why did STP break up?

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  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    SoonForgotten2 wrote:
    I thought Tiny Music was dreadful. This, to me, was the result of drug abuse wrecking someone's talent and ability. They broke up after that mess of an album and their return, No 4 was a great album. To me it holds it's own alongside Core and Purple. Tiny Music was the worst thing Weiland ever recorded before VR.

    Just my opinion, but i thought Tiny Music was awsome BECAUSE Weiland was so fucked up on drugs. I'm surprised you like Purple and not Tiny Music, I kinda think of them togther quite often.
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  • otis mcfluster
    otis mcfluster Posts: 536
    Scott Weiland = Scott Sapp
  • yosi1
    yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    SoonForgotten2 wrote:
    I thought Tiny Music was dreadful. This, to me, was the result of drug abuse wrecking someone's talent and ability. They broke up after that mess of an album and their return, No 4 was a great album. To me it holds it's own alongside Core and Purple. Tiny Music was the worst thing Weiland ever recorded before VR.

    To each his/her own. I'm a massive STP fan, probably one of the bigger STP fans left, and I'd say that TM is my favorite STP album. I think some of the songs, and vocals are just beautiful. Its obviously drug influenced, but that doesn't matter. I really think the peaked with that album. And for me No.4 always felt a little disappointing. There are some great songs, but the production isn't great, and the whole album just feels rushed (and it was becasue they wanted to put it out as fast as possible because of Scott's whole jail debacle). I think if they had spent more time on it, it would have been a much stronger album (Just to be clear, I still love it). I think SLDD was a step back in the right direction, and had they put another album, it would have been amazing.
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    Just my opinion, but i thought Tiny Music was awsome BECAUSE Weiland was so fucked up on drugs. I'm surprised you like Purple and not Tiny Music, I kinda think of them togther quite often.

    Agreed.
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  • yosi1
    yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    otis mcfluster wrote:
    Scott Weiland = Scott Sapp

    You = ignorant.
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  • Atomic Punk
    Atomic Punk Posts: 2,941
    otis mcfluster wrote:
    Scott Weiland = Scott Sapp
    one of the dumbest things I have ever read
  • otis mcfluster
    otis mcfluster Posts: 536
    Atomic Punk wrote:
    one of the dumbest things I have ever read
    yosi wrote:
    You = ignorant.
    Come on fellas, why the all the animosity? Is it because part of you knows it's true?

    It is a simple syllogism really:

    Sapp = ass clown making horribly generic cliché music
    Weiland = ass clown making horribly generic cliché music

    Therefore, Sapp = Weiland.
  • yosi1
    yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    otis mcfluster wrote:
    Come on fellas, why the all the animosity? Is it because part of you knows it's true?

    It is a simple syllogism really:

    Sapp = ass clown making horribly generic cliché music
    Weiland = ass clown making horribly generic cliché music

    Therefore, Sapp = Weiland.

    And that's exactly why I stand by my earlier comment, and totally agree with Atomic Punk.

    You have no idea what you're talking about.
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  • otis mcfluster
    otis mcfluster Posts: 536
    yosi wrote:
    And that's exactly why I stand by my earlier comment, and totally agree with Atomic Punk.

    You have no idea what you're talking about.
    Come on, like I'm gonna take two Scott Sapp fans serious.
  • Hands bound
    Hands bound Posts: 534
    otis mcfluster wrote:
    Come on fellas, why the all the animosity? Is it because part of you knows it's true?

    It is a simple syllogism really:

    Sapp = ass clown making horribly generic cliché music
    Weiland = ass clown making horribly generic cliché music

    Therefore, Sapp = Weiland.

    Now that is something I haven't heard before.

    Listen to 12 bar blues and tell me that Weiland is just "generic".
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  • Arctangent
    Arctangent Posts: 614
    early on in their career stp were accused of ripping pearl jam off. that always put me off them. and the fact they were shite!

    ;)
  • yosi1
    yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    Hands bound wrote:
    Now that is something I haven't heard before.

    Listen to 12 bar blues and tell me that Weiland is just "generic".

    Listen to any post Core STP and tell me Weiland is generic. He doesn't even sound anything like Stapp or Vedder. Its ignorant because he just doesn't have any idea what he's talking about.
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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,168
    they broke up because scott's a dick and put partying before the band
    the serious musicians in the group didnt like that

    damn shame, purple is one of my favorite rock records and the were a great band
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,168
    otis mcfluster wrote:
    Come on fellas, why the all the animosity? Is it because part of you knows it's true?

    It is a simple syllogism really:

    Sapp = ass clown making horribly generic cliché music
    Weiland = ass clown making horribly generic cliché music

    Therefore, Sapp = Weiland.

    STP has just a tad more substance than creed

    they only similarity is that they both got famous with songs that sound like pearl jam
  • Arctangent
    Arctangent Posts: 614
    Get_Right wrote:
    STP has just a tad more substance than creed

    that is not saying much, is it. damning with faint praise!
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,168
    Arctangent wrote:
    that is not saying much, is it. damning with faint praise!

    i was being sarcastic
    and you really should listen to purple great fucking record
  • yosi1
    yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    Get_Right wrote:
    i was being sarcastic
    and you really should listen to purple great fucking record

    I'll second that. Also, the Pearl Jam comparison is so lame. If you listen to most of Core, its clear that comparison is weak, and if you listen to anything past Core, it just doesn't make sense. As someone who loves both bands pretty equally, I can say that the comparison is bad.
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  • Soupy
    Soupy Posts: 171
    Core - 6/10
    Purple - 7/10
    Tiny Music - 7/10
    {12 Bar Blues - 4/10}
    {Talk Show - 3/10}
    Number 4 - 5/10
    Shangri-La Dee Da - 3/10

    For me they were a band very much in decline, I wasn't too bothered when they split-up. Velvet Revolver first album was awful and i've not heard anything by Army of Anyone.
  • Milestone
    Milestone Posts: 1,143
    Soupy wrote:
    Velvet Revolver first album was awful and i've not heard anything by Army of Anyone.

    Disagree.
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  • tonadax
    tonadax Posts: 594
    just try PURPLE, one of the most diverse/innovative albums of 90´s, it´s totally diferent to core...
  • DCGARDEN
    DCGARDEN Posts: 515
    I was not crazy about STP when Plush / Core broke big, it was the album Purple that made me love them.

    Tiny Music is very under-rated, No.4 sucked, and Shangri-La was very, very good.

    So I have listened to a lot of STP over the years - AND a lot of GNR

    Velvet Revolver's Contraband sounded like Tiny Music with heavier guitars and some excellent Solos by Slash

    Libertad is going to end up a very, very forgettable album. There is nothing exciting going on there, and someone kidnapped the real Slash and replaced him with someone else.

    Army of Anyone album was terrible , I thought.

    Axl's new GNR stuff sounds better than anything above with the exception of Slither which is a Rock orgasm
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