Chris Cornells new album produced by Timbaland

reversedarwinism

mrwalkerb wrote:

The problem with Chris Cornell is it's been almost a decade since he has done anything worth mentioning, I mean Audioslave was what it was but I was incredibly dissapointed by the complete pile of shit he called his second album, like Euphoria Morning was (and is) a good record, somewhere along the way he threw himself at the middle of the road. He's like the anti Mark Lanegan, instead of getting better the more solo work he releases and time he spends away from his band, Cornell just keeps falling towards footnote status

The second solo album is worst Cornell album, sure. It has some good tracks, just way less of a work then all the previous. I wouldn't say that qualifies as "keeps falling". We'll see what the next album does for him. And the album after that, and the album after that we have a long way to go with Cornell and I have a feeling he'll cover a lot of different ground. He may come back to the Euphoria Morning sound or he may not. It could be good either way. I have a feeling like it will be.

ii44

CHRIS' NEW CD IS TEH SUX IS DOES NOT SOUND LIKE sOUNDGARDEN aUDIOSLAVE MADE MY EARZ BLEED B CUZ IS WASNT SOUNDGARDN FIRE mATT GET soUNDGARDEN BACK 2GETHER KTHXBYE

Danimal

ii44 wrote:

CHRIS' NEW CD IS TEH SUX IS DOES NOT SOUND LIKE sOUNDGARDEN aUDIOSLAVE MADE MY EARZ BLEED B CUZ IS WASNT SOUNDGARDN FIRE mATT GET soUNDGARDEN BACK 2GETHER KTHXBYE

IS WHAT WHERE WHEN ON UNDER

Joe2TheRevenge

MrSmith wrote:

i think all twenty Cornell fans hang out on this board. Its laughable to think he is in the same league as Vedder.

i agree

Chris Cornell blows Eddie away a million times over vocally.

clarefromscotland

Timbaland and Cornell are a potentially fascinating pairing, I think - both are artists who have suffered from being pigeonholed in the past and I don't think either of them actually believe that there should be such a thing as genre for anyone who calls themselves creative. Timbaland is not purely an "urban" producer; he's also worked with artists like Bjork and Beck. And I'd certainly rather see CC step out of the rock/grunge box and try something genuinely different and innovative rather than doing duets with Vedder or teaming up with Jimmy Page. That would be sticking to the rules. This will involve breaking a few - and that's genuinely alternative.

Here's a quote that one of the guitarists from CC's live band, Peter Thorn, recently made on the Cornell forum about the album and what it might prove to be (and no, he didn't play on it) Interesting comparison he makes with Bowie.

"Think back 25 years ago, to another time... a killer rocker named David Bowie had just released his 17th (!!!) album, titled "Let's Dance", produced by Chic's Nile Rodgers.... He'd been many things up to that point, and some people might have thought, hmmmm this doesn't sound like Ziggy anymore.... Bowie had already surprised some people with "Low", the Brian Eno produced minimalist effort that followed the commercial sound of "Young Americans", and then collaborating with Queen on "Under Pressure"... But the man was stretching creatively, collaborating not just with Nile but with the late great Stevie Ray Vaughn, one of the greatest guitarists ever.....Bowie then went on to shape shift some more, experimenting with industrial, hip hop, and drum and bass styles, and more collaborations with guys like Brian Eno, and Trent Reznor - one of my favorite videos ever, and what a killer track, talk about not getting stagnant 25 years into your career. Anyways, you know what I'm getting at It's art, and it ain't supposed to be safe and predictable... let's all enjoy the ride."

So yeah...let the rawk fundamentalists whine if they want. If this new album with Timbaland turns out to be CC's "Let's Dance", and opens a whole new audience's ears to who he is and what he can do, I certainly won't be complaining.

reversedarwinism

clarefromscotland wrote:

Timbaland and Cornell are a potentially fascinating pairing, I think - both are artists who have suffered from being pigeonholed in the past and I don't think either of them actually believe that there should be such a thing as genre for anyone who calls themselves creative. Timbaland is not purely an "urban" producer; he's also worked with artists like Bjork and Beck. And I'd certainly rather see CC step out of the rock/grunge box and try something genuinely different and innovative rather than doing duets with Vedder or teaming up with Jimmy Page. That would be sticking to the rules. This will involve breaking a few - and that's genuinely alternative.

Here's a quote that one of the guitarists from CC's live band, Peter Thorn, recently made on the Cornell forum about the album and what it might prove to be (and no, he didn't play on it) Interesting comparison he makes with Bowie.

"Think back 25 years ago, to another time... a killer rocker named David Bowie had just released his 17th (!!!) album, titled "Let's Dance", produced by Chic's Nile Rodgers.... He'd been many things up to that point, and some people might have thought, hmmmm this doesn't sound like Ziggy anymore.... Bowie had already surprised some people with "Low", the Brian Eno produced minimalist effort that followed the commercial sound of "Young Americans", and then collaborating with Queen on "Under Pressure"... But the man was stretching creatively, collaborating not just with Nile but with the late great Stevie Ray Vaughn, one of the greatest guitarists ever.....Bowie then went on to shape shift some more, experimenting with industrial, hip hop, and drum and bass styles, and more collaborations with guys like Brian Eno, and Trent Reznor - one of my favorite videos ever, and what a killer track, talk about not getting stagnant 25 years into your career. Anyways, you know what I'm getting at It's art, and it ain't supposed to be safe and predictable... let's all enjoy the ride."

So yeah...let the rawk fundamentalists whine if they want. If this new album with Timbaland turns out to be CC's "Let's Dance", and opens a whole new audience's ears to who he is and what he can do, I certainly won't be complaining.

Like the Bowie comparisons. Bowie has is one of my favorites and has been since I can remember. When you said "teaming up with Jimmy Page", my heart skipped a beat. Thats a glorious dream I had never conjured up. Bowie has had an amazing career with all kinds of diversity, same with Neil young. They always sound like them selves but do different stuff. I'm thinking Cornell's career may be like that.

So, did any of his current band play on the album?

PJSEMPRE

Joe2TheRevenge wrote:

i agree

Chris Cornell blows Eddie away a million times over vocally.

Eddie is a better songwriter and frontman. Million times better.

blinddogsdontbelieve

PJSEMPRE wrote:

Eddie is a better songwriter and frontman. Million times better.

Songwriter or lyricist? Cornell wrote about half of Soundgarden music!! Not to mention almost all there lyrics. Granted he seems to have lost some of that magic as of late, but in his SG days was a prolific songwriter.

GoingToLukins

reversedarwinism wrote:

Like the Bowie comparisons. Bowie has is one of my favorites and has been since I can remember. When you said "teaming up with Jimmy Page", my heart skipped a beat. Thats a glorious dream I had never conjured up. Bowie has had an amazing career with all kinds of diversity, same with Neil young. They always sound like them selves but do different stuff. I'm thinking Cornell's career may be like that.

So, did any of his current band play on the album?

I heard from an inside source in Dec that it was likely but haven't heard anything since. I think Yogi recorded a solo album recently so I don't know what that means in terms of his availability. I guess we shall see :-)

sadprofessor

He has been dead to me since Audioslave.

nowayimfaithfull

lebeterman10, I usually agree with you, not hear though,
Chris is very talanted.
he has done some wierd shit unexplainable shit that has caused me to back off
he prob has a drug problem
his last album had alot of cheese on it, and the tour was lame
he never stays consistant with his associates either

ever

producers
bandmates
women
friends
he was all over every seattle bands jocks, and never even mentions them
he was tight with brendan obrien
rick rubin, steve lilywhite
the guys in audioslave
the guys in sg
he has 0 to do with any of them.
the guys in buck cherry
the guys in 11
wtf
he cant keep friends

he bailed on sg
they are like the only band that dissapeared, nothing from them
no dvd
no live stuff
i know they are not together, but still, they were good enough to keep the spirt alive

what he did with audioslave was bullshit, regardless if you like them or not
he burned that sound,
they developed a big fan base and than spoof vanish with nothing for the fans
not even a last tour for an album
he waited to bail after the hype so the album would sell
fuck that move
that was a dickhead move
i never witnessed anything like that ever
heres are album, buy it its like zeppelin meets earth wind and fire
play it on the radio
3 months later split
that purely was done to fuck the fans

i was a big fan but i cant even listen to them anymore especially the last album, and i loved it

i saw him with audioslave in november and he looked so happy, i was loving the fact that they were togther and they were playing new material
they broke up in feb
fuck him

his solo album blew
the shows blew.

2 bands completeley vanished and 1 not even listenable, the other not salvagable
bands break up, and still get played and respected not his
drugs

nowayimfaithfull

reversedarwinism wrote:

Well, vocal talent he's above Vedder. Thats obvious to anyone. He'd be in the same league as Plant and Mercury and very few others. Use of vocals in the song, he's in the top of that category too; along with Vedder. The way the two of them use the melody is crazy and good. My favorites of my favorite style of singer.

I laugh at the people here who are so intimidated by Cornell's popularity. Only a few of many Cornell fans would post here, just as only 1% of PJ fans that I've met post here. In fact, I've met hundreds of PJ fans none of which have ever posted or even know about this place. Why is his popularity so bothersome? It doen't take away from PJ.

thats hard to say

chris changes like a fucking chameleon

ive seen it all
his voice on the second audioslave tour was great and right there
solo album and tour he sucked
nowhere in vedders league
soundgarden every other year chris had stagefright, thats why they broke up

vedder has done thousand shows
how can you make a blind statement like chris is above ed

is chris capable of sounding better than ed
sure
does he do the things he needs to do to keep up
never

1 thing I asked brendan obrien in vegas hanging at a bar in the mgm
is why ed didnt do the fancy studio stuff chris did

His answer, was great.
Becasue Ed wants to be able to sound the same way live and sound just as adequate and tru to form
he went onto say if you listen to the songs where Ed does mix his voice up usually the band plays them completeley differant or not at all.
mainly jeremey, or do the evelution

this is a big reason chris sounds like shit live and great on record.

To compare chris to neil young is crazy
neil is as plain jane as you get, chris is almost as studio as sebastion bach

nowayimfaithfull

Joe2TheRevenge wrote:

i agree

Chris Cornell blows Eddie away a million times over vocally.

chris is great at times

but this is offbase

no such thing chris voice gives me a headache, it sounds like a bad demo

parachutes sounds pretty good to me with vedder.

live chris could be talk in key
its hard to judge studio albums\

now sure temple of the dog he blows ed away, but he played say hello to heaven on the last tour and he sounded like someone from the audience

nowayimfaithfull

Neither guy is a million anything
they are both capable of being great

My opinion on chris and new work

he fucking chris cornell, sure he can do great stuff, this album could be a lets dance
he could outdo vedder

the problem is chris will leave before it starts
hell do a cheesey tour with differant musicians than on the album, and than hide from it and than in turn it cheapens the history.

For the supposedly greates singer in the world, and a super talent with tons of expierence, who creates art. And a great songwriter who makes his fans hang on a cross for him.
He holds himself to 0 accountability.
And gets away with it for 1 reason.

Soundgarden, who he doesnt even give the same respect that all his fans on here do.
And there were 3 guys in that band that helped create that sound, and he snuffs them. And parades his reputation off them, that is bullshit.
Becasue without that music with matt on drums, chris would still be in seattle playing with the shemps.

searchlightsoul

nowayimfaithfull wrote:

Neither guy is a million anything
they are both capable of being great

My opinion on chris and new work

he fucking chris cornell, sure he can do great stuff, this album could be a lets dance
he could outdo vedder

the problem is chris will leave before it starts
hell do a cheesey tour with differant musicians than on the album, and than hide from it and than in turn it cheapens the history.

For the supposedly greates singer in the world, and a super talent with tons of expierence, who creates art. And a great songwriter who makes his fans hang on a cross for him.
He holds himself to 0 accountability.
And gets away with it for 1 reason.

Soundgarden, who he doesnt even give the same respect that all his fans on here do.
And there were 3 guys in that band that helped create that sound, and he snuffs them. And parades his reputation off them, that is bullshit.
Becasue without that music with matt on drums, chris would still be in seattle playing with the shemps.

How did he parade his reputation from Soundgarden? That band was the least commercial of the big 4 and all the respect he has recieved has come purely from the quality of the material he was responsible (in latrge part) for producing.Of course he is going to get the attention because he is been the lead singer/songwriter in three multiplatinum selling bands. He has always been the common denominator.

dcfaithful

i think Chris Cornell is a damn good rock singer, and I truly do appreciate everything he has done, and his first solo album is awesome but i believe I read it perfectly put...

he has become a douche

ii44

nowayimfaithfull wrote:

lebeterman10, I usually agree with you, not hear though,
Chris is very talanted.
he has done some wierd shit unexplainable shit that has caused me to back off
he prob has a drug problem
his last album had alot of cheese on it, and the tour was lame
he never stays consistant with his associates either

ever

producers
bandmates
women
friends
he was all over every seattle bands jocks, and never even mentions them
he was tight with brendan obrien
rick rubin, steve lilywhite
the guys in audioslave
the guys in sg
he has 0 to do with any of them.
the guys in buck cherry
the guys in 11
wtf
he cant keep friends

he bailed on sg
they are like the only band that dissapeared, nothing from them
no dvd
no live stuff
i know they are not together, but still, they were good enough to keep the spirt alive

what he did with audioslave was bullshit, regardless if you like them or not
he burned that sound,
they developed a big fan base and than spoof vanish with nothing for the fans
not even a last tour for an album
he waited to bail after the hype so the album would sell
fuck that move
that was a dickhead move
i never witnessed anything like that ever
heres are album, buy it its like zeppelin meets earth wind and fire
play it on the radio
3 months later split
that purely was done to fuck the fans

i was a big fan but i cant even listen to them anymore especially the last album, and i loved it

i saw him with audioslave in november and he looked so happy, i was loving the fact that they were togther and they were playing new material
they broke up in feb
fuck him

his solo album blew
the shows blew.

2 bands completeley vanished and 1 not even listenable, the other not salvagable
bands break up, and still get played and respected not his
drugs

Like you know him personally? I call bullshit.

ii44

nowayimfaithfull wrote:

thats hard to say

chris changes like a fucking chameleon

ive seen it all
his voice on the second audioslave tour was great and right there
solo album and tour he sucked
nowhere in vedders league
soundgarden every other year chris had stagefright, thats why they broke up

vedder has done thousand shows
how can you make a blind statement like chris is above ed

is chris capable of sounding better than ed
sure
does he do the things he needs to do to keep up
never

1 thing I asked brendan obrien in vegas hanging at a bar in the mgm
is why ed didnt do the fancy studio stuff chris did

His answer, was great.
Becasue Ed wants to be able to sound the same way live and sound just as adequate and tru to form
he went onto say if you listen to the songs where Ed does mix his voice up usually the band plays them completeley differant or not at all.
mainly jeremey, or do the evelution

this is a big reason chris sounds like shit live and great on record.

To compare chris to neil young is crazy
neil is as plain jane as you get, chris is almost as studio as sebastion bach

Chris sounds great live.

gtrplyr

nowayimfaithfull wrote:

lebeterman10, I usually agree with you, not hear though,
Chris is very talanted.
he has done some wierd shit unexplainable shit that has caused me to back off
he prob has a drug problem
his last album had alot of cheese on it, and the tour was lame
he never stays consistant with his associates either

ever

producers
bandmates
women
friends
he was all over every seattle bands jocks, and never even mentions them
he was tight with brendan obrien
rick rubin, steve lilywhite
the guys in audioslave
the guys in sg
he has 0 to do with any of them.
the guys in buck cherry
the guys in 11
wtf
he cant keep friends

he bailed on sg
they are like the only band that dissapeared, nothing from them
no dvd
no live stuff
i know they are not together, but still, they were good enough to keep the spirt alive

what he did with audioslave was bullshit, regardless if you like them or not
he burned that sound,
they developed a big fan base and than spoof vanish with nothing for the fans
not even a last tour for an album
he waited to bail after the hype so the album would sell
fuck that move
that was a dickhead move
i never witnessed anything like that ever
heres are album, buy it its like zeppelin meets earth wind and fire
play it on the radio
3 months later split
that purely was done to fuck the fans

i was a big fan but i cant even listen to them anymore especially the last album, and i loved it

i saw him with audioslave in november and he looked so happy, i was loving the fact that they were togther and they were playing new material
they broke up in feb
fuck him

his solo album blew
the shows blew.

2 bands completeley vanished and 1 not even listenable, the other not salvagable
bands break up, and still get played and respected not his
drugs

You basically have no idea what you are talking about. You don't know who Chris "associates" with.

Audioslave broke up because Rage got back together...no matter how they tried to spin it, thats what happened.

You're talking out of your ass about the rest of it.

Nevermind

nowayimfaithfull wrote:

lebeterman10, I usually agree with you, not hear though,
Chris is very talanted.
he has done some wierd shit unexplainable shit that has caused me to back off
he prob has a drug problem
his last album had alot of cheese on it, and the tour was lame
he never stays consistant with his associates either

ever

producers
bandmates
women
friends
he was all over every seattle bands jocks, and never even mentions them
he was tight with brendan obrien
rick rubin, steve lilywhite
the guys in audioslave
the guys in sg
he has 0 to do with any of them.
the guys in buck cherry
the guys in 11
wtf
he cant keep friends

he bailed on sg
they are like the only band that dissapeared, nothing from them
no dvd
no live stuff
i know they are not together, but still, they were good enough to keep the spirt alive

what he did with audioslave was bullshit, regardless if you like them or not
he burned that sound,
they developed a big fan base and than spoof vanish with nothing for the fans
not even a last tour for an album
he waited to bail after the hype so the album would sell
fuck that move
that was a dickhead move
i never witnessed anything like that ever
heres are album, buy it its like zeppelin meets earth wind and fire
play it on the radio
3 months later split
that purely was done to fuck the fans

i was a big fan but i cant even listen to them anymore especially the last album, and i loved it

i saw him with audioslave in november and he looked so happy, i was loving the fact that they were togther and they were playing new material
they broke up in feb
fuck him

his solo album blew
the shows blew.

2 bands completeley vanished and 1 not even listenable, the other not salvagable
bands break up, and still get played and respected not his
drugs

He was an alcoholic not a drug addict...