the beatles

FinsburyParkCarrots

Read the book "Revolution in the Head", by Ian MacDonald.

http://www.siue.edu/~aho/musov/altfan/revhead.html

GRIMMY

I read the news today oh, boy
About a lucky man who made the grade
And though the news was rather sad
Well, i just had to laugh
I saw the photograph
He blew his mind out in a car
He didn't notice that the lights had changed
A crowd of people stood and stared
They'd seen his face before
Nobody was really sure if he was from the house of lords

I saw a film today oh, boy
The english army had just won the war
A crowd of people turned away
But i just had to look
Having read the book
I love to turn you on.

Woke up, got out of bed
Dragged a comb across my head
Found my way downstairs and drank a cup
And looking up, i noticed i was late
Found my coat and grabbed my hat
Made the bus in seconds flat
Found my way upstairs and had a smoke
Somebody spoke and i went into a dream
Ah

I read the news today oh, boy
Four thousand holes in blackburn, lancashire
And though the holes were rather small
They had to count them all
Now they know how many holes it takes to fill the albert hall
I'd love to turn you on

lucylespian

kdpjam wrote:

just stick with zeppelin then.

You know, that's about the closest anyone on these forums have come to acknowledging the validity of a point of view they did not agree with.

I am more than happy for anyone to love the Beatles, all power to you dudes !! I am old and brain dead, not young and ignorant, but the unyielding opinionation was starting to bug me, so I just had to rattle the cage !!
I think the monkey song kinda re-inforces my point about dopey lyrics, adn seriously, how many times can you repeat teh same lines in a song and still expect credibility, reminds me of Simple Minds from teh Eighties, more like Simple Songs, like "Don't you, forget about me" repeated about 50 times, or "love song ", repeated about 100.

FinsburyParkCarrots

lucylespian wrote:

You know, that's about the closest anyone on these forums have come to acknowledging the validity of a point of view they did not agree with.

I am more than happy for anyone to love the Beatles, all power to you dudes !! I am old and brain dead, not young and ignorant, but the unyielding opinionation was starting to bug me, so I just had to rattle the cage !!
I think the monkey song kinda re-inforces my point about dopey lyrics, adn seriously, how many times can you repeat teh same lines in a song and still expect credibility, reminds me of Simple Minds from teh Eighties, more like Simple Songs, like "Don't you, forget about me" repeated about 50 times, or "love song ", repeated about 100.

There's a huge difference between Lennon and some crap, anthemic eighties band. The "Monkey song", as you call it, isn't just about Yoko, as is often presumed, but about heroin addiction: having a monkey on your back is junkie slang. The use of repetition and childlike rhyme intentionally simulates the persistance and childlike pain of withdrawal pangs. Lennon explored the relationship between heroin withdrawal and his childhood traumas to greater effect, in his "primal scream" album, "John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band" (1970).


You know, Yoko Ono's "Why" is really another way of singing "Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except For Me And My Monkey":

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=43356822

Click "Why", track two.

lucylespian

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seanw1010

wolfbear wrote:

You are either really young or brain dead. Sorry, but the Beatles pioneered much of what we listen to today. Do some research and you'll understand.

thank chuck berry not the beatles
btw, i think they were great, just a little too pop forme

GRIMMY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wmr_7xq6E5Q
Doesnt seem that POPPY to me...

i_am_a_wishlist

I am 20. I LOVE the Beatles. I have Revolver, Sgt Peppers, The White Album, Abby Road and Let it Be. Age has got nothing much to do with liking timeless music. However many people my age are musically ignorant and swallow any pop crap the record intustry can throw at them.

nowayimfaithfull

decides2dream wrote:

seriously, is there such a thing as TOO much of a good thing? oh my, i cannot get enough of abbey road today, but they are just completely brilliant anyway you slice it.

cmon now, show your love . . .



Oh yeah alright, are you gonna be in my dreams tonight?
And in the end the love you take is equal to the love you make.
Ah –

yes great stuff

Ledbetterman10

decides2dream wrote:

seriously, is there such a thing as TOO much of a good thing? oh my, i cannot get enough of abbey road today, but they are just completely brilliant anyway you slice it.

cmon now, show your love . . .



Oh yeah alright, are you gonna be in my dreams tonight?
And in the end the love you take is equal to the love you make.
Ah –

Sir Paul is without a doubt the MVP of the Abbey Road record

Ledbetterman10

lucylespian wrote:

Beatles, Shmeatles, how boring is this fucking band, my god, I nearly died the last time I heard a Beatles song!!
Funny bastards they were, but great music, NEVER !!
Cute trite forgettable little pop songs, the whole world must have been bored out of it's collective brain to go bananas over these guys.

I think I'm gonna go choke on a carrot !!

Happiness is a Warm Gun is a cute trite forgettable pop song? lol. I guess I should let you know that the Beatles.....yes THE BEATLES invented HEAVY METAL with Helter Skelter. That was the hardest rock track ever made until Led Zeppelin's first album came out!

they simply did everything that could be done

catefrances

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

Read the book "Revolution in the Head", by Ian MacDonald.

http://www.siue.edu/~aho/musov/altfan/revhead.html

will there be a test sir?

Echoes

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

Happiness is a Warm Gun is a cute trite forgettable pop song? lol. I guess I should let you know that the Beatles.....yes THE BEATLES invented HEAVY METAL with Helter Skelter. That was the hardest rock track ever made until Led Zeppelin's first album came out!

they simply did everything that could be done

haha lol

facepollution

decides2dream wrote:

btw - i don't know why it's a 'british' assumption? i am not british. i don't think anyone 'should' be a beatles fan, although as i said..i personally cannot fathom why one wouldn't be. seriously tho, i simply think...one should at the very least, the important musical contributions made by them. one may do so objectively, while still disliking the music. and hey coolness on the stones and zeppelin love...i too feel that as well. i don't think any has to be mutually exclusive. and, no where did i at all suggest the beatles are the *best*....i simply was showin' some lovin' for a band that was most definitely ground-breaking at the very least...and sure, who's music i personally adore.

It's like if you're British it's expected you should be 'proud of our boys', I don't know it's just the media I guess but it irritates me. There's something about Paul McCartney that really bugs me too, he always seems so smug. Also my mate was telling me the other day how he heard an interview with Paul McCartney where he was slagging off modern music and apparently he called Nirvana one of the most overrated bands ever. Which is a bit hypocritical since I saw him on an old tv programme called TFI Friday and when he was asked if there was any other band he could have been in, he said Nirvana.

statistics

the beatles are one of my top five bands of all time......

however, even their best albums are let down by the odd track [usually the token ringo number or macca's lyrical complacency:

rubber soul - what goes on
white album - don't pass me by
abbey road - maxwell's silver hammer
revolver - yellow submarine

Azwethinkweiz

i can't stand the beatles.

OVERRATED.

FinsburyParkCarrots

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC1CcXvNIJI&mode=related&search=

decides2dream

lucylespian wrote:

You know, that's about the closest anyone on these forums have come to acknowledging the validity of a point of view they did not agree with.

I am more than happy for anyone to love the Beatles, all power to you dudes !! I am old and brain dead, not young and ignorant, but the unyielding opinionation was starting to bug me, so I just had to rattle the cage !!
I think the monkey song kinda re-inforces my point about dopey lyrics, adn seriously, how many times can you repeat teh same lines in a song and still expect credibility, reminds me of Simple Minds from teh Eighties, more like Simple Songs, like "Don't you, forget about me" repeated about 50 times, or "love song ", repeated about 100.

seriously, when presented with a valid, albeit opposing, point of view...i have nothing but respect. i really didn't get much of a 'point of view' from your original post....beyond "trite, poppy songs"...and yea, i agreed i completely understand people not liking the music, BUT to dismiss it as 'trite'...is simply incorrect. hey, we're all entitled to our opinions, but certain things, yea...opinions can just be wrong. don't like the music...cool.......but to not appreciate and/or at least acknowledge the contributions made to music by the beatles, yea...that's not just something i disagree with with, but more like historically inaccurate.

anyhoo...in regards to saying it was "unyielding opinionation"...well ain't that what most of all this is about, sharing opinions...just as you did? however, beyond that....my first post clearly stated..."share the love"...so kinda obvious it was all about praise. cool to share a different perspective, but a thread with 'share the love' in the first post should be a tipoff that the main idea is/was...well, to share the love.

enjoy!


You've Got to Hide Your Love Away

Here I stand with head in hand,
Turn my face to the wall.
If she’s gone I can’t go on,
Feeling two foot small.
Ev’rywhere people stare,
Each and ev’ry day.
I can see them laugh at me,
And I hear them say.
Hey, you’ve got hide your love away.
Hey, you’ve got hide your love away.
How can I even try,
I can never win,
Hearing them, seeing them,
In the state I’m in.
How could she say to me
Love will find a way?
Gather round all you clowns
Let me hear you say.
Hey, you’ve got hide your love away.
Hey, you’ve got hide your love away.





btw - fins, thanks for the book recommendation. looks quite intriguing.


facepollution, again, i hear ya. however, you are now allowing the media, and/or your idea of the 'person' behind the music...cloud your view of the music. i know people who think ed is all that you describe about paul....so yea, whateva. i hear much discussion about bono in a similar vein. now whether i agree with any of those opinions is completely irrelevant in weighly the validity and value of the MUSIC...and that's what it should always be about; not the media, not personal egos/agendas, and not even the success of the band/artists...but simply, the music.

wolfbear

Wow! I haven't revisited this thread for a while. I'm truly sorry if I offended. Thanks Dreams for sticking up for me. What I guess I was trying to convey, is the Beatles influence was not only in their music, but the way it was produced. It was a great advancement at the time and a new way of recording, etc. You don't have to like the music, but you probably like the outcome.

nowayimfaithfull

wolfbear wrote:

Wow! I haven't revisited this thread for a while. I'm truly sorry if I offended. Thanks Dreams for sticking up for me. What I guess I was trying to convey, is the Beatles influence was not only in their music, but the way it was produced. It was a great advancement at the time and a new way of recording, etc. You don't have to like the music, but you probably like the outcome.

the beetles did what the others before them didnt

they used their creativity

they mixed up the norm and the outcome just kept geting better and better.

there were others but not on the level of the beetles.

these guys had the voices