they are playing in calgary the same night of my cousin's wedding 30 km's away. saw them in 2008 at least.
Faaaaack. I have fourth row tickets to slash that night. Didn't know they were coming back to Calgary. Might have to sell the slash tickets and go....but then I've never seen slash play live either. I saw BM with Hoon (and PJ and NY) in 93 but missed out on my one chance to see the new lineup in Edmonton due to thinking I could get will call tickets at a bar (had t picked up my tix and ticketmaster was already closed). Idiot.
Personally, I have no problems with bands continuing with new members as long as the deceased wasn't the main songwriter. I don't think it's fair for bands like BM and AIC to have to start over touring in a van, or quit music altogether because their singers couldn't kick. I may be mistaken, but I believe BM used to skip songwriting credits and use the words ' Blind Melon is a band' instead.
And...I think no rain is a great song. It got totally killed by radio play, but it's got such a great vibe... helped that I was already hooked by the I Wonder vid, so the success of no rain probably wasn't as annoying for me as to someone who was introduced to them by that song.
Yeah, I've heard the reformed band is very good but I just can't imagine they're the same. Probably a name change would be in order. Any time a lead singer with a distinct voice dies or leaves a band it's best to change the name. Can anyone think of another example like this where the lead singer moves on but the name stays? Off hand, I can't.
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-Seattle,Wash-Key Arena-9/21/9 -Vancouver,B.C-Rogers Arena-12/4/13
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-Vancouver,B.C-GM Place -9/25/9 -Seattle,Wash-Safeco Field-8/8/18
-Vancouver,B.C-Pacific Coliseum-9/25/11 -Seattle,Wash-Safeco Field-8/10/18
-Misoula,MT-Adams Field House-9/30/12
Yeah, I've heard the reformed band is very good but I just can't imagine they're the same. Probably a name change would be in order. Any time a lead singer with a distinct voice dies or leaves a band it's best to change the name. Can anyone think of another example like this where the lead singer moves on but the name stays? Off hand, I can't.
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One of the most underrated bands of all time. My guitar teacher when I was 14/15 had loved them for a long time, and gave me their entire discography upon hearing I liked "No Rain." I was blown away. What a band, Shannon Hoon had one of the most amazing voices, ever.
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they are playing in calgary the same night of my cousin's wedding 30 km's away. saw them in 2008 at least.
Faaaaack. I have fourth row tickets to slash that night. Didn't know they were coming back to Calgary. Might have to sell the slash tickets and go....but then I've never seen slash play live either. I saw BM with Hoon (and PJ and NY) in 93 but missed out on my one chance to see the new lineup in Edmonton due to thinking I could get will call tickets at a bar (had t picked up my tix and ticketmaster was already closed). Idiot.
Personally, I have no problems with bands continuing with new members as long as the deceased wasn't the main songwriter. I don't think it's fair for bands like BM and AIC to have to start over touring in a van, or quit music altogether because their singers couldn't kick. I may be mistaken, but I believe BM used to skip songwriting credits and use the words ' Blind Melon is a band' instead.
And...I think no rain is a great song. It got totally killed by radio play, but it's got such a great vibe... helped that I was already hooked by the I Wonder vid, so the success of no rain probably wasn't as annoying for me as to someone who was introduced to them by that song.
So I ended up selling my slash tickets and getting tickets to the BM show in Calgary instead....after selling the Slash tix, I was informed that an acquaintance of mine (and close friend of a close friend) was touring with him as his bodyguard....I could have watched the show side stage with backstage passes....fack... Anyway...we get to BM a little late - they just got on stage. They're seated, playing acoustic....I then noticed there are only three people on stage: Chris, Glen, and Travis....wtf? Travis kept apologizing about it, saying that it didn't sound right with one guitar, and because BM doesnt write with traditional rhythm/lead parts, more like alternating lead exchanges, it was beyond him to fill in for Rogers....I was getting really annoyed, because it didn't sound great, and I spent a fair amount of money on gas, hotel, tickets, etc...had passed up the slash show in Edmonton, and had no idea the show would be performed as a 3 pc acoustic set. However....after some more banter between songs, it became apparent what happened: Brad Smith's brother Chris was killed in a car accident earlier that day, too late to cancel the show....so Rogers and Brad never made the trip to Calgary. Apparently Chris was deeply involved with the band around the time of the release of Soup? In the end, the show was still pretty entertaining, even if the songs don't all work as well acoustically, and without the interplay.... They covered The One I Love and Jane Says (Travis totally f'd up Jane Says tho...got into the zone and just kept going lol....they pretty much played the song twice)...They asked if anyone in the crowd knew the rhythm part to Galaxie and a guy came up and played it with them - nailed it. It was a good time, but disappointing....totally understandable tho. Showed a lot of courage for the guys who showed up to make the trip and actually perform...I'm sure it was emotional for all of them. They've cancelled their australian tour as well.
wow, that's crazy. I had no idea why the cancelled the Oz dates. I assumed it was more problems getting along with Travis. I was in Calgary at the time for a wedding, and was considering skipping out of the reception early to see the show, but I didn't.
wow, that's crazy. I had no idea why the cancelled the Oz dates. I assumed it was more problems getting along with Travis. I was in Calgary at the time for a wedding, and was considering skipping out of the reception early to see the show, but I didn't.
Gotta say, he does Shannon's parts exceptionally well. His voice is unreal.
wow, that's crazy. I had no idea why the cancelled the Oz dates. I assumed it was more problems getting along with Travis. I was in Calgary at the time for a wedding, and was considering skipping out of the reception early to see the show, but I didn't.
Gotta say, he does Shannon's parts exceptionally well. His voice is unreal.
yeah, saw them on tour in 2008. I closed my eyes and thought it WAS Shannon.
I saw them twice with Travis. For me, I appreciate the similarities and differences between his voice and Shannon's. The band and Travis were on fire both times and I got to meet Nell Hoon, Shannon's mom, in Grand Rapids. Super cool woman!
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Still can't get my head around the fact that it's been 20 years. I saw Blind Melon in August 95 at the Reading Festival, less than 2 months later Shannon was gone...
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I get the feeling from seeing all the recent melon love, and things like Soup getting voted #1 underrated album of the 90s, that Blind Melon is going to be the new Big Star. Woefully neglected in their time, but recognized for their greatness by all with ears in the future.
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I get the feeling from seeing all the recent melon love, and things like Soup getting voted #1 underrated album of the 90s, that Blind Melon is going to be the new Big Star. Woefully neglected in their time, but recognized for their greatness by all with ears in the future.
At the time part of me was glad that most people thought they were just a one hit wonder - the Dancing Bee Girl band. It meant they were my little secret, something I could hold onto that wasn't 'popular'. I needed Shannon's lyrics when I was a teenager far more than someone like Kurt, who I loved but couldn't relate to ('Walk' literally saved my life on more than one occasion).
Soup is a phenomenal record, I really hope they are recognised for what they did, and what Shannon was.
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yeah, i was one of those "bee girl" people. I dismissed them because of that song and how heavy it was rotated on radio, I just ended up hating it. It wasn't until years later that I "got them". too bad. I think they passed through my city once, and I missed the opportunity to see them with Shannon.
This is the best Blind Melon track. I've always wonder this as well It was talked about in the book A devil on one shoulder and a angel on the other by Greg Prato Good book check it out!
-Seattle,Wash-Key Arena-9/21/9 -Vancouver,B.C-Rogers Arena-12/4/13
-Seattle,Wash-Key Arena-9/22/9 -Pemberton,B.C-7/17/16
-Vancouver,B.C-GM Place -9/25/9 -Seattle,Wash-Safeco Field-8/8/18
-Vancouver,B.C-Pacific Coliseum-9/25/11 -Seattle,Wash-Safeco Field-8/10/18
-Misoula,MT-Adams Field House-9/30/12
I get the feeling from seeing all the recent melon love, and things like Soup getting voted #1 underrated album of the 90s, that Blind Melon is going to be the new Big Star. Woefully neglected in their time, but recognized for their greatness by all with ears in the future.
I think their "big" days are long gone - that ended when Shannon Hoon died. The current band can barely sell out large bars now in most places. I dunno.... from your comment they were apparently under-appreciated in their heyday. Perhaps that's true, although that is hard for me to relate to, because as a massive fan at the time, I felt like they were huge. They seemed to be everywhere, on the radio constantly, their shows created a buzz.... I guess it's all just a matter of perspective!
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I get the feeling from seeing all the recent melon love, and things like Soup getting voted #1 underrated album of the 90s, that Blind Melon is going to be the new Big Star. Woefully neglected in their time, but recognized for their greatness by all with ears in the future.
I think their "big" days are long gone - that ended when Shannon Hoon died. The current band can barely sell out large bars now in most places. I dunno.... from your comment they were apparently under-appreciated in their heyday. Perhaps that's true, although that is hard for me to relate to, because as a massive fan at the time, I felt like they were huge. They seemed to be everywhere, on the radio constantly, their shows created a buzz.... I guess it's all just a matter of perspective!
I think you misunderstand me. Maybe it was the Big Star reference that failed?
No Rain was huge. (But even then watch the Woodstock video and you see/hear he can't even get the crowd to sign along for shit, so)
But that's where it ended. They may have been "big" in certain circles of peeps that new what's what, but most seem to agree (and I recall) them being largely ignored otherwise. My take is that the alt-rock world was already inundated with high profile acts, and there were just too many other more easily digestible acts to allow room for BM. Also, like I said, the music is complex and Shannon has a high voice which off puts many people (think Janes Addiction).
Anyway. The Big Star reference was meant to imply NOT that they would be hugely successful commercially ever again, but that like Big Star (and maybe they velvet Underground) that their perceived worth as immortal artists will continue to rise over the years as people dig through the music of yore and realize that in fact (like with Big Star) that BM wrote and recorded some of the most heartfelt and beautiful songs of rock history.
Watch the slander from Ricky. I get that they were "friends" and maybe he was ragging in jest but he places them flatly at the bottom of artists regarding popularity. Douchery.
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If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
This is the best Blind Melon track. I've always wonder this as well It was talked about in the book A devil on one shoulder and a angel on the other by Greg Prato Good book check it out!
Thank you! I will! I was hoping some one could point me to an answer. I'm glad it's on Nico but don't understand who made the decision to pull it from Soup and why! It's fucking beautiful.
Change / walk / soup = tears
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
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Soup is a masterpiece. Never got into the selftitled album much. A few good tunes but Soup is unbelievable.
You need to relisten then.
Holyman sleepyhouse Change Time I wonder Tones of home Drive
All 100% classic. (Time & I Wonder!!!) I mean they all are, but each of those is rock solid. And most of them goddamn impossible to play on guitar :-/ :-/ :-/
I always thought Soup was slightly weaker, personally. But the songs on soup are definitely tighter, and more alt-rock than BM which is far more jammy and "loose". And like they say on the Porcupine film, they definitely had more money to throw at production.
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If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
This thread got me jonesing for BM. Listened to Soup and Nico today and enjoyed them a little sumpin extra having beforehand watched some of the videos/interviews in the thread.
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Personally, I have no problems with bands continuing with new members as long as the deceased wasn't the main songwriter. I don't think it's fair for bands like BM and AIC to have to start over touring in a van, or quit music altogether because their singers couldn't kick. I may be mistaken, but I believe BM used to skip songwriting credits and use the words ' Blind Melon is a band' instead.
And...I think no rain is a great song. It got totally killed by radio play, but it's got such a great vibe... helped that I was already hooked by the I Wonder vid, so the success of no rain probably wasn't as annoying for me as to someone who was introduced to them by that song.
-Seattle,Wash-Key Arena-9/22/9 -Pemberton,B.C-7/17/16
-Vancouver,B.C-GM Place -9/25/9 -Seattle,Wash-Safeco Field-8/8/18
-Vancouver,B.C-Pacific Coliseum-9/25/11 -Seattle,Wash-Safeco Field-8/10/18
-Misoula,MT-Adams Field House-9/30/12
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If I opened it now would you not understand?
Anyway...we get to BM a little late - they just got on stage. They're seated, playing acoustic....I then noticed there are only three people on stage: Chris, Glen, and Travis....wtf?
Travis kept apologizing about it, saying that it didn't sound right with one guitar, and because BM doesnt write with traditional rhythm/lead parts, more like alternating lead exchanges, it was beyond him to fill in for Rogers....I was getting really annoyed, because it didn't sound great, and I spent a fair amount of money on gas, hotel, tickets, etc...had passed up the slash show in Edmonton, and had no idea the show would be performed as a 3 pc acoustic set. However....after some more banter between songs, it became apparent what happened: Brad Smith's brother Chris was killed in a car accident earlier that day, too late to cancel the show....so Rogers and Brad never made the trip to Calgary. Apparently Chris was deeply involved with the band around the time of the release of Soup?
In the end, the show was still pretty entertaining, even if the songs don't all work as well acoustically, and without the interplay....
They covered The One I Love and Jane Says (Travis totally f'd up Jane Says tho...got into the zone and just kept going lol....they pretty much played the song twice)...They asked if anyone in the crowd knew the rhythm part to Galaxie and a guy came up and played it with them - nailed it. It was a good time, but disappointing....totally understandable tho. Showed a lot of courage for the guys who showed up to make the trip and actually perform...I'm sure it was emotional for all of them. They've cancelled their australian tour as well.
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If I opened it now would you not understand?
Soup is a phenomenal record, I really hope they are recognised for what they did, and what Shannon was.
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Fucking love that album!
-Seattle,Wash-Key Arena-9/22/9 -Pemberton,B.C-7/17/16
-Vancouver,B.C-GM Place -9/25/9 -Seattle,Wash-Safeco Field-8/8/18
-Vancouver,B.C-Pacific Coliseum-9/25/11 -Seattle,Wash-Safeco Field-8/10/18
-Misoula,MT-Adams Field House-9/30/12
If I opened it now would you not understand?
I've always wonder this as well
It was talked about in the book A devil on one shoulder and a angel on the other by Greg Prato
Good book check it out!
-Seattle,Wash-Key Arena-9/22/9 -Pemberton,B.C-7/17/16
-Vancouver,B.C-GM Place -9/25/9 -Seattle,Wash-Safeco Field-8/8/18
-Vancouver,B.C-Pacific Coliseum-9/25/11 -Seattle,Wash-Safeco Field-8/10/18
-Misoula,MT-Adams Field House-9/30/12
I dunno.... from your comment they were apparently under-appreciated in their heyday. Perhaps that's true, although that is hard for me to relate to, because as a massive fan at the time, I felt like they were huge. They seemed to be everywhere, on the radio constantly, their shows created a buzz.... I guess it's all just a matter of perspective!
No Rain was huge. (But even then watch the Woodstock video and you see/hear he can't even get the crowd to sign along for shit, so)
But that's where it ended. They may have been "big" in certain circles of peeps that new what's what, but most seem to agree (and I recall) them being largely ignored otherwise. My take is that the alt-rock world was already inundated with high profile acts, and there were just too many other more easily digestible acts to allow room for BM. Also, like I said, the music is complex and Shannon has a high voice which off puts many people (think Janes Addiction).
Anyway. The Big Star reference was meant to imply NOT that they would be hugely successful commercially ever again, but that like Big Star (and maybe they velvet Underground) that their perceived worth as immortal artists will continue to rise over the years as people dig through the music of yore and realize that in fact (like with Big Star) that BM wrote and recorded some of the most heartfelt and beautiful songs of rock history.
Here is s good/shitty gauge of their perceived value at the time:
Watch the slander from Ricky. I get that they were "friends" and maybe he was ragging in jest but he places them flatly at the bottom of artists regarding popularity. Douchery.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Change / walk / soup = tears
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Holyman
sleepyhouse
Change
Time
I wonder
Tones of home
Drive
All 100% classic. (Time & I Wonder!!!)
I mean they all are, but each of those is rock solid. And most of them goddamn impossible to play on guitar :-/ :-/ :-/
I always thought Soup was slightly weaker, personally. But the songs on soup are definitely tighter, and more alt-rock than BM which is far more jammy and "loose". And like they say on the Porcupine film, they definitely had more money to throw at production.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
If I opened it now would you not understand?