Fender Amps?

HailHailVitalogy

yeah the Red Snapper and Dirty Blonde are the pedals I want from Menatone

seanw1010

ive got this one called a fender supersonic112- best amp i have ever used. got it a month ago, love it
check em out-
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-SuperSonic-112-Guitar-Combo-Amp?sku=480874


http://www.fender.com/products/supersonic/

keeponrockin

seanw1010 wrote:

ive got this one called a fender supersonic112- best amp i have ever used. got it a month ago, love it
check em out-
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-SuperSonic-112-Guitar-Combo-Amp?sku=480874


http://www.fender.com/products/supersonic/

I've heard of those... I'm gonna check one out when I get the chance. What would be a good distortion pedal for the Twin?

seanw1010

keeponrockin wrote:

I've heard of those... I'm gonna check one out when I get the chance. What would be a good distortion pedal for the Twin?

i dont kno about distortion but ive always been fond of those ibanez tube screamer pedals- http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ibanez-TS808-Vintage-Tube-Screamer-Reissue?sku=150343

keeponrockin

seanw1010 wrote:

i dont kno about distortion but ive always been fond of those ibanez tube screamer pedals- http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ibanez-TS808-Vintage-Tube-Screamer-Reissue?sku=150343

Aren't those more for overdriving a dirty amp? I may pick one up if I buy the 'Evil Twin'.

seanw1010

keeponrockin wrote:

Aren't those more for overdriving a dirty amp? I may pick one up if I buy the 'Evil Twin'.

yea,
even so, it sounds awsome on virtually any amp

keeponrockin

seanw1010 wrote:

yea,
even so, it sounds awsome on virtually any amp

After I get the amp... It's gonna be a while:(

All Those Yesterdays

HailHailVitalogy wrote:

200$?!?! holy shit

Sure it's a circuit board reissue but the tube sockets are not soldered to a board, which is a plus. But you can get a 2 12 cabinet to fit that (copying fender identically) Bought a new transformer for it so he could go too a 2 12 set up for $68 or something. Sold the old one for $45. Couple vintage 30's and some new tubes, and that thinking will be screaming!!!

HailHailVitalogy

All Those Yesterdays wrote:

Sure it's a circuit board reissue but the tube sockets are not soldered to a board, which is a plus. But you can get a 2 12 cabinet to fit that (copying fender identically) Bought a new transformer for it so he could go too a 2 12 set up for $68 or something. Sold the old one for $45. Couple vintage 30's and some new tubes, and that thinking will be screaming!!!

That's an amazing deal. I hope it all works out for him, sounds great!

All Those Yesterdays

HailHailVitalogy wrote:

That's an amazing deal. I hope it all works out for him, sounds great!

Should be super cool. When its done I'll have him make some sound clips

gimmesometruth27

sorry for the crazy thread bump.

i am in the market for a smaller fender combo. i am thinking maybe a blues junior, blues deluxe, or a hotrod deluxe. at this point i am looking at used. i don't feel like having to take the time to break in a new amp.

I am looking for something with a good clean that is pedal friendly and friendly with single coils and humbuckers.

i have not played any of these amps, but have listened to a lot of youtube reviews and i seem to like the sound of the blues junior best. 

I am not sold on the idea of a single speaker, as i have always played 2x12 or half stacks. the blues junior seems to sound good with a single speaker, but i read that people always change out the stock speaker to something else, which i do not want to mess with.

any thoughts would be really appreciated.

thanks all!!

dudeman

gimmesometruth27 said:

sorry for the crazy thread bump.

i am in the market for a smaller fender combo. i am thinking maybe a blues junior, blues deluxe, or a hotrod deluxe. at this point i am looking at used. i don't feel like having to take the time to break in a new amp.

I am looking for something with a good clean that is pedal friendly and friendly with single coils and humbuckers.

i have not played any of these amps, but have listened to a lot of youtube reviews and i seem to like the sound of the blues junior best. 

I am not sold on the idea of a single speaker, as i have always played 2x12 or half stacks. the blues junior seems to sound good with a single speaker, but i read that people always change out the stock speaker to something else, which i do not want to mess with.

any thoughts would be really appreciated.

thanks all!!

Aside from the tube compliment, my biggest issue with the Blues Jr. is that the cabinet is too small for a 12" speaker to really sound right. Low volume is OK, not great, but when you crank it up they sound box-y and the dispersion is pretty bad. (Sounds bright and clear directly in front of the amp but one step to the side and it's dark and muffled.)

There are lots of mods out there that can really improve these amps from stock, but you get into Princeton or Deluxe Reverb RI prices pretty quick. 

HRD is a good sounding amp but the drive channel is "love it" or "hate it". Not the best track record for reliability either. The newest ones, (IV) have addressed some common complaints and the reverb is actually usable through a wider range of the knob's travel.

If I were in your shoes, I would be looking at the Pro Jr., Super Champ X2, Princeton RI or Deluxe Reverb RI. They are all readily available on the used market for reasonable prices but they are very different from one another features-wise. Best to ask yourself if you need things like reverb or multiple channels and narrow it down from there.

gimmesometruth27

dudeman said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

sorry for the crazy thread bump.

i am in the market for a smaller fender combo. i am thinking maybe a blues junior, blues deluxe, or a hotrod deluxe. at this point i am looking at used. i don't feel like having to take the time to break in a new amp.

I am looking for something with a good clean that is pedal friendly and friendly with single coils and humbuckers.

i have not played any of these amps, but have listened to a lot of youtube reviews and i seem to like the sound of the blues junior best. 

I am not sold on the idea of a single speaker, as i have always played 2x12 or half stacks. the blues junior seems to sound good with a single speaker, but i read that people always change out the stock speaker to something else, which i do not want to mess with.

any thoughts would be really appreciated.

thanks all!!

Aside from the tube compliment, my biggest issue with the Blues Jr. is that the cabinet is too small for a 12" speaker to really sound right. Low volume is OK, not great, but when you crank it up they sound box-y and the dispersion is pretty bad. (Sounds bright and clear directly in front of the amp but one step to the side and it's dark and muffled.)

There are lots of mods out there that can really improve these amps from stock, but you get into Princeton or Deluxe Reverb RI prices pretty quick. 

HRD is a good sounding amp but the drive channel is "love it" or "hate it". Not the best track record for reliability either. The newest ones, (IV) have addressed some common complaints and the reverb is actually usable through a wider range of the knob's travel.

If I were in your shoes, I would be looking at the Pro Jr., Super Champ X2, Princeton RI or Deluxe Reverb RI. They are all readily available on the used market for reasonable prices but they are very different from one another features-wise. Best to ask yourself if you need things like reverb or multiple channels and narrow it down from there.

thanks for the input. i guess the only way to know is to actually play them all. i can't really tell from the videos i have watched.

i know that i do not want to have to do any mods to get something that should sound good out of the box to sound decent. if i wanted to do that why not just look at other brands, or pay a premium for one of the hand wired princetons?

my biggest complaint about the princeton is it is only 12 watts. the BJ is only 15 so that is not that much of a difference in that regard. i watched a video where they compare a stock princeton from this year with a handwired princeton from the same year and the hand wired kills it. it does not even sound like the same amp. i am not looking to spend $800-1000 on a amp i do not plan to gig. i have my matchless and my marshall halfstacks for that. this would mainly be for home use, setup in my office so i can play while i am listening to music.

i have heard that about the HRD drive channel. i have never been a big fan of fender drive sounds, but since i am playing a tele now i am interested in hearing how they sound.

i will check out the ones you suggest. i would like to have on board reverb because i really like the fender clean with the spring reverb sound. i do not need multiple channels i do not think. most of my amps are single channel and i am used to getting clean and dirt with my guitar volume knob.

fender has so many options, and then so many variations of each option, haha. its not like you can go into a store and say "give me a single channel jcm 800", and immediately get exactly what you are looking for, haha.

gimmesometruth27

i was looking at reissue bassmans (bassmen for plural??) and found out that these are basically primitive marshalls, as marshall basically stole that schematic and used it in their early amps. i already have an early 70s jmp so no need for a bassman. that is kind of how i started on this quest for a fender combo...

gimmesometruth27

a guy in my band has one of these headstrong amps. it is basically a clone of a vintage princeton and it is just an amazing sounding amp. it better be for base price of $2100, haha

http://headstrongamps.com/lil-king-amp

gimmesometruth27

question about the blues junior.

from what i am reading it sounds like the stock speakers are not that great. it looks like the stock speaker from generation to generation is always different. some reviews say to upgrade to a celestion, some say upgrade to an eminence, some say use the fender speaker that the new generations come with. without getting an amp and buying a few different speakers, how do you know? anybody have any experience with a BJR with one speaker vs the others?

dudeman

gimmesometruth27 said:

question about the blues junior.

from what i am reading it sounds like the stock speakers are not that great. it looks like the stock speaker from generation to generation is always different. some reviews say to upgrade to a celestion, some say upgrade to an eminence, some say use the fender speaker that the new generations come with. without getting an amp and buying a few different speakers, how do you know? anybody have any experience with a BJR with one speaker vs the others?

Speaker selection in the Blues Jr. is definitely all over the place. I've played and worked on many of them with different speakers. For me, Celestions sound best in closed back cabs and not with Fender amps. The "Fender Sound" has a mid scoop that is right where Celestions shine. That's what makes them pair with Marshalls so well.

Stock speakers in the Blues Jr. aren't bad but the small baffle in the cabinet limits them.

If you like what you're hearing in videos of the BJ, it might be perfect for your situation. Most of the things I don't care for with them really only present themselves at louder volumes.

gimmesometruth27

dudeman said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

question about the blues junior.

from what i am reading it sounds like the stock speakers are not that great. it looks like the stock speaker from generation to generation is always different. some reviews say to upgrade to a celestion, some say upgrade to an eminence, some say use the fender speaker that the new generations come with. without getting an amp and buying a few different speakers, how do you know? anybody have any experience with a BJR with one speaker vs the others?

Speaker selection in the Blues Jr. is definitely all over the place. I've played and worked on many of them with different speakers. For me, Celestions sound best to me in closed back cabs and not with Fender amps. The "Fender Sound" has a mid scoop that is right where Celestions shine. That's what makes them pair with Marshalls so well.

Stock speakers in the Blues Jr. aren't bad but the small baffle in the cabinet limits them.

If you like what you're hearing in videos of the BJ, it might be perfect for your situation. Most of the things I don't care for with them really only present themselves at louder volumes.

i love greenbacks with my marshalls. to me there is nothing that beats that tone with an old non master marshall and a greenback cabinet.

i love the fender clean and you can really appreciate the difference between the 1 speaker amp and the 2 speaker amps. 

i have noticed if you really crank a blues junior and hit the fat switch it can sound a little muddy. i think that might be bumping up the mids and it might be clashing with the bass if that is up pretty high. i guess the best thing to do is go to a store that has several different versions. i am trying to avoid going to guitar center because i want to patronize locally owned shops due to the virus. only problem with going to a locally owned store is selection is limited. 

i will try out a few and let you know. it is very cool that you have done some work on these. i am comfortable with doing guitar work but i am not comfortable doing any kind of amp work. 

dudeman

gimmesometruth27 said:

dudeman said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

question about the blues junior.

from what i am reading it sounds like the stock speakers are not that great. it looks like the stock speaker from generation to generation is always different. some reviews say to upgrade to a celestion, some say upgrade to an eminence, some say use the fender speaker that the new generations come with. without getting an amp and buying a few different speakers, how do you know? anybody have any experience with a BJR with one speaker vs the others?

Speaker selection in the Blues Jr. is definitely all over the place. I've played and worked on many of them with different speakers. For me, Celestions sound best to me in closed back cabs and not with Fender amps. The "Fender Sound" has a mid scoop that is right where Celestions shine. That's what makes them pair with Marshalls so well.

Stock speakers in the Blues Jr. aren't bad but the small baffle in the cabinet limits them.

If you like what you're hearing in videos of the BJ, it might be perfect for your situation. Most of the things I don't care for with them really only present themselves at louder volumes.

i love greenbacks with my marshalls. to me there is nothing that beats that tone with an old non master marshall and a greenback cabinet.

i love the fender clean and you can really appreciate the difference between the 1 speaker amp and the 2 speaker amps. 

i have noticed if you really crank a blues junior and hit the fat switch it can sound a little muddy. i think that might be bumping up the mids and it might be clashing with the bass if that is up pretty high. i guess the best thing to do is go to a store that has several different versions. i am trying to avoid going to guitar center because i want to patronize locally owned shops due to the virus. only problem with going to a locally owned store is selection is limited. 

i will try out a few and let you know. it is very cool that you have done some work on these. i am comfortable with doing guitar work but i am not comfortable doing any kind of amp work. 

Agreed. Amps are dangerous and should only be worked on by qualified, experienced people.

Also, good for you for shopping local! The little guys are becoming rare and need all the help they can get. 

I'm interested to hear what you end up with and your thoughts after some quality playing time!

brianlux

Oh, to have my '65 Deluxe Reverb back again.    I had no idea what I was letting go of those many years ago.  Today though, my quest would be for a mid-60's Princeton.  You may call me a dreamer-- go ahead!