Zack De La Rocha continues to call for revolution

musicismylife78

Oh how I wish i was at Rock the Bells. Zack dropped this bomb at the show!

"we need to rise up like the youth in Iraq and bring these fuckers to their knees"

And he said the band and he refuse to back down from calling for Bush to be tried and hung

There are very few people I agree with more in the world than Zack

Its a question of what we as a generation decide to do. Are we willing to graduate, get married have kids, buy our white houses and white picket fences. Or are we going to refuse that, and say "hey thats not how it works"

Bush is a murderer and killer and a war criminal.

And the only way to stop the goddamn war, isnt to go gaga for Obama or Hillary. They aint gonna end it folks.

As Ben Harper said "there are two ways things change. 1)people say "hey I aint going to stand for you putting your boots on my chest any more, and rising up or 2) manhattan being submerged in water due to global warming, or a similar crazy event. And he further stated, its past time for reform.

We need to rise up. Rise! RISE! This system doesnt give a crap about you. And if you think Obama and hilary give a damn about you you must be high on meth.

RISE!

snipes824

rock the bells was fucking amazing. best concert ever.

Pearl Jam and toast

In all honesty, one or two hundred years ago we probably would have actually hung Bush and his administration - and with good reason. Rock on.

pjl44

This administration has been abysmal, but if De La Rocha, et. al continue with this kneejerk, hyperbolic horseshit you better prepare yourself for 4 years of Mitt Romney...

musicismylife78

pjl44 wrote:

This administration has been abysmal, but if De La Rocha, et. al continue with this kneejerk, hyperbolic horseshit you better prepare yourself for 4 years of Mitt Romney...

couldnt disagree more. What better time than now to speak out to reference a rage lyric. I wouldnt say they are being kneejerk. Its like Ed saying Bush is a killer and people calling that kneejerk

Rage has been explicitly political from the beginning. it was clear they hated all politicans and that they felt the only solution was flat out revolution. A socialist society.

So to say they are being hyperbolic and kneejerk is ludicrous and stupid basically

yieldtome

Cheguevara6 wrote:

Oh how I wish i was at Rock the Bells. Zack dropped this bomb at the show!

"we need to rise up like the youth in Iraq and bring these fuckers to their knees"

And he said the band and he refuse to back down from calling for Bush to be tried and hung

There are very few people I agree with more in the world than Zack

Its a question of what we as a generation decide to do. Are we willing to graduate, get married have kids, buy our white houses and white picket fences. Or are we going to refuse that, and say "hey thats not how it works"

Bush is a murderer and killer and a war criminal.

And the only way to stop the goddamn war, isnt to go gaga for Obama or Hillary. They aint gonna end it folks.

As Ben Harper said "there are two ways things change. 1)people say "hey I aint going to stand for you putting your boots on my chest any more, and rising up or 2) manhattan being submerged in water due to global warming, or a similar crazy event. And he further stated, its past time for reform.

We need to rise up. Rise! RISE! This system doesnt give a crap about you. And if you think Obama and hilary give a damn about you you must be high on meth.

RISE!

If the government and economy that allows Zach to not only "continue to call for revolution," but also make millions of dollars while doing it, is so bad, let Mr. De La Rocha lob the first grenade. The mob mentality is bullshit, and Americans in general have had their asses powdered for so long that to hear a U.S. citizen call for revolution smacks of an absurd cry for relevance. So here's a challenge for Zach: Put your money where your mouth is. If you want to preach about some idealistic utopian socialism that only exists in a political vaccuum, that's fine, knock yourself out...God knows it's your right. If you want to represent your cause through charity, go right ahead, it can't hurt anything. However, if you are going to call for a bloody revolution (and glorify guerilla tactics), don't stop at rhetoric, and don't rely on a mob of your fans to do the dirty work. March your free ass to Washington, and make the morning papers. Otherwise, shut the hypocritical hole in your face.

muppet

YEAH LIKE FUCK AMERICA DUDE

Come on. I love Rage and I don't like the Bush administration. But you're not going to get a rap band to start a revolution.

To be honest, I think De La Rocha is very hypocritical. I've never really agreed or followed with Rage's politics, at least not the violent methods they seem to encourage.

I think that all this "we need Rage now more than ever" is kind of bullshit. They're a great band but they're not going to destroy the Bush administration. "But they're not trying to do that!" Well tell that to Tom Morello. Have you seen some of the interviews with him?

pjl44

Cheguevara6 wrote:

couldnt disagree more. What better time than now to speak out to reference a rage lyric. I wouldnt say they are being kneejerk. Its like Ed saying Bush is a killer and people calling that kneejerk

Rage has been explicitly political from the beginning. it was clear they hated all politicans and that they felt the only solution was flat out revolution. A socialist society.

So to say they are being hyperbolic and kneejerk is ludicrous and stupid basically

What's stupid is calling for Bush to be hung. It's stupid because it never could/should happen. It's also stupid because anyone continuing to call out Bush and not Cheney as the ultimate instigator of 90% of our woes either can't read or is too lazy to do so.

Our political troubles continue to be fueled by your Ann Coulters, Zach de la Rochas, Bill O'Reillys and Michael Moores. Provocate your masses with the most insane shit you can spew out of your mouth rather than sit down with the "bad guys" on "the other team" and discuss REAL issues with an eye toward REAL solutions.

Or you can just paint a swastika on George Bush's head and tell yourself you're making a difference...

soulsinging

Cheguevara6 wrote:

"we need to rise up like the youth in Iraq and bring these fuckers to their knees"

And he said the band and he refuse to back down from calling for Bush to be tried and hung

There are very few people I agree with more in the world than Zack

i thought you were a pacfisit?

Cheguevara6 wrote:

Rise! RISE!
RISE!

i giggle every time i see that.

DOSW

muppet wrote:

YEAH LIKE FUCK AMERICA DUDE

Come on. I love Rage and I don't like the Bush administration. But you're not going to get a rap band to start a revolution.

To be honest, I think De La Rocha is very hypocritical. I've never really agreed or followed with Rage's politics, at least not the violent methods they seem to encourage.

I think that all this "we need Rage now more than ever" is kind of bullshit. They're a great band but they're not going to destroy the Bush administration. "But they're not trying to do that!" Well tell that to Tom Morello. Have you seen some of the interviews with him?

Why would you criticize them for actually trying to make a difference on a large scale? If you don't like their message of sometimes violent uprising, then fair enough. But to scoff at them for trying to envoke change? Seems kinda low to me.

FreshTendrils

DOSW wrote:

Why would you criticize them for actually trying to make a difference on a large scale? If you don't like their message of sometimes violent uprising, then fair enough. But to scoff at them for trying to envoke change? Seems kinda low to me.

I agree, although I've never really understood why people say things like "we need *insert a defunct band here with political overtones* right now." Why does a person need a band to get the ball moving.

soulsinging

FreshTendrils wrote:

I agree, although I've never really understood why people say things like "we need *insert a defunct band here with political overtones* right now." Why does a person need a band to get the ball moving.

cos they're all talk and too pussy to do it themselves and know it will never happen so it's safer to just talk about how someone else should kick it off.

JaneNY

pjl44 wrote:

Our political troubles continue to be fueled by your Ann Coulters, Zach de la Rochas, Bill O'Reillys and Michael Moores.

Those are not necessarily painted with the same brush - Zach is a poet/musician, Moore is a filmmaker. Coulter and O'Reilly are just talkers.

Vedd Hedd

Cheguevara6 wrote:

Its a question of what we as a generation decide to do. Are we willing to graduate, get married have kids, buy our white houses and white picket fences. Or are we going to refuse that, and say "hey thats not how it works"

You know, I actually agree with some of what you have to say, but as an owner of a house and a fence, Im a little put off by that statement.

I see no reason why we cannot simply be politically active, while also working to support a family and home.

...and a white picket fence, or whatever icono-50's imagery that represents to you.

South of Seattle

JaneNY wrote:

Those are not necessarily painted with the same brush - Zach is a poet/musician, Moore is a filmmaker. Coulter and O'Reilly are just talkers.

But they are all entertainers.

jeffbr

JaneNY wrote:

Those are not necessarily painted with the same brush - Zach is a poet/musician, Moore is a filmmaker. Coulter and O'Reilly are just talkers.

They are all part of the entertainment industry. They are all fringe. They're polarizing. They are all hot air. Zach is all talk. One of those punk tuffs who wouldn't have the balls to do anything more revolutionary than cash royalty checks. His tirades are pure marketing.

DOSW

jeffbr wrote:

They are all part of the entertainment industry. They are all fringe. They're polarizing. They are all hot air. Zach is all talk. One of those punk tuffs who wouldn't have the balls to do anything more revolutionary than cash royalty checks. His tirades are pure marketing.

You know that for a fact? Or is that what you want to think?

jeffbr

DOSW wrote:

You know that for a fact? Or is that what you want to think?

Believe what you want to believe. Zack is counting on you to lead his revolution. You first! He'll be right behind you.

DOSW

jeffbr wrote:

Believe what you want to believe. Zack is counting on you to lead his revolution. You first! He'll be right behind you.

Okay, that didn't answer the question. More specifically what I was asking was, what leads you to believe that he's all talk? Is there actually something he did to make you think this, or is it just because you don't like him and/or his message?

Twatay

just look at the threadstarter's name and let it all sink in.

soulsinging

DOSW wrote:

Okay, that didn't answer the question. More specifically what I was asking was, what leads you to believe that he's all talk? Is there actually something he did to make you think this, or is it just because you don't like him and/or his message?

becos he's onstage calling for a violent and bloody revolution... while he is onstage making money talking about it. he's got enough $. why isn't he in the streets of dc gunning people down? cos he's full of shit and his revolution talk is just part of his image.