Queens of the Stone Age

PJ_Soul

I'm just glad they are etching side 4. That is the one thing that is missing from ...Like Clockwork. I know some might argue that they spread it out so much on that album because it was a 45RPM LP and it was best for the sound, but I'm not buying it, lol. It could have sounded just as good on 3 sides.

benjs

PJ_Soul said:

I'm just glad they are etching side 4. That is the one thing that is missing from ...Like Clockwork. I know some might argue that they spread it out so much on that album because it was a 45RPM LP and it was best for the sound, but I'm not buying it, lol. It could have sounded just as good on 3 sides.

Not sure if you've done an A/B comparison between 45 and 33-1/3 RPM, but I've done it with mint copies of Tea for the Tillerman, and the difference I heard was astonishing. After that, there are only a handful of bands whose vinyl I'll get if pressed on 33-1/3. 

PJ_Soul

benjs said:

PJ_Soul said:

I'm just glad they are etching side 4. That is the one thing that is missing from ...Like Clockwork. I know some might argue that they spread it out so much on that album because it was a 45RPM LP and it was best for the sound, but I'm not buying it, lol. It could have sounded just as good on 3 sides.

Not sure if you've done an A/B comparison between 45 and 33-1/3 RPM, but I've done it with mint copies of Tea for the Tillerman, and the difference I heard was astonishing. After that, there are only a handful of bands whose vinyl I'll get if pressed on 33-1/3. 

I didn't mean that 45 RPM can't produce better sound. I'm arguing that they could have still done it using 3 sides. It didn't need to be as spread out as it is, all other things being equal. There is a LOT of dead space on that record.

benjs

PJ_Soul said:

benjs said:

PJ_Soul said:

I'm just glad they are etching side 4. That is the one thing that is missing from ...Like Clockwork. I know some might argue that they spread it out so much on that album because it was a 45RPM LP and it was best for the sound, but I'm not buying it, lol. It could have sounded just as good on 3 sides.

Not sure if you've done an A/B comparison between 45 and 33-1/3 RPM, but I've done it with mint copies of Tea for the Tillerman, and the difference I heard was astonishing. After that, there are only a handful of bands whose vinyl I'll get if pressed on 33-1/3. 

I didn't mean that 45 RPM can't produce better sound. I'm arguing that they could have still done it using 3 sides. It didn't need to be as spread out as it is, all other things being equal. There is a LOT of dead space on that record.

Gotcha! I'm guessing that was an effort to reduce what's known as inner groove distortion.

First is the fact that you have less vinyl per second towards the centre of a record, which means much data gets 'compressed', and some of the data gets 'glossed over' by your stylus, leading to a loss in audio definition. In addition to that, records are pressed on a parallel basis and read on an increasingly angled one as your tonearm pivots. This theoretically contributes to a loss in quality towards the centre of a record compared to the outside, though I have no idea the magnitude of that degradation. I know my dad had a fancy Audio Technica which had a motor in the tonearm which slid from the outside towards the centre (rather than just pivoting), but I'd be hard-pressed to hear a difference.

In any case, if the tracks are more-or-less evenly distributed, with a 48 minute runtime (based on Apple Music), you're looking at about 15 minutes per side, which should be more to your liking!  

FrankY59

About 95% of the live shows I listen to from youtube are post ...Like Clockwork.

It seemed they really emphasized that album and played it for most part in its entirety.  They had a few other random songs from other albums scattered in the setlist.  Do you think they will follow the same formula this tour in playing Villains in its near entirety scatter few other songs from their catalogue?  If so, what songs from ...Like Clockwork would make the cut?  The album is brilliant front to end.  

eeriepadave

This was my first headlining qotsa show (first show was at ozzfest in '00).  This was very cool with Dave grohl on drums and mark lannegan came out for a few songs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzMUZ0rt-5U

Release EV

Tonight in Melbourne. Pumped

iwasatpj20

Release EV said:

Tonight in Melbourne. Pumped

Have fun Adam

Natashapearljamfan

Release EV said:

Tonight in Melbourne. Pumped

Have an awesome night. 

Release EV

 anyone want merch? Gene i have you covered. Nearly at merch booth

FrankY59

"I Appear Missing" only played once thus far in Oceania!  Not looking good when they come to Detroit :(  Then again I am certain the set list will completely change after August 25th.

2-feign-reluctance

benjs said:

PJ_Soul said:

benjs said:

PJ_Soul said:

I'm just glad they are etching side 4. That is the one thing that is missing from ...Like Clockwork. I know some might argue that they spread it out so much on that album because it was a 45RPM LP and it was best for the sound, but I'm not buying it, lol. It could have sounded just as good on 3 sides.

Not sure if you've done an A/B comparison between 45 and 33-1/3 RPM, but I've done it with mint copies of Tea for the Tillerman, and the difference I heard was astonishing. After that, there are only a handful of bands whose vinyl I'll get if pressed on 33-1/3. 

I didn't mean that 45 RPM can't produce better sound. I'm arguing that they could have still done it using 3 sides. It didn't need to be as spread out as it is, all other things being equal. There is a LOT of dead space on that record.

Gotcha! I'm guessing that was an effort to reduce what's known as inner groove distortion.

First is the fact that you have less vinyl per second towards the centre of a record, which means much data gets 'compressed', and some of the data gets 'glossed over' by your stylus, leading to a loss in audio definition. In addition to that, records are pressed on a parallel basis and read on an increasingly angled one as your tonearm pivots. This theoretically contributes to a loss in quality towards the centre of a record compared to the outside, though I have no idea the magnitude of that degradation. I know my dad had a fancy Audio Technica which had a motor in the tonearm which slid from the outside towards the centre (rather than just pivoting), but I'd be hard-pressed to hear a difference.

In any case, if the tracks are more-or-less evenly distributed, with a 48 minute runtime (based on Apple Music), you're looking at about 15 minutes per side, which should be more to your liking!  

Very well explained. 

tbergs

Hope it's nothing major.

https://www.google.com/amp/pitchfork.com/news/queens-of-the-stone-age-cancel-outside-lands-set-due-to-injury/amp/#ampshare=http://pitchfork.com/news/queens-of-the-stone-age-cancel-outside-lands-set-due-to-injury/

tbergs

This has me salivating to hear the new album. So exited for this one.

http://antiquiet.com/reviews/2017/08/review-queens-of-the-stone-age-villains-is-a-haunted-house-dance-party/

bootlegger10

Hopefully not too much of a dance party.  Entering Taylor Swift realm in her country to pop shift territory.

FrankY59

tbergs said:

This has me salivating to hear the new album. So exited for this one.

http://antiquiet.com/reviews/2017/08/review-queens-of-the-stone-age-villains-is-a-haunted-house-dance-party/

That article made no sense.  Can someone translate it to English?

benjs

Someone better call Donald Trump - we have a LEAK!!!! Sad.

Dr.Teeth and the Electric Mayh

benjs said:

Someone better call Donald Trump - we have a LEAK!!!! Sad.

It's very good. Very funky. 

2-feign-reluctance

Dr.Teeth and the Electric Mayh said:

benjs said:

Someone better call Donald Trump - we have a LEAK!!!! Sad.

It's very good. Very funky. 

Looking forward to it!

eeriepadave

benjs said:

Someone better call Donald Trump - we have a LEAK!!!! Sad.

sweet, thanks for the heads up!