to see them... they put on one hell of a show!!!

    Megadeth is another band you should check out... preferbly the older stuff. I haven't heard any of their stuff after Youthanasia, so I can't vouch for them, but Rust in Peace and Countdown to Extinction are two great albums.
    Whoa, chill bro... you know you can't raise your voice like that when the lion's here.
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    What's the difference between Death and Doom? Doom and Black? Sludge? Grind-core? Math-core? Hardcore?


    the difference between them is they all vary slightly in level of shitness. :)
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • kenshuntkenshunt London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,863
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    It's taken 26 years of my life to get into real metal, but better late than never.

    Pantera
    Sepultura
    Cavallera Conspiracy
    Down
    Meshuggah
    Gojira
    Between the Buried and Me
    The Dillinger Escape Plan
    Mastodon

    ... all totally amazing. Here's to the next 20 bands I hear for the first time.

    Edit: Oops, wrong forum. Ah well.
    try Soulfly, u like cavallera conspiracy and sepultura, well max also does vocals on soulfly albums
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  • Dismantle The SunDismantle The Sun Posts: 139
    Thanks for the link to the genres of metal.
    My favourites are progressive metal as I'm really into Opeth, Dream Theatre, etc.

    It's good to discover new music.
    Pack up the moon and dismantle the sun - W.H. Auden
  • RAT!RAT! Posts: 115
    Check out some High On Fire, Sleep, Kylesa, Big Business, the first 4 Metallica
    albums,Black Sabbath,Book Of Black Earth, Melvins, Boris... the list cold go on
    and on really
  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    I also don't entirely get what all these genres about.

    What's the difference between Death and Doom? Doom and Black?

    Sludge? Grind-core? Math-core? Hardcore?

    I have figured out I'm not a huge fan of thrash. I just find it boring. :)
    Death metal is typified by fast, technical guitar playing, blast beat drum rhythms and low, growling vocals. Black metal has repetitive guitar riffs, fast rhythms, typically low production values and HIGH PITCHED shrieking vocals (that's the main difference between death and black). Doom metal is sloooooow, heavy crushing riffs, none of the technicality of death or black metal, atmosphere is everything. Sludge is similar riffs but not as slow and atmospheric, more chugging, grindcore is essentially hardcore punk but played at 33rpm instead of 45, lower vocals, lower tuned guitars etc. Mathcore is metal with mental time signatutes etc, hardcore is just a bastardised version of hardcore punk which I can tell you ALL about in another thread.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    dunkman wrote:
    the difference between them is they all vary slightly in level of shitness. :)
    No one likes that person Duncan. Don't be that person :)
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    Trailer wrote:
    Pantera is correctly placed at the top of your list.:) Too bad you never got to see them... they put on one hell of a show!!!

    Megadeth is another band you should check out... preferbly the older stuff. I haven't heard any of their stuff after Youthanasia, so I can't vouch for them, but Rust in Peace and Countdown to Extinction are two great albums.

    megadeth rocks
    old & new
    imo, alot of the new stuff is more intelligently written lyrically....
    perhaps because dave is drug/booze free...so he says anyway.
    megadeth has some pretty awesome lyrics turned to sound....
    pretty much genius to my notion...

    btw, imo....youthanasia is one fantastic cd...
    the live dual cd "rude awakening" is ass kickin.
    i have the "rude awakening" dvd as well.... brutal, just fucking brutal
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222
    Jennytree wrote:
    Nevermooooore!

    And I second BLS. Get thyself to Last.fm - great for picking up new bands :)

    I'm loving me some Doom Metal at the moment for all my sitting in a darkened room needs!

    ETA: The metal section in shops is crap - they've put Pearl Jam in there now

    :D haha, yeah the same bullshit they do in London's Virginmegastore section. It makes me chuckle every time i see bad ass heavy metal bands and much softer in sound Pearl Jam, it's like what the fuck are those idiots thinking?
  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Death metal is typified by fast, technical guitar playing, blast beat drum rhythms and low, growling vocals. Black metal has repetitive guitar riffs, fast rhythms, typically low production values and HIGH PITCHED shrieking vocals (that's the main difference between death and black). Doom metal is sloooooow, heavy crushing riffs, none of the technicality of death or black metal, atmosphere is everything. Sludge is similar riffs but not as slow and atmospheric, more chugging, grindcore is essentially hardcore punk but played at 33rpm instead of 45, lower vocals, lower tuned guitars etc. Mathcore is metal with mental time signatutes etc, hardcore is just a bastardised version of hardcore punk which I can tell you ALL about in another thread.

    awesome description :)
  • Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,567
    Mastodon
    Pantera
    Sepultura

    :D:D:D:D:D
  • TrailerTrailer Posts: 1,431
    chadwick wrote:
    megadeth rocks
    old & new
    imo, alot of the new stuff is more intelligently written lyrically....
    perhaps because dave is drug/booze free...so he says anyway.
    megadeth has some pretty awesome lyrics turned to sound....
    pretty much genius to my notion...

    btw, imo....youthanasia is one fantastic cd...
    the live dual cd "rude awakening" is ass kickin.
    i have the "rude awakening" dvd as well.... brutal, just fucking brutal

    Yeah I like Youthanasia a lot!! Those first two songs to kick off the record are fucking BRUTAL:cool:
    Whoa, chill bro... you know you can't raise your voice like that when the lion's here.
  • NewDamageNewDamage Posts: 1,913
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Death Mark, listen to Death (the band, not the genre of metal, although they are considered the originators of the genre so... oh god, this is confusing)

    Listen to Human, Symbolic and The Sound of Perseverance. SO good.

    Also the vocals are more shouted than growled which is novel for death metal and good if you're still a metal newbie :)
    Well Chuck's voice changed by Symbolic, and it was less of a growl but the vocals were definitely growl-like on the first 5 albums. Not like say, Deicide, though. And by The Sound of Perseverance his voice was at a point that he could do Priest's "Painkiller" justice.

    But you left out Individual Thought Patterns, which is probably their technical crowning achievement. Awesome songwriting!
    I am lost, I'm no guide. But I'm by your side...

    8/25/92, 10/4/96, 10/5/96, 9/1/98, 9/4/98, 8/4/00, 8/6/00, 4/15/03, 4/16/03, 10/6/04, 6/16/08
  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    NewDamage wrote:
    Well Chuck's voice changed by Symbolic, and it was less of a growl but the vocals were definitely growl-like on the first 5 albums. Not like say, Deicide, though. And by The Sound of Perseverance his voice was at a point that he could do Priest's "Painkiller" justice.

    But you left out Individual Thought Patterns, which is probably their technical crowning achievement. Awesome songwriting!
    Yeah, I know Chuck did some growls but I'm thinking like, in terms of comparison with Lord Worm from Cryptopsy or something, it's much more accessible :)

    I haven't heard Individual Thought Patterns yet. I'll remedy this as soon as possible.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • NewDamageNewDamage Posts: 1,913
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    I haven't heard Individual Thought Patterns yet. I'll remedy this as soon as possible.

    Yeah, if you like Human and Symbolic that album is like the missing link. He had Steve DiGiorgio on bass, Andy Larocque from King Diamond's band on guitar, and the mighty Gene Hoglan on drums. Fucking classic!

    The opening track...Overactive Imagination
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYy2bki-q9E
    I am lost, I'm no guide. But I'm by your side...

    8/25/92, 10/4/96, 10/5/96, 9/1/98, 9/4/98, 8/4/00, 8/6/00, 4/15/03, 4/16/03, 10/6/04, 6/16/08
  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    NewDamage wrote:
    Yeah, if you like Human and Symbolic that album is like the missing link. He had Steve DiGiorgio on bass, Andy Larocque from King Diamond's band on guitar, and the mighty Gene Hoglan on drums. Fucking classic!

    The opening track...Overactive Imagination
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYy2bki-q9E
    Holy shit... the bass on that :eek:

    Hoglan is always incredible too.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • NewDamageNewDamage Posts: 1,913
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Holy shit... the bass on that :eek:
    Yep, Steve DiGiorgio is fucking sick! He does all that on a fretless. The bass on the whole album is like that.
    I am lost, I'm no guide. But I'm by your side...

    8/25/92, 10/4/96, 10/5/96, 9/1/98, 9/4/98, 8/4/00, 8/6/00, 4/15/03, 4/16/03, 10/6/04, 6/16/08
  • NewDamageNewDamage Posts: 1,913
    Trailer wrote:
    Megadeth is another band you should check out... preferbly the older stuff. I haven't heard any of their stuff after Youthanasia, so I can't vouch for them, but Rust in Peace and Countdown to Extinction are two great albums.
    You definitely want to check out The System Has Failed and United Abominations. They are more in the classic Megadeth vein, particularly the latter.

    Cryptic Writings was a solid album, with a good mixture of heavier and radio friendly material. Risk is the one the entire fanbase hates. It was just too much of a departure. Its Megadeth's version of Cornell's "Scream", though not as much of a radical change. The World Needs a Hero was a half-assed attempt to get heavy again, and save a few songs, its just boring.
    I am lost, I'm no guide. But I'm by your side...

    8/25/92, 10/4/96, 10/5/96, 9/1/98, 9/4/98, 8/4/00, 8/6/00, 4/15/03, 4/16/03, 10/6/04, 6/16/08
  • intodeepintodeep Posts: 7,240
    RAT! wrote:
    Kylesa,

    Nice shout out to a cool Savannah band, but another one from the same city i love is Baroness.
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  • TrailerTrailer Posts: 1,431
    NewDamage wrote:
    You definitely want to check out The System Has Failed and United Abominations. They are more in the classic Megadeth vein, particularly the latter.

    Cryptic Writings was a solid album, with a good mixture of heavier and radio friendly material. Risk is the one the entire fanbase hates. It was just too much of a departure. Its Megadeth's version of Cornell's "Scream", though not as much of a radical change. The World Needs a Hero was a half-assed attempt to get heavy again, and save a few songs, its just boring.

    cool.. i'll check them out.
    Whoa, chill bro... you know you can't raise your voice like that when the lion's here.
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