the best band since led zeppelin

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  • deadnothingbetter
    deadnothingbetter Posts: 2,202
    1STmammal2wearPants wrote:
    a big qualification there though is influence/record sales, neither of which the mars volta have.
    influence.... they already have it.
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  • bharQ
    bharQ Posts: 1,201
    deadnothingbetter wrote:
    i don't know about you guys but i'm going to be honest here. the mars volta is the best fucking band to come along since led zeppelin. nirvana wouldn't hold a light to these guys. these guys are a huge fucking deal... maybe part of it cause my cousin went to high school with cedric... and he still keeps in touch with him through emails. and plan to work together on some art projects but i just got a copy of the amputechture and frances the mute. song after song nothing but fucking rock ecstacy. viva la rock dudes... it's certainly still alive. listen to Tetragrammation off their amputechture... brings back the spirit of Yes from "Heart of the Sunrise" with a culmination of psychedellic stuff(but probably not as great as Heart of the Sunrise... that's song is the shit.. has anyone seen buffalo 66?) anyways... Tetragrammation. great song. great band.

    I would say they are the best band since the bands of the early 90s.... I loved at the drive-in when they came out and felt they were really something new and amazing at a time when mainstream music was at it's worst... they of course disbanded, in my mind, way to early while on tour with Rage... who of course also broke up around that time :(... but after seeing Mars Volta live and following their albums I really think they are one of the greatest rock bands of our time. oh yeah and.. Fuck pitchfork.
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  • 1STmammal2wearPants
    1STmammal2wearPants Worcester, MA Posts: 2,983
    deadnothingbetter wrote:
    influence.... they already have it.

    not in mass amounts. they simply don't. not a knock against the band, but they simply don't have the influence of say, an r.e.m. or a van halen or a led zeppelin. no argument there really.
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  • deadnothingbetter
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    bharQ wrote:
    I would say they are the best band since the bands of the early 90s.... I loved at the drive-in when they came out and felt they were really something new and amazing at a time when mainstream music was at it's worst... they of course disbanded, in my mind, way to early while on tour with Rage... who of course also broke up around that time :(... but after seeing Mars Volta live and following their albums I really think they are one of the greatest rock bands of our time. oh yeah and.. Fuck pitchfork.
    who's pitchfork?
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  • bharQ
    bharQ Posts: 1,201
    1STmammal2wearPants wrote:
    not in mass amounts. they simply don't. not a knock against the band, but they simply don't have the influence of say, an r.e.m. or a van halen or a led zeppelin. no argument there really.

    well time will tell on that one... they are certainly ahead of their time....they always have been going back all the way to at the drive-in
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  • bharQ
    bharQ Posts: 1,201
    clairenordon wrote:
    i havent listened to amp yet.

    i can see minor similarities to led zep, but i dont see the comparison working. Mars Volta is a lot more 'out there' than lz were.

    thats the beauty... in 1968 if you seen led zeppelin in a club in london they were very very out there... just like how mars volta is out there for us now!...
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  • bharQ
    bharQ Posts: 1,201
    deadnothingbetter wrote:
    nope, but soon enough they will. their music is much better than all those bands... especially stone temple pilots.

    the deleo brothers in stone temple pilots are some of the best song writers and i'd even say most underated songwriters (especially in the early days)... in the WORLD...
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  • bharQ
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    deadnothingbetter wrote:
    who's pitchfork?

    A scenester webmag that bases everything on how indie and different you are.... they hate bands like kings of leon and mars volta but garbage like deerhoof and claps your hands and say yeah get 9 / 10 ratings from them

    Consider it a blessing you've never heard of them ;)
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  • deadnothingbetter
    deadnothingbetter Posts: 2,202
    1STmammal2wearPants wrote:
    not in mass amounts. they simply don't. not a knock against the band, but they simply don't have the influence of say, an r.e.m. or a van halen or a led zeppelin. no argument there really.
    you're not understanding the mindset dude.... these guys are influencing the kids of today... the 13-24 yo's. and they've got fans from 25-30. but it's the kids are getting influenced by them. in a few years a shitload of bands will try to sound like them. you're missing the whole concept. just like nirvana... they influenced the kids... a generation. oh and i understand led zep... but rem... those guys sucked when they started out. the rem of the 80's didn't become a recognizable band until the rem of the 90's... they were like a completely different band. but about van halen... i guess i don't know too much about them. i never liked them.
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  • deadnothingbetter
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    bharQ wrote:
    A scenester webmag that bases everything on how indie and different you are.... they hate bands like kings of leon and mars volta but garbage like deerhoof and claps your hands and say yeah get 9 / 10 ratings from them

    Consider it a blessing you've never heard of them ;)
    far out dude... i love kings of leon.
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  • bharQ
    bharQ Posts: 1,201
    deadnothingbetter wrote:
    far out dude... i love kings of leon.

    their new album is great.... can't wait for lolla!
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  • bharQ
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    It's pretty nice to see fans of Mars Volta around here... usually these threads get hijacked by all the haters... nice to see PJ fans that like mars volta as well
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  • deadnothingbetter
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    bharQ wrote:
    It's pretty nice to see fans of Mars Volta around here... usually these threads get hijacked by all the haters... nice to see PJ fans that like mars volta as well
    likewise yo...
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  • 1STmammal2wearPants
    1STmammal2wearPants Worcester, MA Posts: 2,983
    deadnothingbetter wrote:
    you're not understanding the mindset dude.... these guys are influencing the kids of today... the 13-24 yo's. and they've got fans from 25-30. but it's the kids are getting influenced by them. in a few years a shitload of bands will try to sound like them. you're missing the whole concept. just like nirvana... they influenced the kids... a generation. oh and i understand led zep... but rem... those guys sucked when they started out. the rem of the 80's didn't become a recognizable band until the rem of the 90's... they were like a completely different band. but about van halen... i guess i don't know too much about them. i never liked them.

    I just think it's a bold statement to say that the mars volta are the influence of a generation in the sense that nirvana was in the 90s. the mars volta doesn't have half of the influence on the "kids" like you say they do. I do like the band, but I could reel off a few bands off the top of my head that have a bigger influence. everywhere you turned in the 1990s it was pearl jam nirvana etc. you sure as hell don't see that with the mars volta. does that mean they suck? no. musically, they're extremely talented (i hate the lead singer's voice, but that's a different story). I just find them to be an underground favorite right now. there's a whole hell of a lot more bands right now that are just as big if not bigger- modest mouse, the shins, etc. To like The Mars Volta is one thing, but to proclaim them the second coming of god, the voice of a generation, and the best thing since zep with soon to be the influence of zep- that's merely opinion and certainly not a fact.
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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,118
    Scratchin a Letter wrote:
    Zepp were great, but overrated to fuck.


    just plain wrong you are my friend
  • deadnothingbetter
    deadnothingbetter Posts: 2,202
    1STmammal2wearPants wrote:
    I just think it's a bold statement to say that the mars volta are the influence of a generation in the sense that nirvana was in the 90s. the mars volta doesn't have half of the influence on the "kids" like you say they do. I do like the band, but I could reel off a few bands off the top of my head that have a bigger influence. everywhere you turned in the 1990s it was pearl jam nirvana etc. you sure as hell don't see that with the mars volta. does that mean they suck? no. musically, they're extremely talented (i hate the lead singer's voice, but that's a different story). I just find them to be an underground favorite right now. there's a whole hell of a lot more bands right now that are just as big if not bigger- modest mouse, the shins, etc. To like The Mars Volta is one thing, but to proclaim them the second coming of god, the voice of a generation, and the best thing since zep with soon to be the influence of zep- that's merely opinion and certainly not a fact.
    no... it's a prediction. but all the kids here in austin (which happens to be the live music of the world) are following the steps of the volta... the shins and modest mouse... although good to me, are not liked by the kids playing music today. one thing is a fact, you have no idea how much influence this band has on a lot of kids already. in my humble opinion, i don't even think pearl jam would've made it if it weren't for nirvana.

    oh and by the way... the mars volta are already "gods" (although I don't like to use that term becuase of my personal beliefs) in mexico.
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  • intodeep
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    I actually think their influence may be better compared to pink floyd.

    Just my opinion.
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  • audiodave
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    deadnothingbetter wrote:
    but rem... those guys sucked when they started out. the rem of the 80's didn't become a recognizable band until the rem of the 90's... they were like a completely different band.
    Don't underestimate the influence of REM. I believe in their recent induction into the rock and roll hall of fame, Eddie told how he listened to their first record, which was released in 1983, over and over for an entire summer. He was clearly influenced by the REM of the 80's, as were many, many other people.
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  • deadnothingbetter
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    audiodave wrote:
    Don't underestimate the influence of REM. I believe in their recent induction into the rock and roll hall of fame, Eddie told how he listened to their first record, which was released in 1983, over and over for an entire summer. He was clearly influenced by the REM of the 80's, as were many, many other people.
    hey, i'm sure their first album was a classic and all but i didn't like them then. i only liked them from their out of time album and so on. but yeah definitely rem is a great band... i'm not underestimating them. i was just meaning that if their music just kept sounding like the 80's stuff they wouldn't have made a difference. but all this about rem... it isn't anything near to the lines of the mars volta. it's like comparing led zep to the beatles. totally incomparible... these two were both just as great from one in other, in terms of how they did it... but their music is like comparing apples to oranges. but just as you say don't underestimate rem... well, likewise to you, don't underestimate the mars volta.
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  • hendrix78
    hendrix78 Posts: 507
    I don't think I can agree that the Mars Volta have or will have the same level of influence as Zeppelin. I think they will always be more underground that that. Their sound simply isn't mainstream enough to reach the number of people that Zep did.

    Maybe the Velvet Underground would be a better comparison. You know, the old saying that they didn't sell that many records, but everyone who bought their records started a band.

    For the record, I love the Mars Volta and think they may very well be the best band since Zeppelin.

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