how much credit do the Beatles deserve?

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  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    soulsinging wrote:
    the point is, he seemed to be fucking up a lot in the later days, about 50% of his songs failed in execution and came off as incredibly cheesy and saccharine. even ringo's songs were better. by the end, paul was as much a parody as elvis in vegas. you could almost see him in a sequined suit on a vegas stage grinning with a line of dancers behind him as he put on a family friendly show sponsored by disney.


    Nah, John was worse. Have you heard Mind Games, side two?
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    Nah, John was worse. Have you heard Mind Games, side two?

    that wasn't a beatles album, was it? john was by no means perfect, paul just became incredibly lame by the end of the beatles.
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    Nah, John was worse. Have you heard Mind Games, side two?
    Have you seen the artwork of Ram?

    *vomits, then chokes on vomit, then curses McCartney for causing such a pathetic and unnecessary death*
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    soulsinging wrote:
    that wasn't a beatles album, was it? john was by no means perfect, paul just became incredibly lame by the end of the beatles.

    Lady Madonna, lame? Hey Jude, lame? Back in the USSR, lame? Martha My Dear, lame? (It's light and about a dog, but it's not lame.) Blackbird, lame? Rocky Raccoon, lame? I Will, lame? Birthday, lame? Mother Nature's Son, lame? Helter Skelter, lame? Two of Us, lame? Let It Be, lame? Get Back, lame? The Long and Winding Road, lame? You Never Give Me Your Money, lame? Golden Slumbers, Lame? Carry That Weight, lame? The End, lame? Her Majesty, lame? (Okay, I got carried away with the last one.)
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Have you seen the artwork of Ram?

    *vomits, then chokes on vomit, then curses McCartney for causing such a pathetic and unnecessary death*


    It was an anti-prog album statement, maaaaaaaan.
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    Lady Madonna, lame? Hey Jude, lame? Back in the USSR, lame? Martha My Dear, lame? (It's light and about a dog, but it's not lame.) Blackbird, lame? Rocky Raccoon, lame? I Will, lame? Birthday, lame? Mother Nature's Son, lame? Helter Skelter, lame? Two of Us, lame? Let It Be, lame? Get Back, lame? The Long and Winding Road, lame? You Never Give Me Your Money, lame? Golden Slumbers, Lame? Carry That Weight, lame? The End, lame? Her Majesty, lame? (Okay, I got carried away with the last one.)
    Hey Jude is the worst song ever.
    As for the rest, fair enough.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Hey Jude is the worst song ever.
    As for the rest, fair enough.

    You're joking.
  • Brez
    Brez Posts: 570
    Your friend is absolutely right. Owe it all to the Beatles.
    And before his first step... He's off again...
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    Martha My Dear, lame? (It's light and about a dog, but it's not lame.) Rocky Raccon, lame? I Will, lame? Mother Nature's Son, lame?The Long and Winding Road, lame? Her Majesty, lame? (Okay, I got carried away with the last one.)

    yes to those (though i really like rocky raccon, it's the only kinda corny paul song i really dig, but it's still corny). plus the ones already mentioned. plus others. im not saying he didnt write a lot of great songs. im not saying his contributions to the beatles were negligible. im not even saying his best work wasnt better than john's. im just saying he's also responsible for the absolute worst, cheesiest, cornyball songs they ever produced, even above and beyond ringo. his best work may be slightly better than john's, but his worst stuff is light years worse than john's.
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    Stones are better
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Hey Jude is the worst song ever.
    As for the rest, fair enough.

    :D

    worst critique ever :D
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • glasshouse
    glasshouse Posts: 1,762
    the Beatles will always be regarded as the most important band, just as Nirvana will always be considered more important than Pearl Jam. life is tough.

    i prefer Led Zeppelin and Bob Dylan to the Beatles.
    i don't like Nirvana at all.

    ain't going to change nothing though.
    Athens, Greece: 2006/09/30

    "Call me Ishmael. Some years ago- never mind how long precisely- having little or no money in my purse, and nothing particular to interest me on shore, I thought I would sail about a little and see the watery part of the world." Herman Melville : Moby Dick
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    You're joking.
    Nope :) well... maybe not the absolute worst. McCartney has worse. I hate it though. It's certainly the most unnecessarily praised song ever :D It's SO bad.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    soulsinging wrote:
    yes to those (though i really like rocky raccon, it's the only kinda corny paul song i really dig, but it's still corny). plus the ones already mentioned. plus others. im not saying he didnt write a lot of great songs. im not saying his contributions to the beatles were negligible. im not even saying his best work wasnt better than john's. im just saying he's also responsible for the absolute worst, cheesiest, cornyball songs they ever produced, even above and beyond ringo. his best work may be slightly better than john's, but his worst stuff is light years worse than john's.

    I dunno. I'd take Maxwell's Silver Hammer over Sun King, any day.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    I dunno. I'd take Maxwell's Silver Hammer over Sun King, any day.

    fair enough. im not a huge fan of sun king. but it bores me. ill take a song that just bores me over one that is so annoying it makes me question the beatles in general.
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    soulsinging wrote:
    fair enough. im not a huge fan of sun king. but it bores me. ill take a song that just bores me over one that is so annoying it makes me question the beatles in general.
    Quoted for emphasis.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"

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