Are Metallica done?

Cropduster84
Cropduster84 Posts: 1,283
edited April 2008 in Other Music
Just noticing some of the arguments in the RHCP thread and thought alot of them could easily apply to Metallica....

The Black album was released in 1991, they havent done much of any worth since....

To think Pearl Jam have had their whole career in that time too.....
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  • surfanddestroy
    surfanddestroy Posts: 2,786
    Cropduster84 wrote:
    Just noticing some of the arguments in the RHCP thread and thought alot of them could easily apply to Metallica....

    The Black album was released in 1991, they havent done much of any worth since....

    To think Pearl Jam have had their whole career in that time too.....

    They have been done for a long time now.
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  • intodeep
    intodeep Posts: 7,249
    They are working with Rick Ruben on the album coming out this year and it is supposed to be the come back album.

    I do find it annoying when bands take 5 years to put out a band. hopefully pj will come out with a new one sooner then it took for "pearl jam" to come out.
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  • Cropduster84
    Cropduster84 Posts: 1,283
    intodeep wrote:
    hopefully pj will come out with a new one sooner then it took for "pearl jam" to come out.


    I second that....
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  • Sian-of-the-dead
    Sian-of-the-dead Posts: 8,963
    surfanddestroy wrote:
    They have been done for a long time now.

    I agree, anything after 'Load' is shite and that was tenuous....
    Been to this many PJ shows: Reading 2006 London 2007 Manchester & London 2009 Dublin, Belfast, London, Nijmegen & Berlin 2010 Manchester 1 & Manchester 2 2012...

    ... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    Cropduster84 wrote:

    The Black album was released in 1991, they havent done much of any worth since....


    And if they bother to talk about PJ on Metallica's message board, they probably say that they haven't done anything since Vitalogy
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  • Flagg
    Flagg Posts: 5,856
    No they are not done. I expect a big comeback with their new album now that they got St. Anger out of their system. I think they realize that record sucked.

    Am I the only one that prefers Load and ReLoad over the Black album? I don't really like the Black album at all.
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  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    Dont you mean 'Lica? cuz the Metal left a long time ago.
  • Super Vedder
    Super Vedder Posts: 1,531
    MrSmith wrote:
    Dont you mean 'Lica? cuz the Metal left a long time ago.

    genius, well done sir! :D
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  • Brain Of E
    Brain Of E Posts: 499
    I'm giving thme one last chance to put out a semi-listenable record. If Rick can't save them, they should give it up and do solo albums or start other bands with other people.
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  • Sian-of-the-dead
    Sian-of-the-dead Posts: 8,963
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    And if they bother to talk about PJ on Metallica's message board, they probably say that they haven't done anything since Vitalogy

    I doubt that.

    Besides, we all know PJ have never written anything better than the lyrical genius that is "Frantic tick tock..." :rolleyes:

    I rest my case.
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  • Jack_C_Gregory
    Jack_C_Gregory Posts: 540
    intodeep wrote:
    They are working with Rick Ruben on the album coming out this year and it is supposed to be the come back album.


    St. Anger was also suppose to be the "comeback" album. I remember they were promoting it, saying they went back to some of the traits they had on albums like ...And Justice for All. True, some of the songs were in the 7 minute range, but not one song had a solo with Kirk. How are you going to have an entire Metallica album without Kirk shredding on at least one song? After listening to St. Anger and watching the documentary Some Kind of Monster, my image of them have been tainted forever. '80s Metallica = amazing. '90s and so on Metallica = garbage. If you want some real metal, listen to Slayer.
  • muppet
    muppet Posts: 980
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    And if they bother to talk about PJ on Metallica's message board, they probably say that they haven't done anything since Vitalogy

    Yeah that's probably true. People dismiss Metallicas later work just as people dismiss Pearl Jams later work. Bit unfair really.
  • Gremmie95
    Gremmie95 Posts: 749
    muppet wrote:
    Yeah that's probably true. People dismiss Metallicas later work just as people dismiss Pearl Jams later work. Bit unfair really.

    They dismiss their later work because everything after ....and justic for all was CRAP! How do you go from albums like: Kill 'em all, Ride the lightning, Master of Puppets, and justice for all to- Black album (decent), load (everything minus hero of the day sucked) re-load (crap) St. Anger (big steaming pile of crap.
  • ii44
    ii44 Posts: 430
    Sian-of-the-dead wrote:
    I doubt that.

    Besides, we all know PJ have never written anything better than the lyrical genius that is "Frantic tick tock..." :rolleyes:

    I rest my case.

    Metalica's lyrics have always sucked, this is not confined to St. Anger.
  • ii44
    ii44 Posts: 430
    Gremmie95 wrote:
    They dismiss their later work because everything after ....and justic for all was CRAP! How do you go from albums like: Kill 'em all, Ride the lightning, Master of Puppets, and justice for all to- Black album (decent), load (everything minus hero of the day sucked) re-load (crap) St. Anger (big steaming pile of crap.

    Justice kinda sucks though, yeah there are a couple of good songs, but it's just a rehash of everything the did on the previous two records.
  • upina2001
    upina2001 Indiana Posts: 764
    has anyone happened to catch the Metallica Documentary on VH1-Classic?
    Cameras are allowed into therapy, to see how Lars and Kurt interact without James cause he is away at rehab, while trying to write an album, and when James returns he has a set schedule of 4 hours rehearsal time a day. Period....no exceptions.
    Plus James struggles psychologically with the "role" he is supposed to "play" as the lead singer of Metallica and after playing that role for so long, he is finally owrn himself out and he cant play the role anymore.......it was very eye-opening at the "struggle within" the group. The therapist even made Lars go back and talk to Dave Mustaine to help understand the "bigger picture" of what they were, and how they have come to be what they are today. It was made really well and i highly recommend watching it. Made me feel like they arent going to be around much longer unless they turn into Aerosmith and continue to tour based only on past success. And sure, some people say PJ does the same thing, (tour based on past success), and I give Metallica credit, they've stuck it out. However, any band that is in therapy, might as well hang it up.

    I have seen them 3 times and each time it was terrific; granted the last time I saw them was 98, and James' voice just isnt the same. He's lost part of his growl....but I imagine it's still pretty intense.

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  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 27,007
    ii44 wrote:
    Justice kinda sucks though, yeah there are a couple of good songs, but it's just a rehash of everything the did on the previous two records.

    Justice is amazing. Too bad they havent released anything good since it came out. Black Album= overrated.
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  • tybird
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    upina2001 wrote:
    The therapist even made Lars go back and talk to Dave Mustaine to help understand the "bigger picture" of what they were, and how they have come to be what they are today. It was made really well and i highly recommend watching it.
    That was great viewing....seeing Mustaine open up, take the blame for his mistakes while showing Lars that if they were true friends.....they would have tried to be more helpful back in the day.
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  • Odin
    Odin Posts: 599
    As I mentioned a few months ago, Metallica's next album is a make-or-break album. If they come out with another "St. Anger" or even another "Reload," their careers are over. However, if they return to form on their next album, everyone will be back on the Metallica bandwagon in no time. And let's keep in mind that they are one of the few bands from that era that could still sell out arenas all across the country.
  • lalalalaaaaaaaa
    lalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    They might be done, but you never know with a band like this. When it really comes down to it, they've only made 2 really bad albums (the ones after Load). The rest were excellent, so it's hard for me to count them out totally yet. If this next one stinks, maybe I'll say yes.

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