Pearl Jam-it took me a while to get there. Otherwise, I would have had to say Josh Rouse's "Subtitulo", which I like substantially more than Wolfmother, Tool, RHCP, Neil (like what he's saying; not how he's saying it), etc.
I am really, really looking forward to The Raconteurs on Tuesday though.
i disagree about Neil (as it seems most others do ), but the Raconteurs record is going to be amazing.
the Loose Fur record is great, as is "Everything all the Time" by Band of Horses.
one of the best records released this year is Built To Spill - You In Reverse.
"What’s Orphans? I don’t know. Orphans is a dead end kid driving a coffin with big tires across the Ohio River wearing welding goggles and a wife beater with a lit firecracker in his ear." - Tom Waits
Does anyone have the new Paul Simon record? I've read a number of great reviews.
"There's a $10,000 bill in it for you."
"Oh yeah? Which president's on it?"
"Uh, all of them. They're having a party. Jimmy Carter's passed out on the couch."
look out guys... it's the way-cooler-than-you indie rock fan. he's rocking to bands you've never HEARD of. if your album sells more than 1000 copies, you're obviously pop trash and he wont listen to you so you better make sure your music is unlistenable!
get over yourself dude. you remind me of my punk ass roomate from college and he need to have that stick removed from his egotistic arsehole too.
my fav album this year? pearl jam. built to spill was ok but not what i'd hoped for.
Pearl Jam is kind of a given....it's a cracking record and deserves to be album of the year.
others that I've liked this year are:
Arctic Monkeys - Whatever You Say I Am, That's What I'm Not
Mogwai - Mr Beast
Hundred Reasons - Kill Your Own
and Taking Back Sunday - Louder Now
A democracy on paper, apparently well ordered, regularly subverted by irrational chaos.
Manchester - 4/6/2000
London - 20/4/2006
Dublin - 23/8/2006
London - 18/6/2007
New York City - 24/6/2008
New York City - 25/6/2008 - we will be "what is up" New York
Manchester - 18/8/2009
look out guys... it's the way-cooler-than-you indie rock fan. he's rocking to bands you've never HEARD of. if your album sells more than 1000 copies, you're obviously pop trash and he wont listen to you so you better make sure your music is unlistenable!
echoes has good taste in music, so sorry if you don't know any of the tons of awesome bands that are outside of your commercial 'alternative rock' fm station...
pearl jam, chili peppers and tool won't be in my top 10 come the end of the year. maybe tool will be, but they are all good albums, just not really my main thing anymore.
look out guys... it's the way-cooler-than-you indie rock fan. he's rocking to bands you've never HEARD of. if your album sells more than 1000 copies, you're obviously pop trash and he wont listen to you so you better make sure your music is unlistenable!
I'm sure Destoyer has sold more than 1000 copies, and I still like them. I'm sorry that just because I don't think any of the new releases by the radio darlings aren't any good (although some of them have some good tracks) it makes me the cooler than you indie rock fan. Indie is pretty much just as mainstream as any other rock and roll out there, and to think that all the bands are playing in tiny dank clubs and selling hundreds of copies alone is a fallacy. True, they may not be making loads of money and they may not be headlining festivals and they may not be playing arena shows, but they are hardly "unknowns." There is a rapidly increasing fanbase and set of people who are educating them selves, for better or for worse, about what alternatives there are to top 40 acts like the chili peppers, tool, and pearl jam (and of late, the white stripes/wolfmother).
I don't consider myself a holier than thou indie wank simply because I know there are tens of thousands of them across the world. I don't think very many of the bands I listen to are "true unknowns" in the sense that no one knows of them. That is just how I feel, but maybe I'm wrong. Basically, Labelling someone as an indie prat because we listen to bands you haven't heard of, and are disliking albums you are liking. To speak the very truth, I hate a band or an album because it sucks, not because it is popular. If it is good, I'll like it, no matter how popular it is, examples being stuff like the Arcade Fire and Wilco and Pavement, and Radiohead. And the first half of Tool's career.
As for the "all so lame"? I guess I was just expressing an unhapiness with everyone's willingness to stick with what they know, especially given so much choice these day. There have been tonnes of great albums out this year, and still every post (almost exclusively) contains tool/pearl jam/rhcp/wolfmother. Maybe some of these people listen to lots of music and honestly choose to prefer these albums. I don't begrudge them that. I have a sneaking suspicion that these albums are on there because they are the only albums these people know about/have listened to this year, and I honestly think that is pretty lame. Maybe that makes me a snob, I don't know. I like to give everything a shot, and I wish other people would to. I listened to the Tool album a good 5 times to see if I missed anything when it didn't do anything for me the first time (turns out I didn't really). I don't know why I care so much about what other people listen to, maybe I don't, and maybe I just think it is lame that they are limiting themselves, and that's why I said that. Sorry if I'm a prick for saying what I'm thinking out loud.
On the other ahnd, I KNOW I'm a major prick for writing this much crap on really nothing at all. Sorry to anyone who read it. Hope it made some time of sense
and thanks for the vote of confidence JSBE, probably the first to say something along those lines. I appreciate it.
I'm sure Destoyer has sold more than 1000 copies, and I still like them. I'm sorry that just because I don't think any of the new releases by the radio darlings aren't any good (although some of them have some good tracks) it makes me the cooler than you indie rock fan. Indie is pretty much just as mainstream as any other rock and roll out there, and to think that all the bands are playing in tiny dank clubs and selling hundreds of copies alone is a fallacy. True, they may not be making loads of money and they may not be headlining festivals and they may not be playing arena shows, but they are hardly "unknowns." There is a rapidly increasing fanbase and set of people who are educating them selves, for better or for worse, about what alternatives there are to top 40 acts like the chili peppers, tool, and pearl jam (and of late, the white stripes/wolfmother).
I don't consider myself a holier than thou indie wank simply because I know there are tens of thousands of them across the world. I don't think very many of the bands I listen to are "true unknowns" in the sense that no one knows of them. That is just how I feel, but maybe I'm wrong. Basically, Labelling someone as an indie prat because we listen to bands you haven't heard of, and are disliking albums you are liking. To speak the very truth, I hate a band or an album because it sucks, not because it is popular. If it is good, I'll like it, no matter how popular it is, examples being stuff like the Arcade Fire and Wilco and Pavement, and Radiohead. And the first half of Tool's career.
As for the "all so lame"? I guess I was just expressing an unhapiness with everyone's willingness to stick with what they know, especially given so much choice these day. There have been tonnes of great albums out this year, and still every post (almost exclusively) contains tool/pearl jam/rhcp/wolfmother. Maybe some of these people listen to lots of music and honestly choose to prefer these albums. I don't begrudge them that. I have a sneaking suspicion that these albums are on there because they are the only albums these people know about/have listened to this year, and I honestly think that is pretty lame. Maybe that makes me a snob, I don't know. I like to give everything a shot, and I wish other people would to. I listened to the Tool album a good 5 times to see if I missed anything when it didn't do anything for me the first time (turns out I didn't really). I don't know why I care so much about what other people listen to, maybe I don't, and maybe I just think it is lame that they are limiting themselves, and that's why I said that. Sorry if I'm a prick for saying what I'm thinking out loud.
On the other ahnd, I KNOW I'm a major prick for writing this much crap on really nothing at all. Sorry to anyone who read it. Hope it made some time of sense
and thanks for the vote of confidence JSBE, probably the first to say something along those lines. I appreciate it.
I dont know any indie elitist that likes the Arcade Fire, Wilco, and RADIOHEAD especially.
I thought it was cool to hate those bands.
"What’s Orphans? I don’t know. Orphans is a dead end kid driving a coffin with big tires across the Ohio River wearing welding goggles and a wife beater with a lit firecracker in his ear." - Tom Waits
well, HTTT had a lot of down moments but the previous 4 were all pretty sweet, if you ask me.
I think it is cool to hate on any band pfork gives greater than an 8.5, and this goes for both indie elitists and mainstream superheroes
I'm somewhat of a pitchfork hater myself, actually....but they have been right on with a few records, like the band of horses thing and giving I See a Darkness a 10.
the new pearl jam was definitely deserving of more than a 5.5, though.
"What’s Orphans? I don’t know. Orphans is a dead end kid driving a coffin with big tires across the Ohio River wearing welding goggles and a wife beater with a lit firecracker in his ear." - Tom Waits
I'm somewhat of a pitchfork hater myself, actually....but they have been right on with a few records, like the band of horses thing and giving I See a Darkness a 10.
the new pearl jam was definitely deserving of more than a 5.5, though.
5.5 sat about right with me, but I know lots of people (especially around here holy shit) that will disagree with every single major album rating they've given out lately. I disagree with a lot of their stuff, namely BtS getting a low 6 or whatever. I still think that is a great album.
If they give an album a 10, they are usually pretty on the money, I haven't seen many shitty albums get a perfect score. If they give something a 9 or high 8 they are usually on it, but you really have to take it with a grain of salt because sometimes they give average albums phenomenal marks for some reason which is beyond me.
I think the buig problem most people have is that they rate their favourite albums too low, at which point I say fuck 'em, I don't need a music reviews site's validation to like music. So I don't harbour any huge amount of hate towards them, but neither do I really follow what they say that much. All my favourite albums this year I had my paws on before pitchfork could rate them, anyways.
They are a hitmaker in the indie world, though. Especially in some of the downlaoding communities
It's definitely one of my favorites (if not my favorite right now) of 2006.
"What’s Orphans? I don’t know. Orphans is a dead end kid driving a coffin with big tires across the Ohio River wearing welding goggles and a wife beater with a lit firecracker in his ear." - Tom Waits
To speak the very truth, I hate a band or an album because it sucks, not because it is popular. If it is good, I'll like it, no matter how popular it is.....I don't know why I care so much about what other people listen to, maybe I don't, and maybe I just think it is lame that they are limiting themselves, and that's why I said that. Sorry if I'm a prick for saying what I'm thinking out loud.
echoes, i've seen enough of your posts to be pretty damn sure i was going to see you post something to the effect of what you posted.
to put it very simplistic, almost forrest gumpish - i like the music i like and don't like what i don't. i'll give anything a listen -more on the free samples or mp3s as opposed to the straight - out blind buy these days due to the combination of getting 'burned' too many times / bills and expenses.
i used to be a so-called indie snob if you will, but it was something i grew out of.
as for pitchfork - their ratings are so formulaic i can literally guess within a few tenths of a point as to what they will give any album. you know they were not going to give pearl jam a 9 or tool an 8.5 so i really don't know why people are shocked (unless they were just introduced to pitchfork or think the musical universe revolves around pearl jam, which a lot here do). if they give an album something really high (ie - 8.5+) i will check it out, but most of the stuff they trump isn't my thing.
I think the big problem most people have is that they rate their favourite albums too low, at which point I say fuck 'em, I don't need a music reviews site's validation to like music.
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Oh my, they dropped the leash.
Morgan Freeman/Clint Eastwood 08' for President!
"Make our day"
indeed he does.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
and pearl jam "pearl jam"
Man Man - Six Demon Bag
Islands - Return to the Sea
Derek Trucks Band - Songlines
Boris - Pink
Drive-by Truckers - Blessing and a Curse
and maybe Mono and Mogwai, but there's way too many to come out in the future that would come into that list.
If you can't get high on purely music and the sounds that you hear, you're missing out on something.
i love you but i've chosen darkness - fear is on our side
dbt - blessing and a curse
I've gotta add a few:
the Loose Fur record is great, as is "Everything all the Time" by Band of Horses.
one of the best records released this year is Built To Spill - You In Reverse.
it is really good, just not as good as perfect from now on or keep it like a secret...but way better than ancient melodies...
"Oh yeah? Which president's on it?"
"Uh, all of them. They're having a party. Jimmy Carter's passed out on the couch."
Columbus 2000
Columbus 2003
Hershey 2003
Toledo 2004
Cincinnati 2006
Chicago/Lollapalooza 2007
Columbus 2010
Chicago/Wrigley 2013
Pittsburgh 2013
Portland 2013
Cincinnati 2014
The Black Keys
RHCP- Stadium Arcadium
Sam Roberts- Chemical City
Godsmack- IV
UNDER A BILLION SONS -- Mudhoney
look out guys... it's the way-cooler-than-you indie rock fan. he's rocking to bands you've never HEARD of. if your album sells more than 1000 copies, you're obviously pop trash and he wont listen to you so you better make sure your music is unlistenable!
get over yourself dude. you remind me of my punk ass roomate from college and he need to have that stick removed from his egotistic arsehole too.
my fav album this year? pearl jam. built to spill was ok but not what i'd hoped for.
Flaming Lips - War with the Mystics
PJ - PJ
PJ - every bootleg
others that I've liked this year are:
Arctic Monkeys - Whatever You Say I Am, That's What I'm Not
Mogwai - Mr Beast
Hundred Reasons - Kill Your Own
and Taking Back Sunday - Louder Now
Manchester - 4/6/2000
London - 20/4/2006
Dublin - 23/8/2006
London - 18/6/2007
New York City - 24/6/2008
New York City - 25/6/2008 - we will be "what is up" New York
Manchester - 18/8/2009
London - 18/6/2018
1000 Days
Wolfmother
...and not implying any bias at all, PJ is head and shoulders above 'em!
echoes has good taste in music, so sorry if you don't know any of the tons of awesome bands that are outside of your commercial 'alternative rock' fm station...
pearl jam, chili peppers and tool won't be in my top 10 come the end of the year. maybe tool will be, but they are all good albums, just not really my main thing anymore.
I'm sure Destoyer has sold more than 1000 copies, and I still like them. I'm sorry that just because I don't think any of the new releases by the radio darlings aren't any good (although some of them have some good tracks) it makes me the cooler than you indie rock fan. Indie is pretty much just as mainstream as any other rock and roll out there, and to think that all the bands are playing in tiny dank clubs and selling hundreds of copies alone is a fallacy. True, they may not be making loads of money and they may not be headlining festivals and they may not be playing arena shows, but they are hardly "unknowns." There is a rapidly increasing fanbase and set of people who are educating them selves, for better or for worse, about what alternatives there are to top 40 acts like the chili peppers, tool, and pearl jam (and of late, the white stripes/wolfmother).
I don't consider myself a holier than thou indie wank simply because I know there are tens of thousands of them across the world. I don't think very many of the bands I listen to are "true unknowns" in the sense that no one knows of them. That is just how I feel, but maybe I'm wrong. Basically, Labelling someone as an indie prat because we listen to bands you haven't heard of, and are disliking albums you are liking. To speak the very truth, I hate a band or an album because it sucks, not because it is popular. If it is good, I'll like it, no matter how popular it is, examples being stuff like the Arcade Fire and Wilco and Pavement, and Radiohead. And the first half of Tool's career.
As for the "all so lame"? I guess I was just expressing an unhapiness with everyone's willingness to stick with what they know, especially given so much choice these day. There have been tonnes of great albums out this year, and still every post (almost exclusively) contains tool/pearl jam/rhcp/wolfmother. Maybe some of these people listen to lots of music and honestly choose to prefer these albums. I don't begrudge them that. I have a sneaking suspicion that these albums are on there because they are the only albums these people know about/have listened to this year, and I honestly think that is pretty lame. Maybe that makes me a snob, I don't know. I like to give everything a shot, and I wish other people would to. I listened to the Tool album a good 5 times to see if I missed anything when it didn't do anything for me the first time (turns out I didn't really). I don't know why I care so much about what other people listen to, maybe I don't, and maybe I just think it is lame that they are limiting themselves, and that's why I said that. Sorry if I'm a prick for saying what I'm thinking out loud.
On the other ahnd, I KNOW I'm a major prick for writing this much crap on really nothing at all. Sorry to anyone who read it. Hope it made some time of sense
and thanks for the vote of confidence JSBE, probably the first to say something along those lines. I appreciate it.
I dont know any indie elitist that likes the Arcade Fire, Wilco, and RADIOHEAD especially.
I thought it was cool to hate those bands.
well, HTTT had a lot of down moments but the previous 4 were all pretty sweet, if you ask me.
I think it is cool to hate on any band pfork gives greater than an 8.5, and this goes for both indie elitists and mainstream superheroes
I'm somewhat of a pitchfork hater myself, actually....but they have been right on with a few records, like the band of horses thing and giving I See a Darkness a 10.
the new pearl jam was definitely deserving of more than a 5.5, though.
tie for second is...
Sonic Youth - Rather Ripped
Ministry - Rio Grande Blood - June9th baby...Ottawa
5.5 sat about right with me, but I know lots of people (especially around here holy shit) that will disagree with every single major album rating they've given out lately. I disagree with a lot of their stuff, namely BtS getting a low 6 or whatever. I still think that is a great album.
If they give an album a 10, they are usually pretty on the money, I haven't seen many shitty albums get a perfect score. If they give something a 9 or high 8 they are usually on it, but you really have to take it with a grain of salt because sometimes they give average albums phenomenal marks for some reason which is beyond me.
I think the buig problem most people have is that they rate their favourite albums too low, at which point I say fuck 'em, I don't need a music reviews site's validation to like music. So I don't harbour any huge amount of hate towards them, but neither do I really follow what they say that much. All my favourite albums this year I had my paws on before pitchfork could rate them, anyways.
They are a hitmaker in the indie world, though. Especially in some of the downlaoding communities
It's definitely one of my favorites (if not my favorite right now) of 2006.
echoes, i've seen enough of your posts to be pretty damn sure i was going to see you post something to the effect of what you posted.
to put it very simplistic, almost forrest gumpish - i like the music i like and don't like what i don't. i'll give anything a listen -more on the free samples or mp3s as opposed to the straight - out blind buy these days due to the combination of getting 'burned' too many times / bills and expenses.
i used to be a so-called indie snob if you will, but it was something i grew out of.
as for pitchfork - their ratings are so formulaic i can literally guess within a few tenths of a point as to what they will give any album. you know they were not going to give pearl jam a 9 or tool an 8.5 so i really don't know why people are shocked (unless they were just introduced to pitchfork or think the musical universe revolves around pearl jam, which a lot here do). if they give an album something really high (ie - 8.5+) i will check it out, but most of the stuff they trump isn't my thing.
bingo.
stupid ten characters.
Pearl Jam's new album is right up there...
But for those who haven't got Wolfmother's album you be mad not to give it a go, great album and gets you going...
A few people have said 10,000 days, I was actually a little dissapointed... Lateralus was awesome and I have found 10,000 days a long way off...
Strokes is cool....
Either way, play count for Pearl Jam album in iTunes is up to 60...
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yes I'm eagerly awaiting that as well. its tomorrow!!!
in answer to the original question,
Pearl Jam
Living With War
Stadium Arcadium
honorable mention to Springsteen, Seeger sessions.
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go with The Grates - Gravity Won't Get You High