Angrier than Rage Against the Machine?

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  • Mike_Muse_Rage
    Mike_Muse_Rage Posts: 677
    drivingrl wrote:
    You guys are gettin' really off topic with the whether-or-not-they're-politically-active-enough talk.
    Meh, it always happens in Rage threads; people like to complain.
  • pdalowsky
    pdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,235
    Joe2TheRevenge wrote:
    THEY ARE JUST MUSICIANS.

    With no real motivation to actually change anything, or else they would have been politicians instead.

    Every band has something to say, and contributes to causes they believe in. RATM yells louder, but there's plenty of bands who make a bigger impact. As big of a douche as Bono is, at least he knows the way to make change is to work WITH politicians instead of just complaining how none of them listen.

    RATM are a bunch of immature little boys who read too many Malcom X books.

    15 years of "revolution" and all they have accomplished is putting 20 million of their albums into the hands of metal fans who won't do shit to help anyone.

    Someone should tell RATM that eventually the spoiled baby who cries all the time starts to be ignored.


    you are clearly an idiot.

    Maybe you were ignorant to the fact that Zach didnt just sit in his Mansion and actually had a few months out on the front line with the Guerillas about 5 years ago...so rather than doing a Bono and asking everyone to stop world hunger by preaching from the stage at every concert whilst enjoying his somewhat exorbitant wealth with his more than luxorious lifestyle, he actually went out there without making a big deal about it and tried to make a difference. Not sure you'd see many rock stars doing that, exhanging gunfire doesnt sound like something you would do for fun now is it?

    RATM do not always compaign for the things I believe in, the cop killer episodes for example, but they do everything they support and organise with the upmost dedication and really do try to use their voice for the better good, as at the end of the day what better tool do we have as humans? its not like anyone can make a difference on their own so rallying support is the only way.

    Bob Geldof tried to wipe out world hunger and although on the face of it he failed, none of us can claim we are not aware of it, and he did make a small difference.....Rage do similar for what they belive in
  • Sian-of-the-dead
    Sian-of-the-dead Posts: 8,963
    Hatebreed, Born From Pain... loads of hardcore bands are way angrier than Rage.
    Been to this many PJ shows: Reading 2006 London 2007 Manchester & London 2009 Dublin, Belfast, London, Nijmegen & Berlin 2010 Manchester 1 & Manchester 2 2012...

    ... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Sian-of-the-dead wrote:
    Hatebreed, Born From Pain... loads of hardcore bands are way angrier than Rage.
    Yes.

    Also, loads of screamo/post-hardcore bands like pg.99
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • Sian-of-the-dead
    Sian-of-the-dead Posts: 8,963
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Yes.

    Also, loads of screamo/post-hardcore bands like pg.99

    Indeed. Hell, there's even Hip Hop angrier than Rage.
    Been to this many PJ shows: Reading 2006 London 2007 Manchester & London 2009 Dublin, Belfast, London, Nijmegen & Berlin 2010 Manchester 1 & Manchester 2 2012...

    ... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    pdalowsky wrote:
    maybe you were ignorant to the fact that Zach didnt just sit in his Mansion and actually had a few months out on the front line with the Guerillas about 5 years ago...so rather than doing a Bono and asking everyone to stop world hunger by preaching from the stage at every concert whilst enjoying his somewhat exorbitant wealth with his more than luxorious lifestyle, he actually went out there without making a big deal about it and tried to make a difference. Not sure you'd see many rock stars doing that, exhanging gunfire doesnt sound like something you would do for fun now is it?

    RATM do not always compaign for the things I believe in, the cop killer episodes for example, but they do everything they support and organise with the upmost dedication and really do try to use their voice for the better good, as at the end of the day what better tool do we have as humans? its not like anyone can make a difference on their own so rallying support is the only way.

    Bob Geldof tried to wipe out world hunger and although on the face of it he failed, none of us can claim we are not aware of it, and he did make a small difference.....Rage do similar for what they belive in

    Exactly. RATM might do stuff on a slightly more grass-roots level, but they're still standing up for the things they believe in. I find it quite laughable that multi-millionaires like Bono see fit to try and persuade the general public to give away their hard earned cash, when he could quite easily give away the vast majority of his wealth and still live a far more luxurious lifestyle than most people.
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Sian-of-the-dead wrote:
    Indeed. Hell, there's even Hip Hop angrier than Rage.
    There's a TON of hip-hop that's angrier :) Immortal Technique, Jedi Mind Tricks, Onyx etc.

    Technique is so angry that it's just funny at times. Needs to chill out.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • muppet
    muppet Posts: 980
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Nah, I've heard every song on every album.

    There's these things called opinions. You're allowed one, Joe2TheRevenge is allowed one, I'm allowed one.

    Plenty of Rage's songs are political in nature but, as someone has already said, however much a tosser he is, Bono actually makes progressive attempts to change things and works in a political atmosphere, often to the detriment to his music because, for better or worse, he feels compelled to. It's VERY easy to talk the talk but it's just cheap and meaningless if you don't walk the walk. Rage playing against a backdrop of Che portraits and shouting "Impeach the president" is nothing to get excited about. Every stoner in every university in the world with an unthumbed copy of Das Kapital can do that. If Rage want to use their stage to be a political force, that's fine. I'm in favour of bands speaking their minds. They need to be a little less naive about it all though, the only people who are listening are Rage fans.

    I agree that they've got to 'walk the walk'...but that's what they do. Are you not familliar with the stuff these guys have done? They'll always be known for their music first, but Rage have definately done a lot more than your average band who has a political opinion, like Pearl Jam.

    If people are just going to identify Rage by Killing In The Name...then fine, it's a good song I suppose. But they don't just spout out angry slogans.
  • Brain Of E
    Brain Of E Posts: 499
    Bono never shut down Wall Street.
    Down in the hole, Jesus tries to crack a smile beneath another shovel load.
  • PearlJamaholic
    PearlJamaholic Posts: 2,019
    Brain Of E wrote:
    Bono never shut down Wall Street.

    thats cause he doesnt know how to fly a plane...
    http://db.etree.org/PearlJamaholic

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