the beatles

decides2dream

seriously, is there such a thing as TOO much of a good thing? oh my, i cannot get enough of abbey road today, but they are just completely brilliant anyway you slice it.

cmon now, show your love . . .



Oh yeah alright, are you gonna be in my dreams tonight?
And in the end the love you take is equal to the love you make.
Ah –

FinsburyParkCarrots

Best band ever.

mwachsman

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

Best band ever.

5th

"Imagen" my thoughts

i've been learning blackbird by the beatles on my guitar. great song

black88

Its interesting that, individually, none of The Beatles ever wrote music that was anywhere near as good as what it was when they were writing together. The White Album is one of the greatest musical creations of all time. I could listen to While My Guitar Gently Weeps ten thousand times in a row and not get sick of it.

kdpjam

i love the beatles! and i have been stuck on abbey road too, lately. my ears never get tired of their music.

somebodyelsessky2020

I love the Beatles too..they are almost as good as Pearl Jam

lucylespian

Beatles, Shmeatles, how boring is this fucking band, my god, I nearly died the last time I heard a Beatles song!!
Funny bastards they were, but great music, NEVER !!
Cute trite forgettable little pop songs, the whole world must have been bored out of it's collective brain to go bananas over these guys.

I think I'm gonna go choke on a carrot !!

wolfbear

lucylespian wrote:

Beatles, Shmeatles, how boring is this fucking band, my god, I nearly died the last time I heard a Beatles song!!
Funny bastards they were, but great music, NEVER !!
Cute trite forgettable little pop songs, the whole world must have been bored out of it's collective brain to go bananas over these guys.

I think I'm gonna go choke on a carrot !!

You are either really young or brain dead. Sorry, but the Beatles pioneered much of what we listen to today. Do some research and you'll understand.

red mos

Rubber soul, and the white album are my faves - just awesome!

decides2dream

wolfbear wrote:

You are either really young or brain dead. Sorry, but the Beatles pioneered much of what we listen to today. Do some research and you'll understand.

haha. what wolfbear said.


seriously though, while i personally cannot fathom not at least liking the beatles, i do understand some not enjoying their music. however, wolfbear is 100% correct in saying that if all you see/hear is trite pop songs, you clearly are not paying attention and simply do not get it. rock music owes a great debt to the beatles....and yea, i personally think they are totally, utterly and completely brilliant. somtimes, simplicity is the greatest/wisest/most difficult choice......and far more impressive than complexity filled with nothing.


now, i won't say i love EVERY tune the beatles have put out there, but damn close...and even their weakest album, damn impressive. what a serious repertoire of greatness.

Bleakest Harvest

I love the Beatles, but I only own Sgt. peppers...I need to get Abbey Road and the White Album, because i've heard from them sounds excellent.

facepollution

wolfbear wrote:

You are either really young or brain dead. Sorry, but the Beatles pioneered much of what we listen to today. Do some research and you'll understand.

That's neither here nor there. If you were to take that argument, then you would have to look back even further to the bands that influenced The Beatles themselves. Whilst I totally appreciate what The Beatles did for music, even the most ardent fan can surely admit that a lot of their success was influenced by time and place? Like I said, all due respect to them, but to state like a lot of people do that they were the best band ever seems such a ridiculously wild statement, like there couldn't have been a better band in the 40 YEARS since they were about.

Bleakest Harvest

Well to me they're not the greatest band ever because there's plenty of bands i'd listen to over them, but I can at least appreciate their masterly songwriting and listen to them in the context of their time.

kdpjam

lucylespian wrote:

Beatles, Shmeatles, how boring is this fucking band, my god, I nearly died the last time I heard a Beatles song!!
Funny bastards they were, but great music, NEVER !!
Cute trite forgettable little pop songs, the whole world must have been bored out of it's collective brain to go bananas over these guys.

I think I'm gonna go choke on a carrot !!

just stick with zeppelin then.

decides2dream

facepollution wrote:

That's neither here nor there. If you were to take that argument, then you would have to look back even further to the bands that influenced The Beatles themselves. Whilst I totally appreciate what The Beatles did for music, even the most ardent fan can surely admit that a lot of their success was influenced by time and place? Like I said, all due respect to them, but to state like a lot of people do that they were the best band ever seems such a ridiculously wild statement, like there couldn't have been a better band in the 40 YEARS since they were about.

absolutely. i don't even think wolfbear was looking towards their success, but simply...the influence. and sure, all of us, bands included, are influence by those who preceeded us. however, one at the very least should admit/acknowledge that the beatles had a VERY large influence, whereas many, many other bands did not. and sure, while some may refer to the beatles as 'the' greatest, again, i don't think wolfbear was....simply pointing out that yes, they were/are important/relevant. many bands can make no such claim. liking or disliking the music is irrelevant for any of those points.


anyway, i LOVE em.

facepollution

decides2dream wrote:

absolutely. i don't even think wolfbear was looking towards their success, but simply...the influence. and sure, all of us, bands included, are influence by those who preceeded us. however, one at the very least should admit/acknowledge that the beatles had a VERY large influence, whereas many, many other bands did not. and sure, while some may refer to the beatles as 'the' greatest, again, i don't think wolfbear was....simply pointing out that yes, they were/are important/relevant. many bands can make no such claim. liking or disliking the music is irrelevant for any of those points.


anyway, i LOVE em.

Yeah I hear what you are saying, but to me it's kind of like the situation with Nirvana, they were certainly the most important 'grunge' band, because without them, the chances are the whole Seattle scene would never have been discovered. However they certainly weren't the best band to come from the scene. The Beatles benefitted from the fact that they were the right type of band at the right time. This is of course not to say that they weren't extremely good at what they did, but had it not been their time, they may never have been given the chance to become huge. Does that make sense? I guess I just get irritated by the very British assumption that you should be a Beatles fan just because they were The Beatles. I personally find the Stones and Zeppelin far more exciting to listen to.

Pearls&Stones

Personally, I love the Beatles. Much like The Rolling Stones, The Who, Buddy Holly and Queen, I completely get their music without haviing been born in their era.

My favorite Beatles.....

Eleanor Rigby, Rocky Racoon, A Day in the Life, We Can Work It Out, Let it Be, Yesterday, All You Need is Love, Penny Lane, and all of Abbey Road

GRIMMY

I dont think age matters when it comes to the Beatles.Im 29 now And all my life I have been listen to them.Revolver is one of my fav. A DAY IN THE LIFE could be my fav song but like Pearl Jam its hard to pick one...BEATLES AND PEARL JAM Ive gone and went to heaven!! on this thread..I could talk about either one all day...NICE CALL ON THIS THREAD!!!!



I ONCE HAD A GIRL..OR SHOULD I SAY..SHE ONCE HAD ME.....norwgien wood

aNiMaL

Dreamn....great thread!!!

Abbey Road is one of my most favorite albums of all time!!!

I have never heard a Beatles tune I didn't just absolutely love. Listening to every album really gives you a sense of where they were all at in their lives during that particular record.

I shall go home tonight and bust out my Abbey Road vinyl and give it a spin. Then maybe Revolver.

decides2dream

facepollution wrote:

Yeah I hear what you are saying, but to me it's kind of like the situation with Nirvana, they were certainly the most important 'grunge' band, because without them, the chances are the whole Seattle scene would never have been discovered. However they certainly weren't the best band to come from the scene. The Beatles benefitted from the fact that they were the right type of band at the right time. This is of course not to say that they weren't extremely good at what they did, but had it not been their time, they may never have been given the chance to become huge. Does that make sense? I guess I just get irritated by the very British assumption that you should be a Beatles fan just because they were The Beatles. I personally find the Stones and Zeppelin far more exciting to listen to.

absolutely makes sense. however, i think you may be reading more into mine, and wolfbear's, commetns...more than what was actually presented. neither one of us even remotely pushed the agenda of the beatles, or any band for that matter, being the *greatest* ever. personally, i do not believe in their being one *greatest* anything....and besides, that is delving into the highly sujective area of personal taste.

however, in a much more objective fashion...we can look at the contributions an individual or group may make to their field, and how they have, or have not, permanently changed the landscape of such...not to be the same since, due to their contributions. i think that is what wolfbear was aiming at - and of course, forgive me wolfbear if i am misinterpreting - but for me, that is really what i am focusing on here in response to the whole 'beatles, schmeatles' issue.

now, while i personally see nothing to dislike about the beatles...and whereas, in fact, i find much to love....again as already stated, i realize, taste is a VERY subjective thing. BUT to discount the VERY reral, important contributions they have made to rock music specifically, and music in general...is simply refusing to see the 'bigger picture.' that's all.


btw - i don't know why it's a 'british' assumption? i am not british. i don't think anyone 'should' be a beatles fan, although as i said..i personally cannot fathom why one wouldn't be. seriously tho, i simply think...one should at the very least, the important musical contributions made by them. one may do so objectively, while still disliking the music. and hey coolness on the stones and zeppelin love...i too feel that as well. i don't think any has to be mutually exclusive. and, no where did i at all suggest the beatles are the *best*....i simply was showin' some lovin' for a band that was most definitely ground-breaking at the very least...and sure, who's music i personally adore.

so yea...it was all about sharin' the love. :cool:



i mean, cmon...what's not to love?


Everybody's Got SOmething to Hide Except for Me and My Monkey

Come on come on come on come on
Come on is such a joy
Come on is such a joy
Come on take it easy
Come on take it easy.
Take it easy take it easy.
Everybody’s got something to hide except for me and my monkey.
The deeper you go the higher you fly.
The higher you fly the deeper you go.
So come on come on
Come on is such a joy
Come on is such a joy
Come on take it easy
Come on take it easy.
Take it easy take it easy.
Everybody’s got something to hide except for me and my monkey.
Your inside is out and your outside is in.
Your outside is in and your inside is out.
So come on come on
Come on is such a joy
Come on is such a joy
Come on take it easy
Come on take it easy.
Take it easy take it easy.
Everybody’s got something to hide except for me and my monkey.







btw - i have show mucho, mucho love for ld zep...endlessly on this very board, moreso over in the AET forum before we all got well-behaved and learned to post in the proper forums. haha. and yea, as a young teen...i had the 'sticky fingers' mouth painted on the back of my jean jacket. :cool:

FinsburyParkCarrots

Read the book "Revolution in the Head", by Ian MacDonald.

http://www.siue.edu/~aho/musov/altfan/revhead.html

GRIMMY

I read the news today oh, boy
About a lucky man who made the grade
And though the news was rather sad
Well, i just had to laugh
I saw the photograph
He blew his mind out in a car
He didn't notice that the lights had changed
A crowd of people stood and stared
They'd seen his face before
Nobody was really sure if he was from the house of lords

I saw a film today oh, boy
The english army had just won the war
A crowd of people turned away
But i just had to look
Having read the book
I love to turn you on.

Woke up, got out of bed
Dragged a comb across my head
Found my way downstairs and drank a cup
And looking up, i noticed i was late
Found my coat and grabbed my hat
Made the bus in seconds flat
Found my way upstairs and had a smoke
Somebody spoke and i went into a dream
Ah

I read the news today oh, boy
Four thousand holes in blackburn, lancashire
And though the holes were rather small
They had to count them all
Now they know how many holes it takes to fill the albert hall
I'd love to turn you on

lucylespian

kdpjam wrote:

just stick with zeppelin then.

You know, that's about the closest anyone on these forums have come to acknowledging the validity of a point of view they did not agree with.

I am more than happy for anyone to love the Beatles, all power to you dudes !! I am old and brain dead, not young and ignorant, but the unyielding opinionation was starting to bug me, so I just had to rattle the cage !!
I think the monkey song kinda re-inforces my point about dopey lyrics, adn seriously, how many times can you repeat teh same lines in a song and still expect credibility, reminds me of Simple Minds from teh Eighties, more like Simple Songs, like "Don't you, forget about me" repeated about 50 times, or "love song ", repeated about 100.

FinsburyParkCarrots

lucylespian wrote:

You know, that's about the closest anyone on these forums have come to acknowledging the validity of a point of view they did not agree with.

I am more than happy for anyone to love the Beatles, all power to you dudes !! I am old and brain dead, not young and ignorant, but the unyielding opinionation was starting to bug me, so I just had to rattle the cage !!
I think the monkey song kinda re-inforces my point about dopey lyrics, adn seriously, how many times can you repeat teh same lines in a song and still expect credibility, reminds me of Simple Minds from teh Eighties, more like Simple Songs, like "Don't you, forget about me" repeated about 50 times, or "love song ", repeated about 100.

There's a huge difference between Lennon and some crap, anthemic eighties band. The "Monkey song", as you call it, isn't just about Yoko, as is often presumed, but about heroin addiction: having a monkey on your back is junkie slang. The use of repetition and childlike rhyme intentionally simulates the persistance and childlike pain of withdrawal pangs. Lennon explored the relationship between heroin withdrawal and his childhood traumas to greater effect, in his "primal scream" album, "John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band" (1970).


You know, Yoko Ono's "Why" is really another way of singing "Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except For Me And My Monkey":

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=43356822

Click "Why", track two.

lucylespian

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seanw1010

wolfbear wrote:

You are either really young or brain dead. Sorry, but the Beatles pioneered much of what we listen to today. Do some research and you'll understand.

thank chuck berry not the beatles
btw, i think they were great, just a little too pop forme

GRIMMY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wmr_7xq6E5Q
Doesnt seem that POPPY to me...

i_am_a_wishlist

I am 20. I LOVE the Beatles. I have Revolver, Sgt Peppers, The White Album, Abby Road and Let it Be. Age has got nothing much to do with liking timeless music. However many people my age are musically ignorant and swallow any pop crap the record intustry can throw at them.

nowayimfaithfull

decides2dream wrote:

seriously, is there such a thing as TOO much of a good thing? oh my, i cannot get enough of abbey road today, but they are just completely brilliant anyway you slice it.

cmon now, show your love . . .



Oh yeah alright, are you gonna be in my dreams tonight?
And in the end the love you take is equal to the love you make.
Ah –

yes great stuff

Ledbetterman10

decides2dream wrote:

seriously, is there such a thing as TOO much of a good thing? oh my, i cannot get enough of abbey road today, but they are just completely brilliant anyway you slice it.

cmon now, show your love . . .



Oh yeah alright, are you gonna be in my dreams tonight?
And in the end the love you take is equal to the love you make.
Ah –

Sir Paul is without a doubt the MVP of the Abbey Road record