Are Metallica done?
Cropduster84
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Just noticing some of the arguments in the RHCP thread and thought alot of them could easily apply to Metallica....
The Black album was released in 1991, they havent done much of any worth since....
To think Pearl Jam have had their whole career in that time too.....
The Black album was released in 1991, they havent done much of any worth since....
To think Pearl Jam have had their whole career in that time too.....
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They have been done for a long time now.
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Ain't gonna be any middle anymore.
I do find it annoying when bands take 5 years to put out a band. hopefully pj will come out with a new one sooner then it took for "pearl jam" to come out.
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I second that....
I agree, anything after 'Load' is shite and that was tenuous....
... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
And if they bother to talk about PJ on Metallica's message board, they probably say that they haven't done anything since Vitalogy
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Am I the only one that prefers Load and ReLoad over the Black album? I don't really like the Black album at all.
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I doubt that.
Besides, we all know PJ have never written anything better than the lyrical genius that is "Frantic tick tock..." :rolleyes:
I rest my case.
... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
St. Anger was also suppose to be the "comeback" album. I remember they were promoting it, saying they went back to some of the traits they had on albums like ...And Justice for All. True, some of the songs were in the 7 minute range, but not one song had a solo with Kirk. How are you going to have an entire Metallica album without Kirk shredding on at least one song? After listening to St. Anger and watching the documentary Some Kind of Monster, my image of them have been tainted forever. '80s Metallica = amazing. '90s and so on Metallica = garbage. If you want some real metal, listen to Slayer.
Yeah that's probably true. People dismiss Metallicas later work just as people dismiss Pearl Jams later work. Bit unfair really.
They dismiss their later work because everything after ....and justic for all was CRAP! How do you go from albums like: Kill 'em all, Ride the lightning, Master of Puppets, and justice for all to- Black album (decent), load (everything minus hero of the day sucked) re-load (crap) St. Anger (big steaming pile of crap.
Metalica's lyrics have always sucked, this is not confined to St. Anger.
Justice kinda sucks though, yeah there are a couple of good songs, but it's just a rehash of everything the did on the previous two records.
Cameras are allowed into therapy, to see how Lars and Kurt interact without James cause he is away at rehab, while trying to write an album, and when James returns he has a set schedule of 4 hours rehearsal time a day. Period....no exceptions.
Plus James struggles psychologically with the "role" he is supposed to "play" as the lead singer of Metallica and after playing that role for so long, he is finally owrn himself out and he cant play the role anymore.......it was very eye-opening at the "struggle within" the group. The therapist even made Lars go back and talk to Dave Mustaine to help understand the "bigger picture" of what they were, and how they have come to be what they are today. It was made really well and i highly recommend watching it. Made me feel like they arent going to be around much longer unless they turn into Aerosmith and continue to tour based only on past success. And sure, some people say PJ does the same thing, (tour based on past success), and I give Metallica credit, they've stuck it out. However, any band that is in therapy, might as well hang it up.
I have seen them 3 times and each time it was terrific; granted the last time I saw them was 98, and James' voice just isnt the same. He's lost part of his growl....but I imagine it's still pretty intense.
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Justice is amazing. Too bad they havent released anything good since it came out. Black Album= overrated.
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I don't hate St. Anger, but they have to realize that [long songs] doesn't equal [good(!)] A big problem with their post black-album records is that the albums are too long and many of the songs meander pointlessly and need to be trimmed down.
True its less Metal then before but its more classic rock. Its the album that gave them cred with people who didn't really care for Metal.
To me its like when a punk group gets to "good" they become less punk and more rock, ie Green Day, The Clash. I think this applies to Metal as well. This is what happened with Metallica with the Black Album. If Load and Reload had been combined to one album with the best 12 songs chosen it would have been a kick ass record as well.
No excuse for St. Anger tho.
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I'll give them some respect though. I liked them in high school when I was full of teen agnst and hated the world and acne, but that only lasts a few years.. What are these guys 50 now?
I can't help but think about living in my parents basement when I hear a Metallica song.
Even their self-titled album had a big yellow sticker on the cover advertising "over 62 minutes of music!" as if an hour long album was twice as goof as a 30 minute album.
I personally dislike Master Of Puppets and And Justice For All, and of course Reload and St. Anger. The only good albums they've put out are Ride The Lightning, Metallica and a few songs on Load. And Garage Days Re-revisited was decent too, if that counts.
I can't say I'm too excited about the new one, but I'll at least check it out. And by check it out, I mean I'll download it for free on Demonoid.
well they used to be a little better than StAnger....
Metallica have gone seriously downhill.
... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
St Anger I think gets bashed a little too much, by most bands standards this album is good, by Metallica's standards it's fairly lackluster, Metallica raised the bar so high in the 80's it was always going to get to the point where it was hard to reach again.
Master of Puppets
Ride the Lightening
Kill Em All
And Justice for All
Black
Load
ReLoad
St Anger
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