Poll: biggest sellout

angryyoungman

pick one. . .i know, its tough

angryyoungman

ok, ok, since i totally fucked up the poll here are the options:

1. ice cube
2. queen latifah
3. gwen stefani
4. mark mcgrath
5. other

by sellout i mean at some point the artist had some artistic credability. . .that excludes the brittany spears, madonna's, etc. of the world. . .i realize mark mcgrath is a stretch in that regard

pjoasisrule

angryyoungman wrote:

ok, ok, since i totally fucked up the poll here are the options:

1. ice cube
2. queen latifah
3. gwen stefani
4. mark mcgrath
5. other

by sellout i mean at some point the artist had some artistic credability. . .that excludes the brittany spears, madonna's, etc. of the world. . .i realize mark mcgrath is a stretch in that regard

Pretty sure Mark McGrath has absolutely no credibility, should stick to his host job on that Hollywood show.

Anyways, I would have to go with other because there are musicians that I once loved that just really went downhill.

reversedarwinism

First one that comes to mind is Aerosmith.

Wobbie

Mark McGrath was a sellout from the beginning..... altho, I do remember being amazed by his musical knowledge on some celebrity edition of Jeopardy. The other two contestants (Edwin McCain was one) had no freakin' chance!!

angryyoungman

pjoasisrule wrote:

Pretty sure Mark McGrath has absolutely no credibility, should stick to his host job on that Hollywood show.

Anyways, I would have to go with other because there are musicians that I once loved that just really went downhill.

give me some examples. . .

angryyoungman

reversedarwinism wrote:

First one that comes to mind is Aerosmith.

not bad. . .even the sold out version of aerosmith to me isnt horrible. . .its just not classic aerosmith. . .plus i guess when you get old the urge to stay relevant pulls you towards the mainstream. . .the other artists i listed did so while still young making them more guilty in my book

Jeanie

Peter Garrett of Midnight Oil. No question in my mind.

angryyoungman

how did i not think of the who? and i like them. . .they are just too much. . .the car commercials, csi on an endless loop, enough already. . .when do people say "i have enough money", dont need to ruin my credability

jimed14

Well, the self admitted biggest sell out is Gene Simmons, he wins this contest easy.

South of Seattle

Metallica
Ice Cube
Chris Cornell

Zoso

Jeanie wrote:

Peter Garrett of Midnight Oil. No question in my mind.

I don't agree with this I mean sure he is in the political mainstream now and his voice is somewhat smothered by the party line but still he is in a better position than ever to speak out about what he strongly believes in.

angryyoungman

jimed14 wrote:

Well, the self admitted biggest sell out is Gene Simmons, he wins this contest easy.

i think he falls into that category of not really having any credability. . .at least not for the last 30 years

angryyoungman

South of Seattle wrote:

Metallica
Ice Cube
Chris Cornell

im gonna cut chris a break for his ultra-lame clothes ads. . .as long as it doesnt happen again. . .i disagree with metallica, they altered their sound a little (and alot of people didnt like it), but i dont think they sold out per se

reversedarwinism

jimed14 wrote:

Well, the self admitted biggest sell out is Gene Simmons, he wins this contest easy.

But he always sucked and his rediculous dressing up and wearing the make up like he did...... he's always been a sell out, more along the lines of a Brittney Spears than an artist that was at one time valid.

theroachman

Metallica hands down. They were the poster child of RIAA lawsuits till just a few months ago when they dropped their support.

That's pretty much the definition of sell-out in my book


#2 is Ice T
#3 is Ice Cube
#4 Queen Lativa

hmm? two northern California people and two southern California people. Do I sense a pattern here?

Jeanie

Zoso wrote:

I don't agree with this I mean sure he is in the political mainstream now and his voice is somewhat smothered by the party line but still he is in a better position than ever to speak out about what he strongly believes in.

That's ok, I didn't expect that people would agree with me.

When you support someone and their ideologies for over 20 years, vote for them when they stand as an independent on a green platform, buy their music, donate to the organizations they support both with time and money, support them and the organizations they stand for, listen to what they have to say, admire them for their activism and support it, it's a pretty big kick in the teeth to have them then completely change their minds and go with a party simply because they think it will get them further, particularly when you know that their choice has effectively silenced them and got them toeing the party line. Try to think how you'd feel if after all this time Eddie joined the Republicans? I think that would probably cover it for me.

South of Seattle

theroachman wrote:

Metallica hands down. They were the poster child of RIAA lawsuits till just a few months ago when they dropped their support.

That's pretty much the definition of sell-out in my book


#2 is Ice T
#3 is Ice Cube
#4 Queen Lativa

hmm? two northern California people and two southern California people. Do I sense a pattern here?

Isn't Queen Latifah from Brooklyn?

theroachman

Hmm? I always thought she was from San Francisco. I could be wrong it happens from time to time. I will research and find out.

theroachman

South of Seattle wrote:

Isn't Queen Latifah from Brooklyn?

Well you were way way closer then me Newark New Jersey 1970


http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/50120/ladies_first_queen_latifah_biography.html

this i did not know:

When it comes to Queen Latifah, her smash hit, “Ladies First” seems to be approiately fitting doesn’t it? "Latifah" is an Arabic word meaning "delicate and sensitive."

tybird

1) Sting
2) Phil Collins

evenflow82

green day
metallica

Anon

Zoso wrote:

I don't agree with this I mean sure he is in the political mainstream now and his voice is somewhat smothered by the party line but still he is in a better position than ever to speak out about what he strongly believes in.

The only problem with that Zoso, is that apparently what he 'strongly' believes in, is different to what it was when he first became so outspoken on enviromental matters. As the frontman of the Oil's he was well known for his political views. He took on the establishment in a loud and public manner. He was very outspoken on environmental matters; definite in his desire to see a world rid of nuclear armaments. He was loudly critical of US foreign and military policies, even protesting at Pine Gap against the presence of US military operations on Australian soil. He was respected for the message he took to the world.

Then he crossed the streams.

He joined the establishment he so publicly denounced, became a member of the ALP, was elected to Parliament and yippee now he's the Shadow (Opposition) Minister for Climate Change, Environment & Heritage, Arts.

Soon after, the ALP announces their support of the establishment of a new US military communications installation in Western Australia. Isn't that against everything what he stood for?

How can he abandon, with little compunction, the issues that truly matter to him? Yes, people change their minds, mould and reshape their thinking as they grow older and their role in the world changes, but very rarely do they completely disavow everything they once held to be true.

Unless, of course, they are politicians....

Joe2TheRevenge

THE RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS

game over.

Lostdogsinthegarden

Gwen Stefani used to be good... until she sold out, bigtime.

brainofPJ

from that list:

mark mcgrath

g under p

theroachman wrote:

Metallica hands down. They were the poster child of RIAA lawsuits till just a few months ago when they dropped their support.

That's pretty much the definition of sell-out in my book


#2 is Ice T
#3 is Ice Cube
#4 Queen Lativa

hmm? two northern California people and two southern California people. Do I sense a pattern here?

How is Queen Latifah a sellout and while we're at it please tell me what exactly is a sellout?

I disagree with Metallica being a sellout, yes they made a mistake with going after Napster and have made some shitty albums of late.

....And so what, what is exactly wrong with having your son as a ringtone?

Peace

Blind Melon

Radiohead..

smg9779

Metallica and Aerosmith

pjoasisrule

theroachman wrote:

Metallica hands down. They were the poster child of RIAA lawsuits till just a few months ago when they dropped their support.

That's pretty much the definition of sell-out in my book


#2 is Ice T
#3 is Ice Cube
#4 Queen Lativa

hmm? two northern California people and two southern California people. Do I sense a pattern here?

I agree with Metallica, I have basically boycotted them for the most part, used to be a pretty big fan at one time too

South of Seattle

theroachman wrote:

Well you were way way closer then me Newark New Jersey 1970


http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/50120/ladies_first_queen_latifah_biography.html

this i did not know:

When it comes to Queen Latifah, her smash hit, “Ladies First” seems to be approiately fitting doesn’t it? "Latifah" is an Arabic word meaning "delicate and sensitive."

Makes sense. I just remember her hanging out w/ all the NJ/NYC guys like Naughty by Nature back in the day. It's amazing the weird things I still remember from watching YO MTV Raps! back in the day