Tool vs. A Perfect Circle

pjoasisrule

Innocent_Bystander wrote:

I understand. It took me awhile to stray from my 4/4 timing comfort zone.

Its not just that, I hate the guys voice, their arrangements make no sense, and I dont like their image

pj10alive42

pjoasisrule wrote:

Its not just that, I hate the guys voice, their arrangements make no sense, and I dont like their image

I must respectfully disagree with your opinion.

Innocent_Bystander

pjoasisrule wrote:

Its not just that, I hate the guys voice, their arrangements make no sense, and I dont like their image

To each his own. I think the singer has a very powerful voice and I love the musical arrangements. The Fibonacci sequence in Lateralus is amazing, combined with the 9/8 - 8/8 - 7/8 timing. I like the anti-establishment image that they have created for themselves too. For the most part, they still have personal freedom.

pjoasisrule

Innocent_Bystander wrote:

To each his own. I think the singer has a very powerful voice and I love the musical arrangements. The Fibonacci sequence in Lateralus is amazing, combined with the 9/8 - 8/8 - 7/8 timing. I like the anti-establishment image that they have created for themselves too. For the most part, they still have personal freedom.

I respect them for making interesting music, I just cant stand their music. To me they sound like a band mixing progressive with post grunge (awful new popular rock)

pj10alive42

pjoasisrule wrote:

I respect them for making interesting music, I just cant stand their music. To me they sound like a band mixing progressive with post grunge (awful new popular rock)

I don't quite understand what you mean by "new popular rock"...Tool has been around since 1990 (that's before PJ!!!) Their sound is anything but new...they helped to create the alternative that you love and adore...look at the history...Tool is there and they always will be...

pjoasisrule

pj10alive42 wrote:

I don't quite understand what you mean by "new popular rock"...Tool has been around since 1990 (that's before PJ!!!) Their sound is anything but new...they helped to create the alternative that you love and adore...look at the history...Tool is there and they always will be...

Their sound is too much like Korn, Three Days Grace, Shinedown, Incubus, etc.

Innocent_Bystander

The term new popular rock resonates with APC, but not with Tool. Tool has been a pioneer for the alternative scene for 15+ years now, far from new or popular. They have been on the other side of that line since the beginning.

Innocent_Bystander

pjoasisrule wrote:

Their sound is too much like Korn, Three Days Grace, Shinedown, Incubus, etc.

You musta been high

nowayimfaithfull

yosi wrote:

I could never really get into any APC after Mer De Noms, which I absolutely loved. The thing is, even though I like that album more than any Tool album, I generally like more Tool across the board than APC.

Does that make sense? Like Mer De Noms much more than any Tool album, but like more variety/general Tool than APC.

yes, But on a whole nother scale the second album was very differant and cool.

nowayimfaithfull

Jennytree wrote:

Well I don't think APC have much of a chance. Mer De Noms is a great album, and so too is Thirteenth Step, but eMotive was bollix... and two good albums versus all of the Tool catalogue just isn't fair!

Tool win hands down!

You have to keep in mind it is a side project.

Josh freeze is the drummer and he has an another band.

pjoasisrule

Innocent_Bystander wrote:

The term new popular rock resonates with APC, but not with Tool. Tool has been a pioneer for the alternative scene for 15+ years now, far from new or popular. They have been on the other side of that line since the beginning.

I know that they have been around for awhile, and yes they are pretty popular, and I think those newer bands sound like them.

nowayimfaithfull

pj10alive42 wrote:

I must respectfully disagree with your opinion.

We agree.
The singer is very talanted.

Their band is solid and has a great image.

pj10alive42

pjoasisrule wrote:

Their sound is too much like Korn, Three Days Grace, Shinedown, Incubus, etc.

You have clearly never listened to Tool. The equivalent of your comment would be to say that Pearl Jam's sound is too much like Creed and Nickleback...very very wrong and overly insulting...

pj10alive42

pjoasisrule wrote:

I know that they have been around for awhile, and yes they are pretty popular, and I think those newer bands sound like them.

Well, following your argument...Creed, Daughtry, and Shinedown sound like Pearl Jam...so wrong...so very very wrong.

deadmosquito

i like both a lot... but the melodies of APC grab me more than the eccentricities of the tool albums. not to say that they aren't great (especially aenima and lateralus) but APC is a lot easier for me to relate to and appreciate. tool is awesome if i want to sit down and listen to a whole record and think about it and absorb everything, but if i'm just listening to music while driving or something, i prefer APC. i dont' feel like i have to listen to a whole album all at once to "get" a single song.

Jennytree

Mushmouthmatt wrote:

i used to like Tool... when i was in high school. ... and before i discovered Isis.

what i really hate about Tool is how long it takes them to release a mediocre album and all these fanboys lap it up. yeah, i know they're great musicans but how many times can you listen to a 15 minute song that doesn't go anywhere? some of that stuff at the end of Lateralus is just horrible. AND i had to sit through some of that stuff live.. talk about being bored out of my skull! heard a good chunk of the newest album and alot of the riffs sounded like Godsmack or something i'd already heard on AEnema.

like i said before, i'm not in high school anymore.

Woah... you think Tools music is less productive than Isis'? That just doesn't make sense. I have listened to Isis, and I like them, but there is no way they intrigue me more than Tool ever have or will. Isis don't have many lyrics... which is their choice, (and of course I don't believe you need lyrics to make good music) but Maynards vocals and lyrics just completely blow the mind. 10,000 days live was just a fantastic experience, and I can't imagine Isis putting on such a show. But I guess I'll find out over the summer when I go see them... then I'll be more qualified to judge.

A Surprise Left

APC has better melodies for the most part and its more straight-forward rock. I think APC are a lot more accessible but Tool are more rewarding when you do get to something really good. For instance I don't think Maynard has ever sung anything better than the "i dropped my pen" section of "rosetta stoned."

yellowled24

pjoasisrule wrote:

Their sound is too much like Korn, Three Days Grace, Shinedown, Incubus, etc.

WTF??????

Im sorry but Tool and APC sound NOTHING like Korn!! I love all three bands (well, Korn i like, but not love) but Korn should not even be compared to APC or Tool. Completely different sounds i think.

yellowled24

A Surprise Left wrote:

APC has better melodies for the most part and its more straight-forward rock. I think APC are a lot more accessible but Tool are more rewarding when you do get to something really good. For instance I don't think Maynard has ever sung anything better than the "i dropped my pen" section of "rosetta stoned."

I agree with every word you wrote.....ah, typed!

yellowled24

deadmosquito wrote:

i like both a lot... but the melodies of APC grab me more than the eccentricities of the tool albums. not to say that they aren't great (especially aenima and lateralus) but APC is a lot easier for me to relate to and appreciate. tool is awesome if i want to sit down and listen to a whole record and think about it and absorb everything, but if i'm just listening to music while driving or something, i prefer APC. i dont' feel like i have to listen to a whole album all at once to "get" a single song.

completely off track, but as i type this your post count says 1000 so i just thought ide congratulate you!