Eddie Just Told Me To Tell Ya'll: VOTE FOR RON PAUL!

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  • So now quoting someone is incoherent babble? Nice to know you're level headed.

    And Ledvedder, give me a fucking break. Show me ONE instance of Ron Paul's ACTIONS indicating even an inkling of prejudice.

    You people are more easily manipulated in your thoughts and actions than real life test subjects in some sick government MkUltra-esque experiment.

    just one?

    inkling of prejudice:

    Selections From Ron Paul's Newsletters
    http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=74978161-f730-43a2-91c3-de262573a129

    The Newsletters: Since at least 1978, Ron Paul has attached his name to a series of newsletters--Ron Paul's Freedom Report, Ron Paul Political Report, The Ron Paul Survival Report, and The Ron Paul Investment Letter--that frequently made outrageous statements:

    Race


    "A Special Issue on Racial Terrorism" analyzes the Los Angeles riots of 1992: "Order was only restored in L.A. when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks three days after rioting began. ... What if the checks had never arrived? No doubt the blacks would have fully privatized the welfare state through continued looting. But they were paid off and the violence subsided."

    The November 1990 issue of the Political Report had kind words for David Duke.

    This newsletter describes Martin Luther King Jr. as "a world-class adulterer" who "seduced underage girls and boys" and "replaced the evil of forced segregation with the evil of forced integration."

    The January 1991 edition of the Political Report refers to King as a "world-class philanderer who beat up his paramours" and a "flagrant plagiarist with a phony doctorate."

    A February 1991 newsletter attacks "The X-Rated Martin Luther King."

    An October 1990 edition of the Political Report ridicules black activists, led by Al Sharpton, for demonstrating at the Statue of Liberty in favor of renaming New York City after Martin Luther King. The newsletter suggests that "Welfaria," "Zooville," "Rapetown," "Dirtburg," and "Lazyopolis" would be better alternatives--and says, "Next time, hold that demonstration at a food stamp bureau or a crack house."

    Gays


    In the course of defending homophobic comments by Andy Rooney of CBS, a 1990 newsletter notes that a reporter for a gay magazine "certainly had an axe to grind, and that's not easy with a limp wrist."

    The June 1990 issue of the Political Report says: "I miss the closet. Homosexuals, not to speak of the rest of society, were far better off when social pressure forced them to hide their activities."

    From the August 1990 issue of the Political Report: "Bring Back the Closet!"

    A January 1994 edition of the Survival Report states that "gays in San Francisco do not obey the dictates of good sense," adding: "[T]hese men don't really see a reason to live past their fifties. They are not married, they have no children, and their lives are centered on new sexual partners." Also, "they enjoy the attention and pity that comes with being sick."

    Survivalism and Militias


    The November 1994 issue of the Survival Report celebrates anti-government militias.

    The January 1995 issue of the Survival Report--released just three months before the Oklahoma City bombing--cites an anti-government militia's advice to other militias, including, "Don't fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war, let it begin here."

    The October 1992 issue of the Political Report paraphrases an "ex-cop" who offers this strategy for protecting against "urban youth": "If you have to use a gun on a youth, you should leave the scene immediately, disposing of the wiped off gun as soon as possible. Such a gun cannot, of course, be registered to you, but one bought privately (through the classifieds, for example)."

    Conspiracies


    This 1978 newsletter says the Trilateral Commission is "no longer known only by those who are knowledgeable about international conspiracies, but is routinely mentioned in the daily news."

    A 1986 newsletter names Jeane Kirkpatrick and George Will as "two of our enemies" and notes their membership in the Trilateral Commission.

    In an undated solicitation letter for The Ron Paul Investment Letter and the Ron Paul Political Report, Paul writes: "I've been told not to talk, but these stooges don't scare me. Threats or no threats, I've laid bare the coming race war in our big cities. The federal-homosexual cover-up on AIDS (my training as a physician helps me see through this one.) The Bohemian Grove--perverted, pagan playground of the powerful. Skull & Bones: the demonic fraternity that includes George Bush and leftist Senator John Kerry, Congress's Mr. New Money. The Israeli lobby, which plays Congress like a cheap harmonica."

    Middle East


    A 1989 newsletter compares Salman Rushdie to Ernst Zundel, a Canadian Holocaust-denier.


    The March 1987 issue of The Ron Paul Investment Letter calls Israel "an aggressive, national socialist state."

    Other Documents: Paul has had a long association with the Ludwig von Mises Institute, a libertarian think tank based in Auburn, Alabama. The think tank was founded by Lew Rockwell, who served as Paul's congressional chief of staff from 1978 to 1982.


    This March 1995 letter from Lew Rockwell advertises the Mises Institute's upcoming conference on secession (at which Paul spoke): "We'll explore what causes [secession] and how to promote it."

    An advertisement for the Mises Institute's 1995 secession conference--to be held in Charleston, "hotbed of America's two great secessions, against Britain and D.C."




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  • godpt3 wrote:
    Of which I'm sure you were a participant. What other possible explanation for your clear psychosis could there be?

    So you admit that the state when given power will use it to the detriment of the people?

    Seems people on here want to TRUST OUR GOVENRMENT, when the very message of our founding fathers was DO NOT TRUST GOVERNMENT!

    Huh.
    Funny how liberty in this country bred so much complacency that now liberty itself is in peril.
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  • godpt3godpt3 Posts: 1,020
    So you admit that the state when given power will use it to the detriment of the people?

    Seems people on here want to TRUST OUR GOVENRMENT, when the very message of our founding fathers was DO NOT TRUST GOVERNMENT!

    Huh.
    Funny how liberty in this country bred so much complacency that now liberty itself is in peril.


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  • AJ talking to JB right now.

    Check it out.
    Taking about electing Constitutional Candidates AFTER this election.

    :D
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  • 4Powers204Powers20 Posts: 1,227
    Doesnt Ron Paul want to give states more power to decide thier own laws? Like same sex marriage. He thinks it should be up to the state whether it should be a legal marriage. So under his plan a couple could go to the next state to get married then go home and it wouldnt be recognized. I just think that is dumb. it doesnt matter though because he has NO shot.


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  • drew0drew0 Posts: 943
    Um, don't ruin my image of Ed. He is not a PaulBot.
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  • drew0 wrote:
    Um, don't ruin my image of Ed. He is not a PaulBot.

    I believe the correct term is "Paultard"
  • a5pja5pj Posts: 3,896
    isn't this what the moving train section is for?
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  • 4Powers20 wrote:
    Doesnt Ron Paul want to give states more power to decide thier own laws? Like same sex marriage. He thinks it should be up to the state whether it should be a legal marriage. So under his plan a couple could go to the next state to get married then go home and it wouldnt be recognized. I just think that is dumb. it doesnt matter though because he has NO shot.

    If you want to give homosexuals the national right to marry, then you need to pass a constitutional ammendment.

    Jessie Benton 5 minutes ago: "Washington State could be HUGE for Ron Paul" ... guess that's Eddie and Jill? :D

    Look 420, I'm as SOCIALY liberal as the next guy. I have no problems with homosexuality or black people, all though i think abortion is a sticky topic, because it potentialy violates the constiutional "right to life" of the unborn but LIVING ...

    Ron Paul just wants us to follow the fucking constitution.
    He thinks there should be NO exceptions to that, because our government is PROVING that it will take an inch and make it a mile quicker than you can say "inflation" ...

    So ... if you want to change something to protect OR deny someone rights at the federal level when they are currently reserved to the state and "the people", YOU NEED TO AMMEND THE CONSTITUTION.

    Personaly i think the government, at ALL levels, should GET ITS ASS OUT OF THE MARRIAGE ISSUE.

    "marriage" is a RELIGIOUS institution, wether you like it or not.

    If states want to issue partnership certificates or whatever to non religious folks (gay or otherwise), then go ahead ...

    but once again, the government got involved over GENETIC concerns, because they did not want COUSINS marying ... now we are arguing wether they should regulate Gay marriage by either sanctioning it or baning it?

    GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK.

    GET OUT OF MY LIFE.
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  • drew0 wrote:
    Um, don't ruin my image of Ed. He is not a PaulBot.

    No but i've heard some other things about him that may ruin your image of him.

    But i'd get the ban and the lock on my thread for that.

    :rolleyes:

    Lets just say he is every bit the celebirty "personality" you think he isn't.
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  • I believe the correct term is "Paultard"

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  • No but i've heard some other things about him that may ruin your image of him.

    But i'd get the ban and the lock on my thread for that.

    :rolleyes:

    Lets just say he is every bit the celebirty "personality" you think he isn't.

    ooooooooooooooooh....

    Eddie can't have Hollywood friends....oooooooooooooh
  • so i guess if rupaul gets elected i'm not supposed to trust him?

    gotcha.

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  • 4Powers204Powers20 Posts: 1,227
    marraige is a government issue. I dont like it, but it is. Taxes are "easier" on married couples. So it is unfair to not allow same sex marriages if you dont offer an alternative that would give them the same rights as married couples.


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  • 4Powers20 wrote:
    offer an alternative that would give them the same rights as married couples.

    bingo.

    And stop their regulation of RELIGION in the first place.

    Why are courts offering "religious" services anyhow?

    Seperation of church and state, anyone?

    And yes, i know that non-religious folk get married, and i think that is part of the problem. The public norm is out of step with historical reality. And they are unwittingly supporting the government's overstepping of its constitutional boundary.

    And LEDVETTER, your inbox is full, or i'd reply PM to you.
    You don't have any fucking clue what i'm talking about.
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  • 4Powers204Powers20 Posts: 1,227
    bingo.

    And stop their regulation of RELIGION in the first place.

    Why are courts offering "religious" services anyhow?

    Seperation of church and state, anyone?

    And yes, i know that non-religious folk get married, and i think that is part of the problem. The public norm is out of step with historical reality. And they are unwittingly supporting the government's overstepping of its constitutional boundary.

    .

    I am reading you right, you dont want the government to recognize marriage?


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  • 4Powers20 wrote:
    I am reading you right, you dont want the government to recognize marriage?

    Why should the government be involved in religion?
    Isn't it actualy expressly forbid of them?

    Their response was to try and secularize marriage.
    Which is evil genius.

    Why is sanctioning gay marriage any different than Bush wanting to ammend the constitution to prevent it?

    Shouldn't the government just STAY OUT OF IT?
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  • A lot of people argue that the president is a figure head and can't accomplish much anyway. So why not let the visual of the next president have a big impact around the world?

    If you're a kid growing up in the Middle East, which potential president's face will have the biggest and most positive affect when it appears on TV...???

    a) another white, conservative male.
    b) a likable mixed-race guy whose middle name is Hussein.

    If we vote for b) I think the world will instantly become a better place. America will no longer be viewed worldwide as all-white, all-NeoCon, all the time.

    Finally, please do not vote for any candidate for DOES NOT believe in evolution. Creationist = a retard.
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  • memememe Posts: 4,695
    The dollar is DYING.
    FAST!

    I don't give a fuck about the dollar. I care about the people who are dying because they don't have health insurance.
    ... and the will to show I will always be better than before.
  • meme wrote:
    I don't give a fuck about the dollar. I care about the people who are dying because they don't have health insurance.

    excuse me, but that is the most ignorant thing i have ever heard.

    Ask your self this, if your poor little uninsured got a THIRTY PERCENT RAISE, would they be able to afford some fucking insurance?

    The answer is most probably, yes.
    If not, maybe they need to look at their own fucking budgets and figure out why they keep blowing it.

    The primary reason people can't afford health insurance is because the cost of living (INFLATION, 30% in five years) has far outpaced raises.

    We are already on track for at LEAST another 5% loss of dollar value THIS year. Adding universal healthcare to that burden will probably DOUBLE that.

    When the government spends money it doesn't have, it just PRINTS MORE. That is inflation.

    If you don't understand that, you probably don't understand why this country is so fucking fucked right now.

    And all you goofballs that want the government to spend more money it doesn't have, or take more money from people who you already claim don't have enough anyhow ... are frankly ridiculous.

    BTW, unlike what Hillary said, health insurance is NOT a "right". And having the government subsidise it is just stupid.
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  • 4Powers204Powers20 Posts: 1,227
    EvilRabbit wrote:
    A lot of people argue that the president is a figure head and can't accomplish much anyway. So why not let the visual of the next president have a big impact around the world?

    If you're a kid growing up in the Middle East, which potential president's face will have the biggest and most positive affect when it appears on TV...???

    a) another white, conservative male.
    b) a likable mixed-race guy whose middle name is Hussein.

    If we vote for b) I think the world will instantly become a better place. America will no longer be viewed worldwide as all-white, all-NeoCon, all the time.

    Finally, please do not vote for any candidate for DOES NOT believe in evolution. Creationist = a retard.

    So I should vote for who I think someone from another country would like to see in office?

    The world will instantly be a better place? Really? So by voting for someone with a different skin color is going to make everything better. That is pretty racist.
    How about voting for the candidate you feel better represents your view on key issues? Or should I vote for the person who has better hair or is taller or some other random variable?


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  • EvilRabbit wrote:
    A lot of people argue that the president is a figure head and can't accomplish much anyway. So why not let the visual of the next president have a big impact around the world?

    If you're a kid growing up in the Middle East, which potential president's face will have the biggest and most positive affect when it appears on TV...???

    a) another white, conservative male.
    b) a likable mixed-race guy whose middle name is Hussein.

    If we vote for b) I think the world will instantly become a better place. America will no longer be viewed worldwide as all-white, all-NeoCon, all the time.

    Finally, please do not vote for any candidate for DOES NOT believe in evolution. Creationist = a retard.

    SO you'd rather vote for someone because he is black, but doesn't understand why our country is about to FALL HARD (watch the dollar fall this year, guaranteed, then PM me and let me know how you feel about Obama) ... than vote for a white guy who happens to not accept the DOGMA of scientific "theory" but DOES understand how to fix our country?

    One issue voters are the retards.
    Especialy ones who are going to vote for the leader of the free world based on the color of their skin, or their personal religious views, and not cold hard facts.

    I would think people on here would be a little more aware of just how FUCKED the economy is right now, and how that is 100% related to the dollar problem (namely, its fucked because of fiat currency) ... and how some black man who talks about "change" is not gonna fix that problem. He will make it worse through MASSIVE INFLATION to pay for some bullshit healthcare plan that totaly ignores how freemarkets fucking work.
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  • 4Powers204Powers20 Posts: 1,227
    SO you'd rather vote for someone because he is black, but doesn't understand why our country is about to FALL HARD (watch the dollar fall this year, guaranteed, then PM me and let me know how you feel about Obama) ... than vote for a white guy who happens to not accept the DOGMA of scientific "theory" but DOES understand how to fix our country?

    One issue voters are the retards.
    Especialy ones who are going to vote for the leader of the free world based on the color of their skin, or their personal religious views, and not cold hard facts.

    I would think people on here would be a little more aware of just how FUCKED the economy is right now, and how that is 100% related to the dollar problem (namely, its fucked because of fiat currency) ... and how some black man who talks about "change" is not gonna fix that problem. He will make it worse through MASSIVE INFLATION to pay for some bullshit healthcare plan that totaly ignores how freemarkets fucking work.


    ron paul doenst believe in evolution. I dont care what his stance is on any issue. If he doesnt recognize evolution, he should keep his thoughts to himself.


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  • 4Powers20 wrote:
    ron paul doenst believe in evolution. I dont care what his stance is on any issue. If he doesnt recognize evolution, he should keep his thoughts to himself.

    Why?

    He also has no intentions of telling you what to believe.
    Which i find to be pretty damn admirable.
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  • even Darwin admits Evolution is a lie

    research it before you talk outta your ass
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  • memememe Posts: 4,695
    BTW, unlike what Hillary said, health insurance is NOT a "right". And having the government subsidise it is just stupid.

    Just because someone disagrees with you, it doesn't mean they are ignorant or stupid.
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  • DavanitaDavanita Posts: 854
    even Darwin admits Evolution is a lie

    research it before you talk outta your ass

    oh i see.... Darwin said it so it must be true.


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  • Davanita wrote:
    oh i see.... Darwin said it so it must be true.


    :rolleyes:

    He said Evolution was true once upon a time and your dumb ass believed it, didn't you?
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  • meme wrote:
    Just because someone disagrees with you, it doesn't mean they are ignorant or stupid.

    Subsidization IS stupid, ask any economist what it does to the market place.

    Do you know how many farmers have lost their farms since farm subsization began? Here is some sobering analysis. He totaly failed to implement any of what he spoke about, but ever hear Reagan speak?

    And "i don't care about the dollar" IS ignorant.
    Sorry.
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  • I shouldn't even entertain some of you [insert derogatory term] with a response.

    My comment about Barack's visual affect on the rest of the world is IN ADDITION to the fact that IMO he'll also make a good leader and will fix many of this nation's problems. It isn't only about skin color. If you think it is, punch yourself in the face for being dumb.

    As for Darwin, he had some unanswered questions about evolution, hence his doubts, but those have since been answered. For example, he wasn't sure how the eyeball evolved but science has figured that out. And if anyone on here is a creationist and they'd need enlightening on the term irreducable complexity, I'd be happy to bring you out of the dark ages. If you still don't believe in evolution, in the year 2008, I sincerely pity you and you should also punch yourself in the face for being dumb.
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