Mayor Zohran Mamdani and NYC

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Posts: 41,115
    edited January 3
    1. it's pretty much consensus that Israel's government is committing genocide. criticizing their government does not equal antisemitism. AGAIN https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/09/israel-has-committed-genocide-gaza-strip-un-commission-finds
    2. hal is american. 
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,710
    The man hard at work. Uh oh, he’s focused on a few tax returns


    wow


    Yet you continually  accept or keep quiet about hateful rhetoric like “ Israel, mind your own damn business and go back to your genocide of the Palestinians.”
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    edited January 3
    The man hard at work. Uh oh, he’s focused on a few tax returns

    * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    Do you really want to go down this path, Shadow Quoter? 


    What, can’t be happy with your non stop antisemitic attacks of genocide in every topic like that Jan 2 post above? Yeah, that’s not creating an abusive and harmful atmosphere …they left the 7,000th version of the Levant tab open for you to spam that crap but it’s clearly not enough to satisfy the encouragement of hatred in every topic!



     Just pay your fair share when you come to any potential shows here and all will be good. Love the threats pal! Or maybe he is figuring out a way to tax AI, as in Human to Machine?

    * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    It’s awesome that you support US tax dollars to build subsidized housing in Israel but not in your presumed home state/city. How hypocritical and dishonest of you to condemn The Bus Driver but not the CCOOTWH administration or Bibi for ripping off US tax payers.

    Enjoy the genocide and the fall of NYC.

    And to reiterate, fuck genocide and fuck Israel.

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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,710
    The man hard at work. Uh oh, he’s focused on a few tax returns

    * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    Do you really want to go down this path, Shadow Quoter? 


    What, can’t be happy with your non stop antisemitic attacks of genocide in every topic like that Jan 2 post above? Yeah, that’s not creating an abusive and harmful atmosphere …they left the 7,000th version of the Levant tab open for you to spam that crap but it’s clearly not enough to satisfy the encouragement of hatred in every topic!



     Just pay your fair share when you come to any potential shows here and all will be good. Love the threats pal! Or maybe he is figuring out a way to tax AI, as in Human to Machine?

    * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    It’s awesome that you support US tax dollars to build subsidized housing in Israel but not in your presumed home state/city. How hypocritical and dishonest of you to condemn The Bus Driver but not the CCOOTWH administration or Bibi for ripping off US tax payers.

    Enjoy the genocide and the fall of NYC.

    And to reiterate, fuck genocide and fuck Israel.




    You have zero idea what I support in the mid east, other than both sides committed significant acts of war. Congrats on whatever form of bribery you must be participating in to allow for that continued public expression of hatred and your propagation of continued war.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    The man hard at work. Uh oh, he’s focused on a few tax returns

    * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    Do you really want to go down this path, Shadow Quoter? 


    What, can’t be happy with your non stop antisemitic attacks of genocide in every topic like that Jan 2 post above? Yeah, that’s not creating an abusive and harmful atmosphere …they left the 7,000th version of the Levant tab open for you to spam that crap but it’s clearly not enough to satisfy the encouragement of hatred in every topic!



     Just pay your fair share when you come to any potential shows here and all will be good. Love the threats pal! Or maybe he is figuring out a way to tax AI, as in Human to Machine?

    * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    It’s awesome that you support US tax dollars to build subsidized housing in Israel but not in your presumed home state/city. How hypocritical and dishonest of you to condemn The Bus Driver but not the CCOOTWH administration or Bibi for ripping off US tax payers.

    Enjoy the genocide and the fall of NYC.

    And to reiterate, fuck genocide and fuck Israel.




    You have zero idea what I support in the mid east, other than both sides committed significant acts of war. Congrats on whatever form of bribery you must be participating in to allow for that continued public expression of hatred and your propagation of continued war.

    * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    Bribery? More dishonesty from you. As long as the day.

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  • static111
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    The man hard at work. Uh oh, he’s focused on a few tax returns

    * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    Do you really want to go down this path, Shadow Quoter? 


    What, can’t be happy with your non stop antisemitic attacks of genocide in every topic like that Jan 2 post above? Yeah, that’s not creating an abusive and harmful atmosphere …they left the 7,000th version of the Levant tab open for you to spam that crap but it’s clearly not enough to satisfy the encouragement of hatred in every topic!



     Just pay your fair share when you come to any potential shows here and all will be good. Love the threats pal! Or maybe he is figuring out a way to tax AI, as in Human to Machine?
    What definition of anti semitism are you using.  You keep using that word, but all I have seen is criticism of Israel and bibi 
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  • static111 said:
    The man hard at work. Uh oh, he’s focused on a few tax returns

    * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    Do you really want to go down this path, Shadow Quoter? 


    What, can’t be happy with your non stop antisemitic attacks of genocide in every topic like that Jan 2 post above? Yeah, that’s not creating an abusive and harmful atmosphere …they left the 7,000th version of the Levant tab open for you to spam that crap but it’s clearly not enough to satisfy the encouragement of hatred in every topic!



     Just pay your fair share when you come to any potential shows here and all will be good. Love the threats pal! Or maybe he is figuring out a way to tax AI, as in Human to Machine?
    What definition of anti semitism are you using.  You keep using that word, but all I have seen is criticism of Israel and bibi 
    It’s all pro-genociders have. 
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,981
    static111 said:
    The man hard at work. Uh oh, he’s focused on a few tax returns

    * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    Do you really want to go down this path, Shadow Quoter? 


    What, can’t be happy with your non stop antisemitic attacks of genocide in every topic like that Jan 2 post above? Yeah, that’s not creating an abusive and harmful atmosphere …they left the 7,000th version of the Levant tab open for you to spam that crap but it’s clearly not enough to satisfy the encouragement of hatred in every topic!



     Just pay your fair share when you come to any potential shows here and all will be good. Love the threats pal! Or maybe he is figuring out a way to tax AI, as in Human to Machine?
    What definition of anti semitism are you using.  You keep using that word, but all I have seen is criticism of Israel and bibi 
    It’s all pro-genociders have. 

    * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    That, and jettisoning the 1st Amendment. Cancel culture at its finest.

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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,710
    static111 said:
    The man hard at work. Uh oh, he’s focused on a few tax returns

    * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    Do you really want to go down this path, Shadow Quoter? 


    What, can’t be happy with your non stop antisemitic attacks of genocide in every topic like that Jan 2 post above? Yeah, that’s not creating an abusive and harmful atmosphere …they left the 7,000th version of the Levant tab open for you to spam that crap but it’s clearly not enough to satisfy the encouragement of hatred in every topic!



     Just pay your fair share when you come to any potential shows here and all will be good. Love the threats pal! Or maybe he is figuring out a way to tax AI, as in Human to Machine?
    What definition of anti semitism are you using.  You keep using that word, but all I have seen is criticism of Israel and bibi 
    It’s all pro-genociders have. 

    Lying is all the liars have.

  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,710
    edited January 4
    static111 said:
    The man hard at work. Uh oh, he’s focused on a few tax returns

    * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    Do you really want to go down this path, Shadow Quoter? 


    What, can’t be happy with your non stop antisemitic attacks of genocide in every topic like that Jan 2 post above? Yeah, that’s not creating an abusive and harmful atmosphere …they left the 7,000th version of the Levant tab open for you to spam that crap but it’s clearly not enough to satisfy the encouragement of hatred in every topic!



     Just pay your fair share when you come to any potential shows here and all will be good. Love the threats pal! Or maybe he is figuring out a way to tax AI, as in Human to Machine?
    What definition of anti semitism are you using.  You keep using that word, but all I have seen is criticism of Israel and bibi 

    Blaming one country for a war (which has obviously been caused by two willing partners) which happens to be a religious state, which is undeniably causing a rise in hatred and violence against people of that faith around the world, has been undeniable in recent years. Are there large terrorist attacks against Russians in North America? 

    that this needs to be explained to some is an overwhelming example of this bigotry.

    That he keeps flooding every topic with his bukksh!t of hatred, when we’ve been asked repeatedly not to do that, is yet another example of this bias.

     

  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,710

    Criticism of the UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry (COI) on the Occupied Palestinian Territory primarily centers on the alleged lack of impartiality of its members, the nature of its mandate, and specific public statements that have been condemned as antisemitic.  

    Here are the key examples of bias frequently cited by critics, including member states like Israel, the U.S., and Germany:

    1. Antisemitic Rhetoric by Commission Members

    The most high-profile allegations of bias stem from public comments made by the commissioners themselves:

    • Miloon Kothari: In a 2022 interview, Kothari claimed that social media is "controlled largely by the Jewish lobby" and questioned why Israel was even a member of the UN. These comments were widely condemned by the U.S., UK, and EU as echoing "age-old antisemitic tropes."  

    • Chris Sidoti: Sidoti was criticized for dismissing accusations of antisemitism against the commission by stating they were "thrown around like rice at a wedding."  

    • Navi Pillay (Chair): Pillay has been criticized for defending Kothari’s remarks rather than condemning them, and for her long history of public activism against Israel (including calling it an "Apartheid state") prior to her appointment, which critics argue violates UN requirements for "impartiality and objectivity."  

    2. An "Open-Ended" and Unprecedented Mandate

    Unlike most UN fact-finding missions, which have a specific timeframe or focus on a single event, this COI has a perpetual, open-ended mandate.  

    • Scope: It is tasked with investigating "all underlying root causes" of the conflict, including "systematic discrimination."  

    • Criticism: Critics argue this "permanent" nature is designed to keep Israel under constant investigation indefinitely, a status not applied to any other UN member state, suggesting a "selective" and "politicized" focus.  

    3. Allegations of a Pre-Determined Outcome

    Critics argue that the commission’s methodology and reporting reflect a "guilty until proven innocent" approach toward Israel:

    • Selective Evidence: Israeli officials have described the reports as "distorted and false," claiming they rely heavily on accounts from "Hamas proxies" while minimizing or omitting Israeli security concerns or the actions of Palestinian armed groups.

    • Legal Framing: The commission has been accused of mischaracterizing international law to deprive Israel of its right to self-defense, particularly in its findings regarding the 2021 and 2023 conflicts.  

  • Lerxst1992
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    Federico Villegas, the President of the UNHRC at the time of Miloon Kothari’s 2022 comments, wrote a formal letter to the Commission. He stated that Kothari’s remarks "could reasonably be interpreted as stigmatization of the Jewish people," which he noted is at the heart of antisemitism.

    • Request for Clarification: Villegas took the unusual step of asking the Commission Chair (Navi Pillay) to clarify the remarks, emphasizing that UN investigators must maintain the highest standards of "impartiality and objectivity."

    3. Responses from UN Leadership

    The response from the highest levels of the UN was one of categorical rejection of the rhetoric used:

    • Secretary-General António Guterres: Through his spokesperson, Guterres stated there is "no room for antisemitism in the work of the UN" and reaffirmed that Israel is "unquestionably a Member State" with the same rights as all others.

    • High Commissioner for Human Rights: Michelle Bachelet (and later Volker Türk) have consistently emphasized that any form of hate speech or antisemitic tropes is unacceptable within UN mechanisms.


  • Lerxst1992
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    The commissioners were selected despite having clear, pre-existing public stances that prejudged the issues they were tasked to investigate.  

    • Navi Pillay’s Prior Activism: Before being appointed Chair, Pillay had lobbied governments to "Sanction Apartheid Israel." Critics argue this violated UN rules requiring experts to be free of any perception of bias.  

    • Refusal to Recuse: In 2022, the NGO UN Watch filed a formal 30-page legal brief requesting Pillay’s recusal based on her prior statements. The UNHRC denied the request, which critics cite as proof of an institutional "rigged" process.  

    2. Disproportionate Focus on Jewish "Illegalities"

    Critics point to the Commission’s reporting style as evidence of a double standard in how it treats Jewish vs. non-Jewish presence in the region:

    • The "Judea and Samaria" Erasure: In its 2024 and 2025 reports, the Commission has been accused of using language that delegitimizes any Jewish historical or legal connection to the land. Reports frequently characterize Jewish presence in the West Bank solely as "settler-colonialism" while omitting historical context regarding the Jewish people's indigeneity to the region.

    • Natural Resource Accusations: Recent reports (2024) have accused the "Jewish state" of "stealing natural resources," language that critics argue echoes historical antisemitic tropes about Jewish economic exploitation.  

    3. Legal "Lawfare" and the Genocide Finding

    In September 2025, the Commission released a landmark report concluding that Israel was responsible for genocide in Gaza.  

    • The "Only Reasonable Inference" Standard: Critics, including legal scholars from the U.S. and Germany, argued the Commission lowered the legal bar for "intent" to reach a pre-determined conclusion.

    • Inversion of Intent: Critics claim the Commission focused almost exclusively on the "incitement" of Israeli officials while downplaying the explicit genocidal charter and actions of Hamas on October 7, 2023, creating an "asymmetrical" moral and legal framework.

    4. Structural "Exceptionalism"

    Bias is often cited not just in words, but in the unique administrative setup of this specific Commission:

    • The "Eternal" Mandate: This is the only UN commission in history with no expiration date. Critics argue this creates a permanent "inquisition" specifically for the world's only Jewish state, a level of scrutiny not applied to any other conflict zone (e.g., Syria, South Sudan, or Ukraine).  

    • Budgetary Disparity: The Commission’s budget is significantly higher than other fact-finding missions. In 2024, the U.S. and Israel led a campaign to slash its budget, calling it a "waste of resources" dedicated to a "one-sided narrative."


  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,710

    The commissioners were selected despite having clear, pre-existing public stances that prejudged the issues they were tasked to investigate.  

    • Navi Pillay’s Prior Activism: Before being appointed Chair, Pillay had lobbied governments to "Sanction Apartheid Israel." Critics argue this violated UN rules requiring experts to be free of any perception of bias.  

    • Refusal to Recuse: In 2022, the NGO UN Watch filed a formal 30-page legal brief requesting Pillay’s recusal based on her prior statements. The UNHRC denied the request, which critics cite as proof of an institutional "rigged" process.  

    2. Disproportionate Focus on Jewish "Illegalities"

    Critics point to the Commission’s reporting style as evidence of a double standard in how it treats Jewish vs. non-Jewish presence in the region:

    • The "Judea and Samaria" Erasure: In its 2024 and 2025 reports, the Commission has been accused of using language that delegitimizes any Jewish historical or legal connection to the land. Reports frequently characterize Jewish presence in the West Bank solely as "settler-colonialism" while omitting historical context regarding the Jewish people's indigeneity to the region.

    • Natural Resource Accusations: Recent reports (2024) have accused the "Jewish state" of "stealing natural resources," language that critics argue echoes historical antisemitic tropes about Jewish economic exploitation.  

    3. Legal "Lawfare" and the Genocide Finding

    In September 2025, the Commission released a landmark report concluding that Israel was responsible for genocide in Gaza.  

    • The "Only Reasonable Inference" Standard: Critics, including legal scholars from the U.S. and Germany, argued the Commission lowered the legal bar for "intent" to reach a pre-determined conclusion.

    • Inversion of Intent: Critics claim the Commission focused almost exclusively on the "incitement" of Israeli officials while downplaying the explicit genocidal charter and actions of Hamas on October 7, 2023, creating an "asymmetrical" moral and legal framework.

    4. Structural "Exceptionalism"

    Bias is often cited not just in words, but in the unique administrative setup of this specific Commission:

    • The "Eternal" Mandate: This is the only UN commission in history with no expiration date. Critics argue this creates a permanent "inquisition" specifically for the world's only Jewish state, a level of scrutiny not applied to any other conflict zone (e.g., Syria, South Sudan, or Ukraine).  

    • Budgetary Disparity: The Commission’s budget is significantly higher than other fact-finding missions. In 2024, the U.S. and Israel led a campaign to slash its budget, calling it a "waste of resources" dedicated to a "one-sided narrative."




    The UNHRC operates on a majority-vote system. The resolution that created this Commission (Resolution S-30/1) was introduced by Pakistan on behalf of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC).  

    • The Voting Math: There are 47 seats on the Council. Developing nations and members of the OIC often vote as a unified bloc on Middle East issues.

    • The Result: The resolution passed with 24 votes in favor, 9 against, and 14 abstentions. Because the "Yes" votes represented a majority of those present, the Commission was established with its specific, controversial mandate despite intense opposition from Western nations like the U.S., Germany, and the UK.


    2. The "Item 7" Institutional Framework

    Israel is the only country in the world that has a permanent standing agenda item at the UNHRC (known as Item 7).  

    • Every other human rights issue in the world is grouped under "Item 4."

    • Because "Item 7" exists, the Council is structurally designed to debate Israel at every single session. This institutional setup provided the "track" for the Commission to be created with an open-ended mandate (no expiration date), a status granted to no other investigative body in UN history. 

    ….


    Lerxst bud, you’re wasting your time. Dems have become a people who put their hearts and trust with the likes of Pakistan and Iran.

    You can show them til the cows come home the foundation of their attacks are based in bigotry, they don’t care.

    Because that’s precisely what bigotry is.


  • Halifax2TheMax
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    * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.


    Thanks for the AI slop. Much appreciated.

    Don’t take it from me, take it from two independent Israeli organizations to conclude that Israel is committing genocide against the Palestinians. Not hate, the truth. But I do hate genocide and the nations that commit it.

    Back to The Bus Driver, bet you didn’t know that while he withdrew all the EOs that Adams had implemented since being indicted, including the one that got Bibi The Butcher so upset, he kept the office it created and reiterated his support of and for it. So yea, Bibi The Butcher should shut the fuck up about the new, freely elected, unindicted, Muslim mayor of NYC.

    Israel/OPT: Israeli organizations conclude Israel committing genocide against Palestinians in Gaza in another milestone for accountability efforts 

    Following the landmark publication of two reports by leading Israeli human rights organizations B’Tselem and Physicians for Human Rights Israel, which concluded that Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians in the occupied Gaza Strip, Amnesty International’s Secretary General, Agnès Callamard, said: 

    “With the publication of these two reports, B’Tselem and Physicians for Human Rights Israel become the first two Israeli organizations to state it loud and clear, based on meticulous documentation and research: Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians in Gaza. This is another milestone in the human rights community’s efforts to hold Israeli authorities accountable for their crimes against Palestinians. 

    “Amid ongoing efforts by the Israeli government to crack down on the work of Palestinian and Israeli human rights organizations, such publications demanded courage and unyielding commitment to justice and accountability. Their findings must be heeded by the international community and translated into action to stop Israel’s genocide against Palestinians in Gaza, end its unlawful occupation of Palestinian Territory, and dismantle its system of apartheid against all Palestinians whose rights Israel controls.” 

    “B’Tselem’s report builds on a large body of work undertaken for decades to document Israel’s crimes under international law and demonstrate the cloak of impunity that has sheltered Israeli authorities from accountability. The report’s findings on the occupied West Bank, including Israel’s campaign of forcible transfer, are particularly damning and illustrate the importance of twinning the call to stop Israel’s genocide with clear demands to end its unlawful occupation of Palestinian Territory and dismantle its system of apartheid.” 

    “Physicians for Human Rights Israel’s report comprehensively documents Israel’s deliberate and systematic destruction of the healthcare system in Gaza. Taking the violations against the healthcare system and healthcare workers in their totality, its harrowing examination clearly lays out how the damage and destruction of the healthcare system in Gaza is not merely a byproduct of war, but rather part of a deliberate and calculated policy to destroy Palestinian lives in Gaza in what amounts to genocide.”  

    “The publication of these reports coincides with the start of the UN conference on Palestine in New York. Their unequivocal findings add to the inescapable call for participating states to recognize Israel’s action against Palestinians in Gaza for what it is: genocide. States know their obligations; there is no more time for performative debates, they must take urgent and effective measures to end Israel’s impunity for its human rights violations against Palestinians and stop its genocide, apartheid and unlawful occupation. Palestinians have already suffered irreversible harm; the horrors inflicted will require generations to recover from. States must not miss yet another opportunity to change course, restore some faith in international law and enable Palestinians to begin their recovery process.”  

    Background 

    The report published by B’Tselem today, titled Our Genocide, examines Israel’s actions in Gaza since 7 October, together with statements made by Israeli officials and commanders, and the broader context of Israel’s system of apartheid, decades of dehumanization of Palestinians and a pervasive culture of impunity. In addition to focusing on killings, causing bodily and mental harm, and patterns of inflicting conditions of life calculated to bring about the destruction of the group in Gaza, B’Tselem’s report analyzes escalating patterns of destruction and annihilation in the occupied West Bank, including forcible transfer, raising the alarm that Israel is “replicating in the West Bank – albeit on a smaller scale – some of the patterns it is implementing in Gaza.” 

    The medical-legal analysis published by Physicians for Human Rights Israel documents Israel’s deliberate destruction of the healthcare system in the Gaza Strip and other systems critical for the survival of the Palestinian civilian population. Building on visual evidence and the testimonies of healthcare workers and other Palestinian victims, as well as the organization’s own legal work challenging Israel’s blockade, the report documents direct and indiscriminate attacks on healthcare facilities in Gaza, blocking of medical aid, arbitrary and sweeping restrictions on medical evacuations of critically sick and wounded Palestinians outside the Gaza strip, and the detention, torture and killings of healthcare workers.  

    https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2025/07/israel-opt-israeli-organizations-conclude-israel-committing-genocide-against-palestinians-in-gaza-in-another-milestone-for-accountability-efforts/

    https://www.phr.org.il/en/genocide-in-gaza-eng/

    https://www.btselem.org/press_releases/20250728_our_genocide

    https://www.btselem.org/publications/202507_our_genocide

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  • gimmesometruth27
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    static111 said:
    The man hard at work. Uh oh, he’s focused on a few tax returns

    * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    Do you really want to go down this path, Shadow Quoter? 


    What, can’t be happy with your non stop antisemitic attacks of genocide in every topic like that Jan 2 post above? Yeah, that’s not creating an abusive and harmful atmosphere …they left the 7,000th version of the Levant tab open for you to spam that crap but it’s clearly not enough to satisfy the encouragement of hatred in every topic!



     Just pay your fair share when you come to any potential shows here and all will be good. Love the threats pal! Or maybe he is figuring out a way to tax AI, as in Human to Machine?
    What definition of anti semitism are you using.  You keep using that word, but all I have seen is criticism of Israel and bibi 
    It’s all pro-genociders have. 
    yep, any criticism of the israeli government is an attack on all jewish people.
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,710
    edited January 5
    static111 said:
    The man hard at work. Uh oh, he’s focused on a few tax returns

    * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    Do you really want to go down this path, Shadow Quoter? 


    What, can’t be happy with your non stop antisemitic attacks of genocide in every topic like that Jan 2 post above? Yeah, that’s not creating an abusive and harmful atmosphere …they left the 7,000th version of the Levant tab open for you to spam that crap but it’s clearly not enough to satisfy the encouragement of hatred in every topic!



     Just pay your fair share when you come to any potential shows here and all will be good. Love the threats pal! Or maybe he is figuring out a way to tax AI, as in Human to Machine?
    What definition of anti semitism are you using.  You keep using that word, but all I have seen is criticism of Israel and bibi 
    It’s all pro-genociders have. 
    yep, any criticism of the israeli government is an attack on all jewish people.


    The criticism is treating biased orgs like Amnesty intl and the UNHRC as if they’re the gold standard and free of bias.

    its a dishonest approach to discussion, but believe whatever you must. And again, all I support  here are 2 sides committing brutal acts of war. But extremists need to reinvent truth to create the narrative they want. And the only reason it’s here is someone couldn’t take the silence in the levant topic so they had to bring it here.

     
     
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,981
    static111 said:
    The man hard at work. Uh oh, he’s focused on a few tax returns

    * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    Do you really want to go down this path, Shadow Quoter? 


    What, can’t be happy with your non stop antisemitic attacks of genocide in every topic like that Jan 2 post above? Yeah, that’s not creating an abusive and harmful atmosphere …they left the 7,000th version of the Levant tab open for you to spam that crap but it’s clearly not enough to satisfy the encouragement of hatred in every topic!



     Just pay your fair share when you come to any potential shows here and all will be good. Love the threats pal! Or maybe he is figuring out a way to tax AI, as in Human to Machine?
    What definition of anti semitism are you using.  You keep using that word, but all I have seen is criticism of Israel and bibi 
    It’s all pro-genociders have. 
    yep, any criticism of the israeli government is an attack on all jewish people.


    The criticism is treating biased orgs like Amnesty intl and the UNHRC as if they’re the gold standard and free of bias.

    its a dishonest approach to discussion, but believe whatever you must. And again, all I support  here are 2 sides committing brutal acts of war. But extremists need to reinvent truth to create the narrative they want. And the only reason it’s here is someone couldn’t take the silence in the levant topic so they had to bring it here.

     
     

    * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    More dishonesty from you. The title of this thread is: Mayor Zohran Mamdani and NYC. My post that seemingly has your knickers in a bunch was regarding Bibi The Butcher’s calling The Bus Driver anti-Semitic on day one of his administration because of his rescission of the previous mayor’s EO, not realizing or mentioning that The Bus Driver kept the office it created and reiterated his support and commitment to same.

    Just more dishonesty from the pro-genocide crowd. Congrats.

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    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,981
    static111 said:
    The man hard at work. Uh oh, he’s focused on a few tax returns

    * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    Do you really want to go down this path, Shadow Quoter? 


    What, can’t be happy with your non stop antisemitic attacks of genocide in every topic like that Jan 2 post above? Yeah, that’s not creating an abusive and harmful atmosphere …they left the 7,000th version of the Levant tab open for you to spam that crap but it’s clearly not enough to satisfy the encouragement of hatred in every topic!



     Just pay your fair share when you come to any potential shows here and all will be good. Love the threats pal! Or maybe he is figuring out a way to tax AI, as in Human to Machine?
    What definition of anti semitism are you using.  You keep using that word, but all I have seen is criticism of Israel and bibi 
    It’s all pro-genociders have. 
    yep, any criticism of the israeli government is an attack on all jewish people.


    The criticism is treating biased orgs like Amnesty intl and the UNHRC as if they’re the gold standard and free of bias.

    its a dishonest approach to discussion, but believe whatever you must. And again, all I support  here are 2 sides committing brutal acts of war. But extremists need to reinvent truth to create the narrative they want. And the only reason it’s here is someone couldn’t take the silence in the levant topic so they had to bring it here.

     
     

    * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    Back to shadow quoting, eh?

    It’s dishonesty at its finest to mischaracterize the facts of my post as information from “biased organizations like Amnesty International and the UNHRC” as I linked to the two Israeli organizations that issued the reports that Amnesty was reporting on and made no mention of the UNHRC. You apparently had some AI slop induced conversation with yourself regarding the UNHRC drivel.

    Dishonest as the day is long.

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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,710
    static111 said:
    The man hard at work. Uh oh, he’s focused on a few tax returns

    * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    Do you really want to go down this path, Shadow Quoter? 


    What, can’t be happy with your non stop antisemitic attacks of genocide in every topic like that Jan 2 post above? Yeah, that’s not creating an abusive and harmful atmosphere …they left the 7,000th version of the Levant tab open for you to spam that crap but it’s clearly not enough to satisfy the encouragement of hatred in every topic!



     Just pay your fair share when you come to any potential shows here and all will be good. Love the threats pal! Or maybe he is figuring out a way to tax AI, as in Human to Machine?
    What definition of anti semitism are you using.  You keep using that word, but all I have seen is criticism of Israel and bibi 
    It’s all pro-genociders have. 
    yep, any criticism of the israeli government is an attack on all jewish people.


    The criticism is treating biased orgs like Amnesty intl and the UNHRC as if they’re the gold standard and free of bias.

    its a dishonest approach to discussion, but believe whatever you must. And again, all I support  here are 2 sides committing brutal acts of war. But extremists need to reinvent truth to create the narrative they want. And the only reason it’s here is someone couldn’t take the silence in the levant topic so they had to bring it here.

     
     

    * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    More dishonesty from you. The title of this thread is: Mayor Zohran Mamdani and NYC. My post that seemingly has your knickers in a bunch was regarding Bibi The Butcher’s calling The Bus Driver anti-Semitic on day one of his administration because of his rescission of the previous mayor’s EO, not realizing or mentioning that The Bus Driver kept the office it created and reiterated his support and commitment to same.

    Just more dishonesty from the pro-genocide crowd. Congrats.


    “Pro genocide” is your main attack and an outright lie and the reason for my counter, as was your absurd cursing, and you can’t even keep it in the levant tab . Representing Amnesty and the UNHRC as unbiased is a lie. Saying both sides in that war have committed reprehensible acts is the extent of my opinion, I’d ask you stop lying about that, stop making up lies about my comments, it puts you in a league with potus, but I know better what to expect. You and him, pees in a pod.

    It’s one thing to lie about current events , but you and those similar don’t have the courage to stop lying about others opinions. Not sure what you’ll get to do for fun here in three weeks, but enjoy!