Arby's has tasty roast beef,
there's one in the Manhattan Mall
at the risk of thread integrity, so do you have nose bleed seats too??
arby's is shut down, they're renovating the whole mall. and back to the topic i have section 313, which is fine.
Reading 2004
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016 Fenway 2, 2018 MSG 2022 St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
should have had to put in a 10c number as the password.... then have it checked against tix that were already sold to those members...
would have been more work, but its really a way that 10c members that already got tix, dont get additional ones... and keeps scalpers out of the loop as well.
I totally agree! I absolutely think you should have had to submit your membership # in order to purchase... it would have stopped scalpers and all the non-members who got the password from other sites... unfortunately 10c don't have this sort of power over Ticketmaster.
Glaciers melting in the dead of night and the superstars sucked into the supermassive.
and they are? Since when? D'oh. I love that place. they give out little food samples in the food court.
night one and a since a few weeks ago.
Reading 2004
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016 Fenway 2, 2018 MSG 2022 St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
Get_right, am I wrong if I say that the Ten Club got us used to better seats in the Garden? So I don't agree with your statement 'no one knows how seats are distributed'. Riot Act tour all fan club seats (or 90%) were floor seats.
you are not wrong about that, but I will let you know after I pick up my 10C seats if they are better this year. They should be much better in theory.
But things happen to be VERY different in the concert industry 5 years later.
A lot more 10C members after avocado and a lot fewer tickets available due to TMs need to try and capture the secondary ticket market and every nickel from consumers.
I was not on the floor by the way for 03 and I think most of the loge sections were 10C members in 03 as well-remember there were a LOT of 10c fans there those nights. Different story this time around.
and as far as knowledge of allocations go, I do believe there is only a small group of people that broker the concert who know exactly what the ticket allocations are. The promoter, the 10C, the garden and TM. Perhaps the record label if concert grosses are part of a contract (not sure if J records has that kind of deal with PJ-I doubt it)
what I meant by that was that none of us here REALLY know the facts about it. We have our own beliefs based upon what we have experienced.
what I meant by that was that none of us here REALLY know the facts about it. We have our own beliefs based upon what we have experienced.
Agreed.
Album sales went down, TM greedyness went up, Bands make money only from concerts.
Madonna signed a deal w/ Livenation based on concerts, not on albums sales.
I still think that someone could sue TM based on the fact that they make tickets available to scalpers before they are available to the general public.
Scalpers sellling online print the tickets by themselves the day they are sold, and no one says anything.
Agreed.
Album sales went down, TM greedyness went up, Bands make money only from concerts.
Madonna signed a deal w/ Livenation based on concerts, not on albums sales.
I still think that someone could sue TM based on the fact that they make tickets available to scalpers before they are available to the general public.
Scalpers sellling online print the tickets by themselves the day they are sold, and no one says anything.
c my response in the other thread.
But scalpers get tix in a variety of ways.
Most of them directly from people that are guaranteed access to tickets no matter what. They have standing orders-gimme 10 for the rangers, 10 for the foos, and 10 for the big east tourney, that kind of thing-which they flip to brokers.
I personally know two people that have that kind of access and could make it profitable if they really wanted to atake advantage of it. Now if 1000 people around the country with that kind of access truly exploited it, TM would have a lot less to sell. Thats is a big part of what is happening with TM. But see my other thread.
FYI-no beef with you, just a healthy exchange of ideas regarding this whole process IMHO
thing is, if 10c only got 2000 for the 10c sale, and the TM presale was really the next best seats..then there should have been 100s and 200s nearer the stage no? (all the ones I've seen mentioned are right opposite the stage). mathematically speaking.
even the scalpers don't seem to have got any better (looking briefly at the 20 million already on eBay :mad: ).
so either 10c had more than 2000, or TM withheld better seats than the ones that were just sold.
I mean looks that way.
just tried calling Ticketmaster twice to discuss this issue of "best available seats." I recieved an email that told me that the seats would be next best behind orig. 10c seats. I am in the last row of the 300 section, hardly the best seats still available. Twice they were rude to me while discussing this matter and once the supervisor even hung up on me. I was on my best behavior as yelling at people on the phone is not my style nor effective. They basically told me "tough luck" not all tickets are allocated for a presale. When I brought up my received email they could give a shit.
here is what my email said:
This pre-sale will be conducted by Ticketmaster.com, not the Ten Club,
and the seats will not be allocated by seniority, but will be first
come, first serve - while supplies last. The seat locations will be the
next best seats behind the Ten Club. Two tickets per member/per show.
Ticket sales are limited.
next best seats? I got sec 310 row O (that's the last row of the section)
I am sure that someone tomorrow will get a better seat then me.
don't get me wrong I am excited to be going but I am frustrated with crappy business practices. I say Pearl Jam should boycott ticketmaster again.
don't get me wrong I am excited to be going but I am frustrated with crappy business practices. I say Pearl Jam should boycott ticketmaster again.
I'm with you (well, in section 314). I honestly don't think it's ticketmaster's fault. 10c simply should have clarified that this was a regular presale, where notoriously there are a variety of seats available, and not "next best after 10c".
... and the will to show I will always be better than before.
I'm with you (well, in section 314). I honestly don't think it's ticketmaster's fault. 10c simply should have clarified that this was a regular presale, where notoriously there are a variety of seats available, and not "next best after 10c".
That is a good point. I assumed the ten club was giving us the best info it had up to that point,as they usually do in my experience, hence I put the blame on ticketmaster for misleading all of us.
I am excited to be there nonetheless. PJ at MSG should be hard to fuck up even from the nosebleeds. After all I am the bloodpisser!!!
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arby's is shut down, they're renovating the whole mall. and back to the topic i have section 313, which is fine.
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
Fenway 2, 2018
MSG 2022
St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
cool
Night 1 or 2?
and they are? Since when? D'oh. I love that place. they give out little food samples in the food court.
"Sometimes life should be consumed in measured doses"
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6/25/08
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and Metsy!
I totally agree! I absolutely think you should have had to submit your membership # in order to purchase... it would have stopped scalpers and all the non-members who got the password from other sites... unfortunately 10c don't have this sort of power over Ticketmaster.
night one and a since a few weeks ago.
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
Fenway 2, 2018
MSG 2022
St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
you are not wrong about that, but I will let you know after I pick up my 10C seats if they are better this year. They should be much better in theory.
But things happen to be VERY different in the concert industry 5 years later.
A lot more 10C members after avocado and a lot fewer tickets available due to TMs need to try and capture the secondary ticket market and every nickel from consumers.
I was not on the floor by the way for 03 and I think most of the loge sections were 10C members in 03 as well-remember there were a LOT of 10c fans there those nights. Different story this time around.
and as far as knowledge of allocations go, I do believe there is only a small group of people that broker the concert who know exactly what the ticket allocations are. The promoter, the 10C, the garden and TM. Perhaps the record label if concert grosses are part of a contract (not sure if J records has that kind of deal with PJ-I doubt it)
what I meant by that was that none of us here REALLY know the facts about it. We have our own beliefs based upon what we have experienced.
Agreed.
Album sales went down, TM greedyness went up, Bands make money only from concerts.
Madonna signed a deal w/ Livenation based on concerts, not on albums sales.
I still think that someone could sue TM based on the fact that they make tickets available to scalpers before they are available to the general public.
Scalpers sellling online print the tickets by themselves the day they are sold, and no one says anything.
c my response in the other thread.
But scalpers get tix in a variety of ways.
Most of them directly from people that are guaranteed access to tickets no matter what. They have standing orders-gimme 10 for the rangers, 10 for the foos, and 10 for the big east tourney, that kind of thing-which they flip to brokers.
I personally know two people that have that kind of access and could make it profitable if they really wanted to atake advantage of it. Now if 1000 people around the country with that kind of access truly exploited it, TM would have a lot less to sell. Thats is a big part of what is happening with TM. But see my other thread.
FYI-no beef with you, just a healthy exchange of ideas regarding this whole process IMHO
just tried calling Ticketmaster twice to discuss this issue of "best available seats." I recieved an email that told me that the seats would be next best behind orig. 10c seats. I am in the last row of the 300 section, hardly the best seats still available. Twice they were rude to me while discussing this matter and once the supervisor even hung up on me. I was on my best behavior as yelling at people on the phone is not my style nor effective. They basically told me "tough luck" not all tickets are allocated for a presale. When I brought up my received email they could give a shit.
here is what my email said:
This pre-sale will be conducted by Ticketmaster.com, not the Ten Club,
and the seats will not be allocated by seniority, but will be first
come, first serve - while supplies last. The seat locations will be the
next best seats behind the Ten Club. Two tickets per member/per show.
Ticket sales are limited.
next best seats? I got sec 310 row O (that's the last row of the section)
I am sure that someone tomorrow will get a better seat then me.
don't get me wrong I am excited to be going but I am frustrated with crappy business practices. I say Pearl Jam should boycott ticketmaster again.
yup...there will definitely be better seats tomorrow. you didn't HAVE to buy them...you should have waited. oh, well...live and learn.
Paulie "Walnuts" Gualtieri
I'm with you (well, in section 314). I honestly don't think it's ticketmaster's fault. 10c simply should have clarified that this was a regular presale, where notoriously there are a variety of seats available, and not "next best after 10c".
That is a good point. I assumed the ten club was giving us the best info it had up to that point,as they usually do in my experience, hence I put the blame on ticketmaster for misleading all of us.
I am excited to be there nonetheless. PJ at MSG should be hard to fuck up even from the nosebleeds. After all I am the bloodpisser!!!