the best band since led zeppelin

deadnothingbetter

i don't know about you guys but i'm going to be honest here. the mars volta is the best fucking band to come along since led zeppelin. nirvana wouldn't hold a light to these guys. these guys are a huge fucking deal... maybe part of it cause my cousin went to high school with cedric... and he still keeps in touch with him through emails. and plan to work together on some art projects but i just got a copy of the amputechture and frances the mute. song after song nothing but fucking rock ecstacy. viva la rock dudes... it's certainly still alive. listen to Tetragrammation off their amputechture... brings back the spirit of Yes from "Heart of the Sunrise" with a culmination of psychedellic stuff(but probably not as great as Heart of the Sunrise... that's song is the shit.. has anyone seen buffalo 66?) anyways... Tetragrammation. great song. great band.

glasshouse

i don't share your point of view.

i do agree that led zep is the ultimate hard rock band without a shadow of doubt though

just give me some communication breakdown and i'm happy

reeferchief

cant say I agree with you, At The Drive-In was a million times better than TMV for a start.:)

deadnothingbetter

glasshouse wrote:

i don't share your point of view.

i do agree that led zep is the ultimate hard rock band without a shadow of doubt though

just give me some communication breakdown and i'm happy

the only thing i'd say is that mars volta might not be to your taste which is understandable. but what these guys are doing is amazing. again... if it's not you're style that's a whole other ball game. but right now they are the best rock band. talent-wise, influentially, their image, their style... they have it all. all these guys are talented. percussions, vocalists, guitarists... and even bass... cause they got flea playing for them in their albums. zach de la rocha is their biggest fan and for a good reason. these guys are the biggest band in mexico right now.... or maybe second to cafe tacuba. but these guys are seriously good. not, again, unless of course it's not your style. arctic monkeys got nothing to these guys. pearl jam, they had their days. franz ferdinand, nope. modest mouse, flaming lips, radiohead... nothing. these guys are bringing the spirit of rawness back into rock. they are doing exactly what led zeppelin, van halen, black sabbath and all these guys intended to do for rock.

deadnothingbetter

reeferchief wrote:

cant say I agree with you, At The Drive-In was a million times better than TMV for a start.:)

no way dude. at the drive in was a minature mars volta. their influence isn't near to what mars volta is. just compare their music... literally. stop the cd and switch them over. you'll hear the difference. hell, that's why they got bigger now as mars volta... other than at the drive-in... they were nothing from another linkin park. all the pro's say the same thing about these guys. i know a crap load of musicians who are more into the modern rock stuff... all of them... i mean, all of them hold the mars volta as the band right now to the highest regards. not deftones, ratm, nin, tool or any of those bands hold the energy and high-powered tensions mars volta contains in their music. i might sound kinda absolute here but that's cause i'm listening to them right now.

reeferchief

deadnothingbetter wrote:

no way dude. at the drive in was a minature mars volta. their influence isn't near to what mars volta is. just compare their music... literally. stop the cd and switch them over. you'll hear the difference. hell, that's why they got bigger now as mars volta... other than at the drive-in... they were nothing from another linkin park. all the pro's say the same thing about these guys. i know a crap load of musicians who are more into the modern rock stuff... all of them... i mean, all of them hold the mars volta as the band right now to the highest regards. not deftones, ratm, nin, tool or any of those bands hold the energy and high-powered tensions mars volta contains in their music. i might sound kinda absolute here but that's cause i'm listening to them right now.

The fact that you just put ATD-I in the same league as Linkin Park really discredits your theory(maybe it was a hybrid one:p) anyhows I'm going to leave this thread alone now, everyones entitled to THEIR opinions.:)

deadnothingbetter

reeferchief wrote:

The fact that you just put ATD-I in the same league as Linkin Park really discredits your theory(maybe it was a hybrid one:p) anyhows I'm going to leave this thread alone now, everyones entitled to THEIR opinions.:)

jeez... i wouldn't have posted it if it was going to offend annyone dude... sorry. it was my opinion as you've said. . sorry bro... i'm just saying, they're the best band since led zeppelin... so many young cool hip kids are following after these guys. at the drive-in never came near... although they were kinda good. i didn't mean to say that their music was LIKE linkinpark... i just said they were another band at the hype of linkin park... but actually linkin park were far more popular than at the drive-in come to think of it. but that's all i meant to say. not meant to start an argument. or put at the drive-in "in the same league as linkin park". at the drive-in were just a flavor... of the week. that was it. that's why they broke up. mars volta are a much more serious band. maybe i should go post this in another thread... i bet i'll have thousands backing me up here.

wavescamecrashing

i havent listened to amp yet.

i prefer the debut to frances the mute, but that was a freakin great lp.



seen em live 3 or 4 times,. have to say, the last time was a disappointment, and i was on front row. a serious, shold we leave now? type of gig. which is a shame because the other times were great.

i can see minor similarities to led zep, but i dont see the comparison working. Mars Volta is a lot more 'out there' than lz were.

deadnothingbetter

clairenordon wrote:

i havent listened to amp yet.

i prefer the debut to frances the mute, but that was a freakin great lp.



seen em live 3 or 4 times,. have to say, the last time was a disappointment, and i was on front row. a serious, shold we leave now? type of gig. which is a shame because the other times were great.

i can see minor similarities to led zep, but i dont see the comparison working. Mars Volta is a lot more 'out there' than lz were.

yeah, you're right. they're not anything near led zeppellin in terms of styles of music... maybe in some. they are a lot more 'out there' too. their riffs remind me a lot of Yes... maybe we can compare them closer to them. even when they break down and totally mellow out... that's a lot like yes. you should also check out "deloused in the commamoratum"... their first, i think, after their debut lp album. i remember all the talk about "and you will know us by the trail of dead" and how their first two albums were like the greatest albums to come along in a long time... and how a lot of critics were giving them hype. well, i'm glad there were critics giving tmv a lot of hype in their deloused album. that's a badass album and way way way way way way better than madonna or source tags and codes... trail of dead are too much of sonic youth copy cats. i'm going to convert my metal friends into mars volta fans... i think i can succeed. then they will say, "finally, rock has returned." who knows, i might be wrong.

intodeep

Well i'm not going to comment on who is better then or zep their is too much personal taste that goes into music.

I will say i like these guys a lot. I did not like their newest album as much as the others. I have seem them headlinging once and as a supporting band twice. Their headlinging gig i saw was one of my favorite concerts. The other two times were good.

Great band one of my favorites of the 00's

I did love some ATDI though!

audiodave

I am a huge, huge fan of The Mars Volta and At The Drive In, but ATD-I a flavour of the week? I don't think so. These guys were an awesome, aweomse band. There is a lot of hype surrounding Relationship Of Command, and for a good reason. It is an astounding record. It isn't Linkin Park type hype, as most people are unaware of ATD-I, and it's only really people who are really into rock music who like them...I think i've only ever met a couple of fans. Relationship Of Command was their most complete work, but their other albums are still great, albeit a lot more raw sounding. In/Casino/Out has some brilliant moments, and though Acrobatic Tenement was short, it's a really good early record by them.

TMV were formed as Cedric and Omar wanted to go in another direction, but please don't discredit ATD-I.

Anyway, I love The Mars Volta, but I don't think you're going to get many people to agree with you in this thread. You either get it, or you don't, and it seems a lot of people don't with this band, which is fair enough. Doesn't seem like they are the kind of band you can listen to casually. Also, I don't think people are going to like the comparison you're making with Led Zep. As far as most people are concerned, there's a few bands that are untouchable, and thus we not allowed to compare othe bands to them (Beatles, Led Zep, Pink Floyd etc...)

De-Loused In The Comatorium is one of my favourite albums of all time. I've listened to it so much, and I love how you can still discover something new upon each listen that you had never noticed before. Frances was good too, and it had some awesome songs, but it doesn't flow as well to me as De-Loused. I have yet to listen to Amputechture for some unknown reason, but I will. I have seen them live twice and been blown away both times, the are an amazing presence on stage.

As far And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Dead...I have seen them live, and I thought they were horrible.

hendrix78

I agree with the original poster that the Mars Volta is the most exciting, most envelope pushing rock band since Zeppelin. They also have a level of musicianship comparable to Zeppelin, which I think is a very rare thing these days. After getting into the Mars Volta, I listened to At the Drive-In and, while it was good hardcore influenced stuff, it doesn't hold a candle to the Volta for me.

The only new bands outside of underground stuff that have excited me at all since 2000 are the White Stripes, the Black Keys, My Morning Jacket, and Mars Volta. Of those bands, I think Mars Volta are the best.

hendrix78

audiodave wrote:

I am a huge, huge fan of The Mars Volta and At The Drive In, but ATD-I a flavour of the week? I don't think so. These guys were an awesome, aweomse band. There is a lot of hype surrounding Relationship Of Command, and for a good reason. It is an astounding record. It isn't Linkin Park type hype, as most people are unaware of ATD-I, and it's only really people who are really into rock music who like them...I think i've only ever met a couple of fans. Relationship Of Command was their most complete work, but their other albums are still great, albeit a lot more raw sounding. In/Casino/Out has some brilliant moments, and though Acrobatic Tenement was short, it's a really good early record by them.

TMV were formed as Cedric and Omar wanted to go in another direction, but please don't discredit ATD-I.

Anyway, I love The Mars Volta, but I don't think you're going to get many people to agree with you in this thread. You either get it, or you don't, and it seems a lot of people don't with this band, which is fair enough. Doesn't seem like they are the kind of band you can listen to casually. Also, I don't think people are going to like the comparison you're making with Led Zep. As far as most people are concerned, there's a few bands that are untouchable, and thus we not allowed to compare othe bands to them (Beatles, Led Zep, Pink Floyd etc...)

De-Loused In The Comatorium is one of my favourite albums of all time. I've listened to it so much, and I love how you can still discover something new upon each listen that you had never noticed before. Frances was good too, and it had some awesome songs, but it doesn't flow as well to me as De-Loused. I have yet to listen to Amputechture for some unknown reason, but I will. I have seen them live twice and been blown away both times, the are an amazing presence on stage.

As far And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Dead...I have seen them live, and I thought they were horrible.

You should really get around to listening to Amputechture - it's awesome. It might be their most accessible album, but not in a bad way. The guitar work on it is phenomenal.

I would agree that Mars Volta isn;t meant to be listened to casually, but I would argue that neither was Zeppelin. I generally don't think anyone should cover Zeppelin, but I would love to hear the Mars Volta tackle Achilles Last Stand.

libragirl

I don't know....

imo led zeppelin was a far more superior band. I saw mars volta twice open for the rhcp and wanted to rip out my ear drums both times. They were awful. Unless they sound better on record.

1STmammal2wearPants

they make good music, but they should invest in a new lead singer, because his voice is horribly annoying.

DaytimeDilemma

Love TMV. Love ATDI. Just ordered Omar's solo album the other day. Can't wait to jam that.

Yellow Bedwetter

they were awful live the 2 times i saw them open for the RHCP
they may be good on EP but they have shitty speakers, etc. cuz all their songs sound like one long note filled with screaming and loud noise
Both times their set sounded like an hour long song

chrisopalooza

deadnothingbetter wrote:

i don't know about you guys but i'm going to be honest here. the mars volta is the best fucking band to come along since led zeppelin. nirvana wouldn't hold a light to these guys. these guys are a huge fucking deal... maybe part of it cause my cousin went to high school with cedric... and he still keeps in touch with him through emails. and plan to work together on some art projects but i just got a copy of the amputechture and frances the mute. song after song nothing but fucking rock ecstacy. viva la rock dudes... it's certainly still alive. listen to Tetragrammation off their amputechture... brings back the spirit of Yes from "Heart of the Sunrise" with a culmination of psychedellic stuff(but probably not as great as Heart of the Sunrise... that's song is the shit.. has anyone seen buffalo 66?) anyways... Tetragrammation. great song. great band.

no way, linkin park and my chemical romance by far. they're taking risks zeppelin never came close to taking.

audiodave

libragirl wrote:

I don't know....

imo led zeppelin was a far more superior band. I saw mars volta twice open for the rhcp and wanted to rip out my ear drums both times. They were awful. Unless they sound better on record.

I know Cedric and Omar are good friends with Flea and John, as they have both appeared on Mars Volta records, but they are really not a good choice for a support band for someone like the Chili's. Most people aren't going to enjoy it, as it's just not the same kind of music.

libragirl

audiodave wrote:

I know Cedric and Omar are good friends with Flea and John, as they have both appeared on Mars Volta records, but they are really not a good choice for a support band for someone like the Chili's. Most people aren't going to enjoy it, as it's just not the same kind of music.

Yeah that's the thing too, it's just a different type of music, it doesnt jive with the chili's. But I just really find the lead singer's voice horribly annoying. It's not even the music that really sucks.

Get_Right

hello
didnt PJ come a bit before mars volta?

PJ is the best rock band since zep.

josevolution

deadnothingbetter wrote:

the only thing i'd say is that mars volta might not be to your taste which is understandable. but what these guys are doing is amazing. again... if it's not you're style that's a whole other ball game. but right now they are the best rock band. talent-wise, influentially, their image, their style... they have it all. all these guys are talented. percussions, vocalists, guitarists... and even bass... cause they got flea playing for them in their albums. zach de la rocha is their biggest fan and for a good reason. these guys are the biggest band in mexico right now.... or maybe second to cafe tacuba. but these guys are seriously good. not, again, unless of course it's not your style. arctic monkeys got nothing to these guys. pearl jam, they had their days. franz ferdinand, nope. modest mouse, flaming lips, radiohead... nothing. these guys are bringing the spirit of rawness back into rock. they are doing exactly what led zeppelin, van halen, black sabbath and all these guys intended to do for rock.

that is your opinion and you lost me when you stated PJ HAD THEIR DAY so they are done ok i stated my dissagreement but really PJ HAD THEIR DAY .........not

audiodave

libragirl wrote:

Yeah that's the thing too, it's just a different type of music, it doesnt jive with the chili's. But I just really find the lead singer's voice horribly annoying. It's not even the music that really sucks.

Yeah I can understand why people might not like Cedric's voice. I can't listen to a band if I don't like the singer's voice.

gleemonex

The original poster is right. Led Zeppelin was a band of uncanny mastership of each instrument (including vocals). Mars Volta is the closest thing we can see to that kind of talent on stage. Every piece of the Mars Volta is perfect (including vocals). I've seen them three times live and they were spectacular twice and average once. They are so in sync with each other on stage it is really incredible to watch.

facepollution

Get_Right wrote:

hello
didnt PJ come a bit before mars volta?

PJ is the best rock band since zep.

Absolutely. I genuinely believe that Pearl Jam have a catalog of songs that stands up against any other rock band out there, from any period. What's more they have progressed and challenged both themselves and the listeners by refusing to play it safe.

Get_Right

facepollution wrote:

Absolutely. I genuinely believe that Pearl Jam have a catalog of songs that stands up against any other rock band out there, from any period. What's more they have progressed and challenged both themselves and the listeners by refusing to play it safe.

been saying it for at least ten years

"best rock band since led zeppelin"

Seriously, can you think of any other rockband that since 1980 that put out as much good material as PJ?

Metallica maybe. Van Halen was great in their prime, but it did not last.

Mars volta has about ten more years to go before they can start being compared to Zep

MCG

I don't think any of The Mars Volta's releases has been nearly as strong as Deloused was. That is an astounding record, BUT I would say they lost as many good elements as they gained by splitting up ATDI and becomming TMV. Relationship of Command is an amazing album and I would kill for a followup.

1STmammal2wearPants

Get_Right wrote:

Mars volta has about ten more years to go before they can start being compared to Zep

that and the fact that the mars volta lead singer doesn't have the pipes to match robert plant, and the fact that mars volta doesn't have a quarter of the mass appeal zep had. while i like some of mars volta's stuff, let's be honest here, the two bands aren't even in the same league.

deadnothingbetter

for the record, i the original poster, would like to state that i do not believe the mars volta is greater than led zep... nor do i believe that their music is similar to theirs. i'm talking about their influence... what i mean is just like nirvana "that defined a generation" lemme break it down this way. rock to me are categorized in 3 parts as of now. led zep era... nirvana era... mars volta era. if anybody is going to mention the 80's hairband era (i.e. Motley Crue or even metallica don't bother) or if you mention the New Wave era... i'm talking about rock here... not metal or new wave. First it was the Led Zep era/along with Black Sabbath. Then it was Nirvana era/along with Pearl Jam... two of the most greatest influential rock bands. Now it's the Mars Volta. i think they haven't been able to gain as much popularity because of their style of music... it's too far out. but what they are doing is the same thing that led zep/yes/black sabb/pink floyd were doing back in the days.

nirvana and pearl jam was something completely different in other words, their music was suitable for the radio, contrary to popular belief about what one would say in regards to pearl jam... that is, their music isn't played too much on the radio. so in this case mars volta isn't the greatest and the only thing out there for me... but what they are doing is defining a new face of rock... something that if they were At the Drive-in they wouldn't be able to accomplish. they were just another punk rock band. mars volta is a serious band... like that to the face of Led Zeppelin. and their music are masterworks. they put emphasis on their music to create art.

considering the vocals... i also know a whole group of people who are annoyed by eddie vedder's vocals so that's really not important here. and i love eddie vedder's vocals... i also love cedrick's too. my cousin tells me in their highschool days he was always singing and trying to reach highscale points in his vocals. he idolized jane's addictions lead singer (what's his name?) and he believed that he would become a rockstar someday, just never imagined it would be to the hype of led zep or pearl jam... or other great bands as them.

deadnothingbetter

Get_Right wrote:

Mars volta has about ten more years to go before they can start being compared to Zep

well, once they do... imagine that.

DaytimeDilemma

TMV are nothing really like Led Zeppelin beside the fact that Omar writes killer riffs. Led Zeppelin was more poppy in the fact that they wrote more complere songs. TMV are about moments and being experimental and such. They are more akin to Santana than Zeppelin. Also note that Zeppelin is blues based while TMV are more jazz based.