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  • Skitch Patterson
    Skitch Patterson Posts: 642
    BeerBaron wrote:
    But to call them selfish because they are playing a single $250 charity show is a very poor attitude.


    did i actually call them selfish? I call them hypocrites, and self rightous.
  • vedder_soup
    vedder_soup Posts: 5,861
    Skitch Patterson wrote:
    Yes, i get it. please continue to repeat points made by a dozen people already. I know its one show. Its for charity... blah blah blah.


    To me its another step in the continued and growing hypocrisy of Pearl Jam.

    have you not thought that the band will not be making a single cent out of this show! they don't have to do it, they could fly home to their families, but instead the make themselves available for an event which they trying to raise $3m million :eek:
    2003 - Sydney x3,
    2006 - Reading Festival,
    2007 - Katowice, London, Nijmegen, Rock Werchter,
    2008 - MSG x2, Hartford, Mansfield x2, Beacon Theater,
    2009 - Melbourne, Sydney,
    2010 - I watched it go to fire!
    2011 - EV Brisbane x3, Newcastle, Sydney x3,
    2012 - Manchester x 2, Amsterdam x2, Prague, Berlin x2, Stockholm, Oslo, Copenhagen,
    2014 - Sydney, EV Sydney x3

    I wave to all my Friends... Yeah!
  • Skitch Patterson
    Skitch Patterson Posts: 642
    vedder_soup wrote:
    have you not thought that the band will not be making a single cent out of this show! they don't have to do it, they could fly home to their families, but instead the make themselves available for an event which they trying to raise $3m million :eek:


    and my whole point is that the charity angle, and the donating their time angle has absolutely nothing to do with it.

    Pearl Jam has decided to do an extremely exclusionary event based purely on the wealth of the fans... their heart may be in the right place, but ultimately its hypocrisy.
  • vedder_soup
    vedder_soup Posts: 5,861
    Skitch Patterson wrote:
    and my whole point is that the charity angle, and the donating their time angle has absolutely nothing to do with it.

    Pearl Jam has decided to do an extremely exclusionary event based purely on the wealth of the fans... their heart may be in the right place, but ultimately its hypocrisy.

    and why is it hypocrisy??
    is it because the more wealthy and more fortunate are giving away what is teirs, and giving it to the less advantaged????
    That my friend is what we call charity!
    2003 - Sydney x3,
    2006 - Reading Festival,
    2007 - Katowice, London, Nijmegen, Rock Werchter,
    2008 - MSG x2, Hartford, Mansfield x2, Beacon Theater,
    2009 - Melbourne, Sydney,
    2010 - I watched it go to fire!
    2011 - EV Brisbane x3, Newcastle, Sydney x3,
    2012 - Manchester x 2, Amsterdam x2, Prague, Berlin x2, Stockholm, Oslo, Copenhagen,
    2014 - Sydney, EV Sydney x3

    I wave to all my Friends... Yeah!
  • Skitch Patterson
    Skitch Patterson Posts: 642
    vedder_soup wrote:
    and why is it hypocrisy??
    is it because the more wealthy and more fortunate are giving away what is teirs, and giving it to the less advantaged????
    That my friend is what we call charity!


    Hypocrisy because they sign song decrying the advantages given to the rich...


    and they are now giving an advantage to the rich.
  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,321
    Skitch Patterson wrote:
    Hypocrisy because they sign song decrying the advantages given to the rich...


    and they are now giving an advantage to the rich.

    funny, i always believed PJ/eV's songs that touched on material wealth/success had a clear message decrying those who abused their advantage to the detriment of the disadvantaged, rather than spreading the wealth and success around to benefit all and not just a single individual,...sort of what the Robin Hood Foundation and PJ's performance at the Beacon is all about :)
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

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  • Skitch Patterson
    Skitch Patterson Posts: 642
    100 Pacer wrote:
    funny, i always believed PJ/eV's songs that touched on material wealth/success had a clear message decrying those who abused their advantage to the detriment of the disadvantaged, rather than spreading the wealth and success around to benefit all and not just a single individual,...sort of what the Robin Hood Foundation and PJ's performance at the Beacon is all about :)


    tell that to philanthropist Bill Gates, the oft-speculated subject of "Soon Forget"

    and after you tell him, go take a look at how much he has donated to charity.
  • JosephK
    JosephK Posts: 224
    This thread is giving me a headache now. It started fun and positive and full of excitement and now it's bitter and angry. Sigh.

    I'm in for 250 and pumped! Who else is PUMPED that this is going to be a great show!?!?!
  • jimbojones1138
    jimbojones1138 Posts: 3,640
    robin hood steals from the RICH and gives to the poor...taking that stance, that is in essence what they are doing here... just a bunch of crazy pj fans got inivolved... me personally, i would sell one of my kidneys to get into their shows... its not hypocrisy... its following the robin hood tradition of giving to the less fortunate... if you dont like it, dont go regardless of whether you can afford it or not
    it's largely due to eddie that i liked to jump off of things as a child...
  • jimbojones1138
    jimbojones1138 Posts: 3,640
    pimprock wrote:
    Who else is PUMPED that this is going to be a great show!?!?!


    this guy ... this guy right here... so psyched
    it's largely due to eddie that i liked to jump off of things as a child...
  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,321
    Skitch Patterson wrote:
    tell that to philanthropist Bill Gates, the oft-speculated subject of "Soon Forget"

    and after you tell him, go take a look at how much he has donated to charity.

    gasp, dare i say you're "presuming" to know how much Bill Gates has dontated to charity? not enough in your opinion? what is the exact number if you don't mind my asking?

    if your argument's position/ammunition is that the wealthy aren't donating "enough" if at all, what is your take on an acceptable donation for Bill Gates and the rest of the uber-wealthy? in the mean time, this benefit is geared towards the wealthy NYC crowd (don't think they fall under the uber-wealthy category) who could easily unload the same amount on a Gucci purse or new HDTV entertainment system as they would on a pair of orchestra seats at the Beacon, which seems like a fair trade to me. otherwise, this event isn't directly geared towards 10C members, die-hard, and/or casual PJ fans - some will be able to justify the cost of tickets and some won't, some will be able to afford to luxury of attending and some won't BUT how does that differ from any other PJ concert situation, where a fair production value cost is charged to the consumer?
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

    1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore - 2025: Hollywood X2, Atlanta 2, Nashville X2, Pittsburgh X2
  • Skitch Patterson
    Skitch Patterson Posts: 642
    100 Pacer wrote:
    gasp, dare i say you're "presuming" to know how much Bill Gates has dontated to charity? not enough in your opinion? what is the exact number if you don't mind my asking?

    if your argument's position/ammunition is that the wealthy aren't donating "enough" if at all, what is your take on an acceptable donation for Bill Gates and the rest of the uber-wealthy? in the mean time, this benefit is geared towards the wealthy NYC crowd (don't think they fall under the uber-wealthy category) who could easily unload the same amount on a Gucci purse or new HDTV entertainment system as they would on a pair of orchestra seats at the Beacon, which seems like a fair trade to me. otherwise, this event isn't directly geared towards 10C members, die-hard, and/or casual PJ fans - some will be able to justify the cost of tickets and some won't, some will be able to afford to luxury of attending and some won't BUT how does that differ from any other PJ concert situation, where a fair production value cost is charged to the consumer?


    Nope, thats opposite of what im saying... Pearl Jam made a thinly veiled attack on bill gates JUST because he is rich... even though he donates a shit load of money.

    and EXACTLY. the benefit is geared to those with lots of disposable income... not the fans of their music, and in most cases, the type of materialistic folks (a new gucci purse) etc that the "ideals" pearl jam seems to preach seem to be against.
  • wendy wrocks
    wendy wrocks Posts: 135
    I can't stand people who think they're entitled to something because of who they are. I hope none of you whiners and killjoys come to any of the shows because I don't want to meet you. I'm fun and happy until I read 35 pages of pointless arguing.

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  • blazedoutbee
    blazedoutbee Posts: 254
    I hope you're not at the show because you sound like a real killjoy.
  • NotoriousIMP
    NotoriousIMP Posts: 141
    If I was a member of Pearl Jam and read this thread and some others, I would be very disappointed in some of you. We are here for one reason THE MUSIC!!!
    Opinions are great, but stop the fighting.

    Looking forward to meeting some of you @ the Beacon. Put some faces to these posts.
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  • Red Lukin
    Red Lukin Canada Posts: 2,994
    NotoriousIMP wrote:
    If I was a member of Pearl Jam and read this thread and some others, I would be very disappointed in some of you. We are here for one reason THE MUSIC!!!
    Opinions are great, but stop the fighting.

    Looking forward to meeting some of you @ the Beacon. Put some faces to these posts.

    I totally agree. Even if members of the band don't read this forum I'm sure they hear from others that all the fans do is bitch. When I go to a show it seems Pearl Jam fans are some of the best fans of any band, but reading this forum half the time makes me think I'm communicating with totally different people.

    I have nothing against people stating an opinion even if it is negative, but being rude is another thing. Also, the forum members who attack someone for stating their opinion are just as guily.
  • blazedoutbee
    blazedoutbee Posts: 254
    the real bitching will begin when people start flipping these on ebay.
  • blazedoutbee
    blazedoutbee Posts: 254
    open bar. plus in the city drinks are expensive. open bar, free t-shirt, free poster. when you add all that up its worth 250. do you want me to explain the concept of time value of money? these will fetch 1000's on ebay guaranteed. oh and open bar on every floor.
  • Red Lukin
    Red Lukin Canada Posts: 2,994
    blazedoutbee wrote:
    open bar. plus in the city drinks are expensive. open bar, free t-shirt, free poster. when you add all that up its worth 250. do you want me to explain the concept of time value of money? these will fetch 1000's on ebay guaranteed. oh and open bar on every floor.

    Nice, I didn't even know about the shirt and poster. What kind of poster - like the regular Klausen/Ames type PJ posters? If so that's cool..saved me $30 right there.
  • blazedoutbee
    blazedoutbee Posts: 254
    Red Lukin wrote:
    Nice, I didn't even know about the shirt and poster. What kind of poster - like the regular Klausen/Ames type PJ posters? If so that's cool..saved me $30 right there.

    Last time I went to a RobinHood benefit show was two years ago and it was the Rolling Stones and the B-52s opened for them. It was at radio city music hall and the place was packed. But they had an open bar on every floor and on both sides. Come in grab a top shelf drink( was drinking Johnny Black all night Long) go to your seat and there was a t-shirt and rolled up poster to commerate the night. It was fucking awesome night, they played four songs that I never heard live.(worried about you, she was hot, waiting on a friend, and can't you hear me knocking) This is going to be an amazing night, trust me the last time people were offering me 1000 for one ticket. Not sure if they will be ames posters or Klausen. But last show was free t-shirt, poster, and free top shelf drinks all night long. This is 3 million were talking here PJ will pull out all the stops this will be better than IRVING PLAZA and the show of the year. Plus this is the last show of the tour.

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