the best band since led zeppelin

josevolution

deadnothingbetter wrote:

the only thing i'd say is that mars volta might not be to your taste which is understandable. but what these guys are doing is amazing. again... if it's not you're style that's a whole other ball game. but right now they are the best rock band. talent-wise, influentially, their image, their style... they have it all. all these guys are talented. percussions, vocalists, guitarists... and even bass... cause they got flea playing for them in their albums. zach de la rocha is their biggest fan and for a good reason. these guys are the biggest band in mexico right now.... or maybe second to cafe tacuba. but these guys are seriously good. not, again, unless of course it's not your style. arctic monkeys got nothing to these guys. pearl jam, they had their days. franz ferdinand, nope. modest mouse, flaming lips, radiohead... nothing. these guys are bringing the spirit of rawness back into rock. they are doing exactly what led zeppelin, van halen, black sabbath and all these guys intended to do for rock.

that is your opinion and you lost me when you stated PJ HAD THEIR DAY so they are done ok i stated my dissagreement but really PJ HAD THEIR DAY .........not

audiodave

libragirl wrote:

Yeah that's the thing too, it's just a different type of music, it doesnt jive with the chili's. But I just really find the lead singer's voice horribly annoying. It's not even the music that really sucks.

Yeah I can understand why people might not like Cedric's voice. I can't listen to a band if I don't like the singer's voice.

gleemonex

The original poster is right. Led Zeppelin was a band of uncanny mastership of each instrument (including vocals). Mars Volta is the closest thing we can see to that kind of talent on stage. Every piece of the Mars Volta is perfect (including vocals). I've seen them three times live and they were spectacular twice and average once. They are so in sync with each other on stage it is really incredible to watch.

facepollution

Get_Right wrote:

hello
didnt PJ come a bit before mars volta?

PJ is the best rock band since zep.

Absolutely. I genuinely believe that Pearl Jam have a catalog of songs that stands up against any other rock band out there, from any period. What's more they have progressed and challenged both themselves and the listeners by refusing to play it safe.

Get_Right

facepollution wrote:

Absolutely. I genuinely believe that Pearl Jam have a catalog of songs that stands up against any other rock band out there, from any period. What's more they have progressed and challenged both themselves and the listeners by refusing to play it safe.

been saying it for at least ten years

"best rock band since led zeppelin"

Seriously, can you think of any other rockband that since 1980 that put out as much good material as PJ?

Metallica maybe. Van Halen was great in their prime, but it did not last.

Mars volta has about ten more years to go before they can start being compared to Zep

MCG

I don't think any of The Mars Volta's releases has been nearly as strong as Deloused was. That is an astounding record, BUT I would say they lost as many good elements as they gained by splitting up ATDI and becomming TMV. Relationship of Command is an amazing album and I would kill for a followup.

1STmammal2wearPants

Get_Right wrote:

Mars volta has about ten more years to go before they can start being compared to Zep

that and the fact that the mars volta lead singer doesn't have the pipes to match robert plant, and the fact that mars volta doesn't have a quarter of the mass appeal zep had. while i like some of mars volta's stuff, let's be honest here, the two bands aren't even in the same league.

deadnothingbetter

for the record, i the original poster, would like to state that i do not believe the mars volta is greater than led zep... nor do i believe that their music is similar to theirs. i'm talking about their influence... what i mean is just like nirvana "that defined a generation" lemme break it down this way. rock to me are categorized in 3 parts as of now. led zep era... nirvana era... mars volta era. if anybody is going to mention the 80's hairband era (i.e. Motley Crue or even metallica don't bother) or if you mention the New Wave era... i'm talking about rock here... not metal or new wave. First it was the Led Zep era/along with Black Sabbath. Then it was Nirvana era/along with Pearl Jam... two of the most greatest influential rock bands. Now it's the Mars Volta. i think they haven't been able to gain as much popularity because of their style of music... it's too far out. but what they are doing is the same thing that led zep/yes/black sabb/pink floyd were doing back in the days.

nirvana and pearl jam was something completely different in other words, their music was suitable for the radio, contrary to popular belief about what one would say in regards to pearl jam... that is, their music isn't played too much on the radio. so in this case mars volta isn't the greatest and the only thing out there for me... but what they are doing is defining a new face of rock... something that if they were At the Drive-in they wouldn't be able to accomplish. they were just another punk rock band. mars volta is a serious band... like that to the face of Led Zeppelin. and their music are masterworks. they put emphasis on their music to create art.

considering the vocals... i also know a whole group of people who are annoyed by eddie vedder's vocals so that's really not important here. and i love eddie vedder's vocals... i also love cedrick's too. my cousin tells me in their highschool days he was always singing and trying to reach highscale points in his vocals. he idolized jane's addictions lead singer (what's his name?) and he believed that he would become a rockstar someday, just never imagined it would be to the hype of led zep or pearl jam... or other great bands as them.

deadnothingbetter

Get_Right wrote:

Mars volta has about ten more years to go before they can start being compared to Zep

well, once they do... imagine that.

DaytimeDilemma

TMV are nothing really like Led Zeppelin beside the fact that Omar writes killer riffs. Led Zeppelin was more poppy in the fact that they wrote more complere songs. TMV are about moments and being experimental and such. They are more akin to Santana than Zeppelin. Also note that Zeppelin is blues based while TMV are more jazz based.

deadnothingbetter

DaytimeDilemma wrote:

TMV are nothing really like Led Zeppelin beside the fact that Omar writes killer riffs. Led Zeppelin was more poppy in the fact that they wrote more complere songs. TMV are about moments and being experimental and such. They are more akin to Santana than Zeppelin. Also note that Zeppelin is blues based while TMV are more jazz based.

"for the record, i the original poster, would like to state that i do not believe the mars volta is greater than led zep... nor do i believe that their music is similar to theirs. i'm talking about their influence... what i mean is just like nirvana 'they defined a generation'"

tonadax

i don´t think mars volta have had a better career or musicians than bands like:

alice in chains ´layne,cantrell,starr,kinney´
soundgarden ´cameron,cornell,sheperd,tahyil´
metallica ´hetfield,trujillo,ulrich,hammett´

deadnothingbetter

tonadax wrote:

i don´t think mars volta have had a better career than bands like:
alice in chains
soundgarden
nirvana
STP
RATM
QOTSA

nope, but soon enough they will. their music is much better than all those bands... especially stone temple pilots.

Scratchin a Letter

Zepp were great, but overrated to fuck.

catefrances

deadnothingbetter wrote:

no way dude. at the drive in was a minature mars volta. their influence isn't near to what mars volta is. just compare their music... literally. stop the cd and switch them over. you'll hear the difference. hell, that's why they got bigger now as mars volta... other than at the drive-in... they were nothing from another linkin park. all the pro's say the same thing about these guys. i know a crap load of musicians who are more into the modern rock stuff... all of them... i mean, all of them hold the mars volta as the band right now to the highest regards. not deftones, ratm, nin, tool or any of those bands hold the energy and high-powered tensions mars volta contains in their music. i might sound kinda absolute here but that's cause i'm listening to them right now.

oh i hear the difference. and im a fan of both atd-i and tmv. ive seen tmv a few times live and yes they are an experience. but they're not everyones experience. some people see them live and wonder what the fuck is going on. i myself have wondered that. but i have since found that if i close my eyes and just drift on the music im fine. actually watching cedric gives me a fucking headache.
oh and please. atd-i are not like linkin park at all.
who are all these pros you speak of? cause quite frankly mr shankly the only persons opinion i care about is my own.

Zoso

Scratchin a Letter wrote:

Zepp were great, but overrated to fuck.

how can you say they were great but... ? They either were or they weren't. I haven't seen TMV live before but here a re a few bands that almost compare with Zeppelin since they 'broke up'.

Muse
Arcade Fire

intodeep

tonadax wrote:

i don´t think mars volta have had a better career or musicians than bands like:

alice in chains ´layne,cantrell,starr,kinney´
soundgarden ´cameron,cornell,sheperd,tahyil´
metallica ´hetfield,trujillo,ulrich,hammett´

Career you are probably right as far as popularity goes, but musician wise i think they are better then all three bands you mentioned above.

those bands may have wrote catchier riffs for radio play but i really believe omar, cedric, and jon theodore when he was with the band are better then any combination above from a strictly musical standpoint.

for the record i love all three of those bands so i'm not downing them just my opinion.

searchlightsoul

I genuinely believe that Soundgarden is a qualifier here. The 3 album stretch of Badmotorfinger, Superunkown and Down on the Upside is unmatched by any band I have heard. And individually each of the band members consistently rates in the top 50 of their discipline.

deadnothingbetter

catefrances wrote:

oh i hear the difference. and im a fan of both atd-i and tmv. ive seen tmv a few times live and yes they are an experience. but they're not everyones experience. some people see them live and wonder what the fuck is going on. i myself have wondered that. but i have since found that if i close my eyes and just drift on the music im fine. actually watching cedric gives me a fucking headache.
oh and please. atd-i are not like linkin park at all.
who are all these pros you speak of? cause quite frankly mr shankly the only persons opinion i care about is my own.

put it this way... the mars volta have the capacity of making it into the rock and roll hall of fame... as for at the drive-in, well, they don't.

1STmammal2wearPants

deadnothingbetter wrote:

put it this way... the mars volta have the capacity of making it into the rock and roll hall of fame... as for at the drive-in, well, they don't.

a big qualification there though is influence/record sales, neither of which the mars volta have.