And on another note... I don't see how anyone could call Born to Run overrated. It's a meticulous, complex piece of music (for mainstream rock at least), so you can't argue that it's so simple that anyone could write it. And its lyrics are brilliant and resonate deeply in all of us (assuming you're human, which I'm guessing the OP isn't).
"I wanna know if love is wild, babe, I wanna know if love is real..."
Goddamn that's such a good song. I know we all have our opinions, but I think this is the exception... the OP is just plain wrong. Even if you don't like it, you can't argue it's overrated...
Are you sure those aren't the lyrics to "My Heart Will Go On" from Celine Dion? Listen folks, forget the fact that Eddie is friends w/Bruce. The E Street Band is way overrated. Bruce has a few good songs and a few great ones and Born to Run is neither. Meticulous and complex??? HAHAHAHAHA! I AM human. You must not be a songwriter.
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I think I pissed myself laughing when I saw that song on the album.
Geeez man ya gotta give it time to be hated or to get overrated. It just came out 2 weeks ago.
I like the song myself.
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Are you sure those aren't the lyrics to "My Heart Will Go On" from Celine Dion? Listen folks, forget the fact that Eddie is friends w/Bruce. The E Street Band is way overrated. Bruce has a few good songs and a few great ones and Born to Run is neither. Meticulous and complex??? HAHAHAHAHA! I AM human. You must not be a songwriter.
I think you totally miss the point, it's about wanting to escape and find a better life, it's about hope and breaking away from all the constraints that can make you settle for second best - I think the reason this song has stood the test of time is because people still identify with its spirit, not just because it's a classic rock song still played on the radio.
Are you sure those aren't the lyrics to "My Heart Will Go On" from Celine Dion? Listen folks, forget the fact that Eddie is friends w/Bruce. The E Street Band is way overrated. Bruce has a few good songs and a few great ones and Born to Run is neither. Meticulous and complex??? HAHAHAHAHA! I AM human. You must not be a songwriter.
Born to Run is naive and faintly ridiculous, AGREED. It's also the best straight-up rock song ever made though, and anyone who doesn't enjoy it is a person I feel personally sorry for, for surely they must have a heart of stone.
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
Born to Run is naive and faintly ridiculous, AGREED. It's also the best straight-up rock song ever made though, and anyone who doesn't enjoy it is a person I feel personally sorry for, for surely they must have a heart of stone.
Yeah but the naivete of the song is part of what makes it amazing... that youthful naive longing for something better, even if you don't know what it is. But anyway, you like the song, so I won't argue. Although I'll concede that "just wrap your legs round these velvet rims and strap your hands cross my engines" is pretty bad.
Are you sure those aren't the lyrics to "My Heart Will Go On" from Celine Dion? Listen folks, forget the fact that Eddie is friends w/Bruce. The E Street Band is way overrated. Bruce has a few good songs and a few great ones and Born to Run is neither. Meticulous and complex??? HAHAHAHAHA! I AM human. You must not be a songwriter.
First, I liked Bruce way before I liked PJ. Bruce blows Ed out of the water, and I love Ed. No comparison.
Second, I said meticulous and complex for a mainstream rock song. But since you're a pretentious, brilliant songwriter, go ahead and try to write a better song than Born to Run, with multiple distinct parts and a dozen instruments each playing drastically different but somehow cohesive parts. Just try. I guarantee in your entire life you won't write anything half as complex while still sounding good.
You clearly have no soul.
It's a town full of losers and I'm pulling out of here to win
Yeah but the naivete of the song is part of what makes it amazing... that youthful naive longing for something better, even if you don't know what it is. But anyway, you like the song, so I won't argue. Although I'll concede that "just wrap your legs round these velvet rims and strap your hands cross my engines" is prett
First, I liked Bruce way before I liked PJ. Bruce blows Ed out of the water, and I love Ed. No comparison.
Second, I said meticulous and complex for a mainstream rock song. But since you're a pretentious, brilliant songwriter, go ahead and try to write a better song than Born to Run, with multiple distinct parts and a dozen instruments each playing drastically different but somehow cohesive parts. Just try. I guarantee in your entire life you won't write anything half as complex while still sounding good.
You clearly have no soul.
I was brought up on Motown music. Curtis Mayfield, Marvin Gaye, The Temptations, James Brown and The Four Tops were constants in my house growing up. If there is something I'm missing, believe me....it isn't soul. If anyone is missing soul it's Bruce himself. You think Bruce started the naive youthful longing songs? He ripped those off of Dylan right from the start. And Dylan ripped it off from...ah to hell with it!
"All the rusted signs we ignore throughout our lives"--Ed
I was brought up on Motown music. Curtis Mayfield, Marvin Gaye, The Temptations, James Brown and The Four Tops were constants in my house growing up. If there is something I'm missing, believe me....it isn't soul. If anyone is missing soul it's Bruce himself. You think Bruce started the naive youthful longing songs? He ripped those off of Dylan right from the start. And Dylan ripped it off from...ah to hell with it!
I never said Bruce invented that kind of song. But he did perfect it.
Anyway, you're talking to the kid who has a framed limited edition $100 Born to Run album cover lithograph in his room. So I'm afraid to say you aren't gonna convince me. To each his own, I guess.
.... but you're still wrong.
It's a town full of losers and I'm pulling out of here to win
I'm a casual Bruce fan, and I'm certain Born to Run is the greatest rock n roll song of all time. Never, ever gets old. I feel like listening to it now. In fact, I HAVE to.
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I agree that it changed music. No arguement from me there. I think if you take that aspect away and just look at the song itself, its really not that great of a song. Especially to have the impact that it did. Every Greatest Song of the 90s list I have ever seen has it as #1. In my opinion, its not the greatest song that came out of the 90s. Hell, it's not even Nirvana's greatest song.
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Sweet Home Alabama - Lynyrd Skynyrd. I do like Skynyrd, but I have never liked this song. Also, Kid Rocks new single with the Sweet Home Alabama riff doesn't help either. I think it's currently being used in commercials for Kentucky Fried Chicken as well.
Girls - Beastie Boys. When I hear this song come on the radio, regardless of what I am doing, I will leap up and throw the radio against the wall.
I never said Bruce invented that kind of song. But he did perfect it.
Anyway, you're talking to the kid who has a framed limited edition $100 Born to Run album cover lithograph in his room. So I'm afraid to say you aren't gonna convince me. To each his own, I guess.
.... but you're still wrong.
I guess we can both agree that Pearl Jam is great. Your right, to each his own.
"All the rusted signs we ignore throughout our lives"--Ed
Sweet Home Alabama - Lynyrd Skynyrd. I do like Skynyrd, but I have never liked this song. Also, Kid Rocks new single with the Sweet Home Alabama riff doesn't help either. I think it's currently being used in commercials for Kentucky Fried Chicken as well.
Girls - Beastie Boys. When I hear this song come on the radio, regardless of what I am doing, I will leap up and throw the radio against the wall.
Yeah but the naivete of the song is part of what makes it amazing... that youthful naive longing for something better, even if you don't know what it is. But anyway, you like the song, so I won't argue.
Why ARE you arguing? That was my point I said it's naive but it's brilliant. It's supposed to be.
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
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Foxy Lady
Maybe Freebird, but I don't think it is widely held up as one of the greatest of all time, which is what I base my selections on.
To that end, Stairway to Heaven might even qualify, but I don't care...love it
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I think I pissed myself laughing when I saw that song on the album.
Trust me...I avoid New Jersey like the plague anyway. I'm a New Yorker and have no reason to EVER enter NJ...unless I go to see the NEW YORK Giants!
Are you sure those aren't the lyrics to "My Heart Will Go On" from Celine Dion? Listen folks, forget the fact that Eddie is friends w/Bruce. The E Street Band is way overrated. Bruce has a few good songs and a few great ones and Born to Run is neither. Meticulous and complex??? HAHAHAHAHA! I AM human. You must not be a songwriter.
Geeez man ya gotta give it time to be hated or to get overrated. It just came out 2 weeks ago.
I like the song myself.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
I think you totally miss the point, it's about wanting to escape and find a better life, it's about hope and breaking away from all the constraints that can make you settle for second best - I think the reason this song has stood the test of time is because people still identify with its spirit, not just because it's a classic rock song still played on the radio.
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Yeah but the naivete of the song is part of what makes it amazing... that youthful naive longing for something better, even if you don't know what it is. But anyway, you like the song, so I won't argue. Although I'll concede that "just wrap your legs round these velvet rims and strap your hands cross my engines" is pretty bad.
First, I liked Bruce way before I liked PJ. Bruce blows Ed out of the water, and I love Ed. No comparison.
Second, I said meticulous and complex for a mainstream rock song. But since you're a pretentious, brilliant songwriter, go ahead and try to write a better song than Born to Run, with multiple distinct parts and a dozen instruments each playing drastically different but somehow cohesive parts. Just try. I guarantee in your entire life you won't write anything half as complex while still sounding good.
You clearly have no soul.
I was brought up on Motown music. Curtis Mayfield, Marvin Gaye, The Temptations, James Brown and The Four Tops were constants in my house growing up. If there is something I'm missing, believe me....it isn't soul. If anyone is missing soul it's Bruce himself. You think Bruce started the naive youthful longing songs? He ripped those off of Dylan right from the start. And Dylan ripped it off from...ah to hell with it!
George Harrison > John Lennon
I never said Bruce invented that kind of song. But he did perfect it.
Anyway, you're talking to the kid who has a framed limited edition $100 Born to Run album cover lithograph in his room. So I'm afraid to say you aren't gonna convince me.
.... but you're still wrong.
This post is correct.
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Girls - Beastie Boys. When I hear this song come on the radio, regardless of what I am doing, I will leap up and throw the radio against the wall.
I guess we can both agree that Pearl Jam is great. Your right, to each his own.
I agree on both counts
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Maybe Freebird, but I don't think it is widely held up as one of the greatest of all time, which is what I base my selections on.
To that end, Stairway to Heaven might even qualify, but I don't care...love it
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Blur is not a song.