Mayor Zohran Mamdani and NYC

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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,753
    edited February 25
    My larger point is that yahoo is trying to paint them as similar situations that aren't treated the same way. my point is they aren't 1:1 analogous. 
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 25,662
    the fact that people are more concerned about the temporary show shovelers working during a historic snowstorm paying their taxes while billionaires are allowed to evade all taxes is pretty telling.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,754
    nicknyr15 said:
    Mamdani will burn for this.
    Just pointing out how hypocritical it is regardless of one’s stance on voter ID. Same way you pointed out the hypocrisy in another thread about people believing the 2024 election was rigged. 
    It’s not hypocritical because you identify who you are when you register to vote. The bad logic in the voter id discussions is a bit much. 
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 43,049
    nicknyr15 said:
    OK latest Mamdani news.

    He has a deficit, not a surplus so far they found. There is reserves but he's trying not to tap into those just yet.

    He is not hiring 3000 or so more cops but will keep it where it is.  NYC is having a hard time finding recruitments.  Thats fair considering not too long ago the whole country went anti cop.

    He wants to increase the property tax which isn't the best idea.  The lower incomes already burden that already.  NYC has some whacky tax laws regarding rental properties.

    This may also be a bad idea because the added costs will go directly to the renter and bypass the owners. Even rent protected properties.

    He wants to tax the rich.  I know Cuomo did this already.  Not sure what else they can do on this but they are working on it. Hocul doesn't want to do it.

    Lets see if those free bus and rental freezes come to fruition.

    He's trying.  Lets see what he and his admin can do.
    yeah all the wannabe cops joined ice, with predictable results.

    nobody wants to be a cop because the make shit money and risk their lives. but they do get to gang up and beat people's asses whenever they want though, so some people might find that worthwhile.

    he should tax the rich and call their bluff. if they are mad enough they will move.
    Nice putting all the cops in one bunch.

    You say they risk their lives one sentence then they like beating people in another...

    You think they became Ice agents so they could be harassed even more?

    Also he can't tax the rich without Holculs blessing.
    no they joined ice for the 100k salary and sign on bonus. they had no background check to pass. they took the money because they could get paid 35% more than your average cop. if a city wants more cops, they need to pay them and take care of them. 

    but yes, i do not like cops because they kill people for no reason. they purposely escalate situations, and they shoot first and ask questions later. they have hair triggers. i have friends that are cops and i refuse to go to the bar with them because they are always wanting to fight. you have to have a certain personality to be a cop. the good ones go make more money elsewhere. same job, same risks, but if you are of that personality type, why not join ice for the money, the immunity, and the carte blanche?
    I'd find new friends if they are like that.

    We used to joke that a cop had to have been on the HS baseball team.  For some crazy reason a lot of them are... Not sure why.  Weird oddity.

    Now I can only speak about NY because this is where I reside.  Cops make really good money here.  Not like the Mayberry cops. We do have the highest paid cops in the country here in NY. Nassau and Suffolk being two of the highest.  NYC pays 100,000 after five years.

    If all cops had hair triggers then we would have endless bodies but we don't.  I will defend good cops but will surely bury the bad ones.
    NY vs NYC is not comparable. NYC cops work some of the worst neighborhood for less than half of that. 
    I mentioned NYC pays 105K after 5 years. That isn't peanuts.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 43,049
    OK latest Mamdani news.

    He has a deficit, not a surplus so far they found. There is reserves but he's trying not to tap into those just yet.

    He is not hiring 3000 or so more cops but will keep it where it is.  NYC is having a hard time finding recruitments.  Thats fair considering not too long ago the whole country went anti cop.

    He wants to increase the property tax which isn't the best idea.  The lower incomes already burden that already.  NYC has some whacky tax laws regarding rental properties.

    This may also be a bad idea because the added costs will go directly to the renter and bypass the owners. Even rent protected properties.

    He wants to tax the rich.  I know Cuomo did this already.  Not sure what else they can do on this but they are working on it. Hocul doesn't want to do it.

    Lets see if those free bus and rental freezes come to fruition.

    He's trying.  Lets see what he and his admin can do.

    *The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    You forgot building affordable housing on city owned property.

    A Police Parking Lot in East Harlem Will Become Affordable Housing

    The project is the latest example of a push by New York City to build homes on land it owns. The building will be 100 percent affordable, officials say.

    For many years, police officers in East Harlem would park their squad cars in a large lot just outside the 25th Precinct building. Now, officials view that arrangement as a clear example of how not to use New York City land.

    Instead, officials hosted a groundbreaking on Wednesday for a new, 20-story affordable housing building, known as Timbale Terrace, that will be built on the 23,000-square-foot lot on East 118th Street. It will include nearly 100 apartments for formerly homeless New Yorkers and more than 240 additional affordable units.

    The building will also have a new garage for the Police Department and a space for the Afro Latin Jazz Alliance, which is changing its name to Belongó, in a nod to the community’s cultural roots.

    Every home in the building will be affordable, including more than 61 one-bedroom apartments that rent for around $900, and 44 two-bedroom apartments that rent for about $2,550.

    The $255 million project represents the kind of transformation that Mayor Zohran Mamdani wants to encourage as he seeks to address New York City’s housing crisis. In one of his first acts in office, the mayor directed agencies to, by July, find public places — parking lots, office buildings, libraries, hospital campuses — where at least 25,000 homes can be built over the next 10 years.

    At a news conference on Wednesday, Mr. Mamdani said the city would announce “more initiatives like this one” over the coming weeks and months.

    “We’re not just paving the way for new units,” he said. “We’re paving the way for a city where housing is plentiful and affordable.”

    Hundreds of thousands of New York City residents struggle to afford their homes as the cost of housing continues to grow. The average monthly rent on a new Manhattan lease, for example, was about $5,711 in January, the highest such figure on record, according to the brokerage Douglas Elliman.

    But finding places to build affordable housing can be extraordinarily difficult. Land, particularly in desirable neighborhoods, is expensive, and advocating new development can be politically perilous.

    That is why publicly owned sites present a particular allure. The city already owns the land, so it can control the type of housing built there. The land itself is essentially free, making it easier to support more affordable apartments.

    Mr. Mamdani is just the latest New York City leader to target publicly owned sites. In 2024, Mayor Eric Adams issued an executive order “requiring city agencies to review their city-owned and -controlled land for potential housing development sites.” Other former mayors, including Bill de Blasio and Michael R. Bloomberg, included similar strategies in their housing plans.

    Over the past 20 years, between 7 percent and 10 percent of housing production has been on publicly owned sites, said Michael Sandler, the associate commissioner for neighborhood strategies at the city’s Department of Housing Preservation & Development. There are hundreds of similar sites that could be developed, he said.

    But there can be challenges to building on those sites, too.

    It might be difficult to relocate whatever was already on the land. At the East Harlem site, the city has temporarily moved the police vehicles to other lots in the neighborhood until the new garage is built.

    The city still has a long pipeline of projects that have been approved but are awaiting funding. Just because the city has the land and the will to build doesn’t mean construction can start right away, Mr. Sandler said.

    The idea for the East Harlem project took shape more than a decade ago. Residents and local politicians wanted to revitalize the neighborhood, leading to a rezoning in 2017 of 96 blocks to encourage more housing and commercial investment.

    The East 118th Street development was approved by the City Council in 2024. It is expected to open to new residents in 2028.

    Some neighbors are not happy.

    Eva Chan, 49, helped create a group called the Harlem East Block Association, which had urged politicians to reject the development.

    Ms. Chan, who lived nearby between 2017 and 2024 and still owns a three-unit rental building across from the development, said New York City consistently places projects benefiting low-income and homeless people in East Harlem.

    She said she had already noticed an increase in drug use in the neighborhood, especially after the opening of several overdose prevention centers, and she was worried that the operator of the new building would not do enough to prevent drug use or crime from rising.

    Other, wealthier neighborhoods should also make way for these types of developments, she argued.

    “Why do children on the Upper East Side and Upper West Side have the right to clean and safe streets, and children in East Harlem don’t?” she said.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/18/nyregion/nypd-parking-affordable-housing-nyc.html

    Look up One45.  It's also an idea for Harlem and is being heavily objected to by locals in fear of more gentrification.

    This article is interesting.  It mentions 240 units plus 100 for homeless. Then it mentions 61 1BR for 900 and 41 2BR for 2550.  Maybe my math is off but that leaves another 140 "affordable" units pricing not referenced.

    I did mention the upcoming project in the Rockaways being built too a while back.  Adams gets credit for that though.


  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,981
    OK latest Mamdani news.

    He has a deficit, not a surplus so far they found. There is reserves but he's trying not to tap into those just yet.

    He is not hiring 3000 or so more cops but will keep it where it is.  NYC is having a hard time finding recruitments.  Thats fair considering not too long ago the whole country went anti cop.

    He wants to increase the property tax which isn't the best idea.  The lower incomes already burden that already.  NYC has some whacky tax laws regarding rental properties.

    This may also be a bad idea because the added costs will go directly to the renter and bypass the owners. Even rent protected properties.

    He wants to tax the rich.  I know Cuomo did this already.  Not sure what else they can do on this but they are working on it. Hocul doesn't want to do it.

    Lets see if those free bus and rental freezes come to fruition.

    He's trying.  Lets see what he and his admin can do.

    *The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    You forgot building affordable housing on city owned property.

    A Police Parking Lot in East Harlem Will Become Affordable Housing

    The project is the latest example of a push by New York City to build homes on land it owns. The building will be 100 percent affordable, officials say.

    For many years, police officers in East Harlem would park their squad cars in a large lot just outside the 25th Precinct building. Now, officials view that arrangement as a clear example of how not to use New York City land.

    Instead, officials hosted a groundbreaking on Wednesday for a new, 20-story affordable housing building, known as Timbale Terrace, that will be built on the 23,000-square-foot lot on East 118th Street. It will include nearly 100 apartments for formerly homeless New Yorkers and more than 240 additional affordable units.

    The building will also have a new garage for the Police Department and a space for the Afro Latin Jazz Alliance, which is changing its name to Belongó, in a nod to the community’s cultural roots.

    Every home in the building will be affordable, including more than 61 one-bedroom apartments that rent for around $900, and 44 two-bedroom apartments that rent for about $2,550.

    The $255 million project represents the kind of transformation that Mayor Zohran Mamdani wants to encourage as he seeks to address New York City’s housing crisis. In one of his first acts in office, the mayor directed agencies to, by July, find public places — parking lots, office buildings, libraries, hospital campuses — where at least 25,000 homes can be built over the next 10 years.

    At a news conference on Wednesday, Mr. Mamdani said the city would announce “more initiatives like this one” over the coming weeks and months.

    “We’re not just paving the way for new units,” he said. “We’re paving the way for a city where housing is plentiful and affordable.”

    Hundreds of thousands of New York City residents struggle to afford their homes as the cost of housing continues to grow. The average monthly rent on a new Manhattan lease, for example, was about $5,711 in January, the highest such figure on record, according to the brokerage Douglas Elliman.

    But finding places to build affordable housing can be extraordinarily difficult. Land, particularly in desirable neighborhoods, is expensive, and advocating new development can be politically perilous.

    That is why publicly owned sites present a particular allure. The city already owns the land, so it can control the type of housing built there. The land itself is essentially free, making it easier to support more affordable apartments.

    Mr. Mamdani is just the latest New York City leader to target publicly owned sites. In 2024, Mayor Eric Adams issued an executive order “requiring city agencies to review their city-owned and -controlled land for potential housing development sites.” Other former mayors, including Bill de Blasio and Michael R. Bloomberg, included similar strategies in their housing plans.

    Over the past 20 years, between 7 percent and 10 percent of housing production has been on publicly owned sites, said Michael Sandler, the associate commissioner for neighborhood strategies at the city’s Department of Housing Preservation & Development. There are hundreds of similar sites that could be developed, he said.

    But there can be challenges to building on those sites, too.

    It might be difficult to relocate whatever was already on the land. At the East Harlem site, the city has temporarily moved the police vehicles to other lots in the neighborhood until the new garage is built.

    The city still has a long pipeline of projects that have been approved but are awaiting funding. Just because the city has the land and the will to build doesn’t mean construction can start right away, Mr. Sandler said.

    The idea for the East Harlem project took shape more than a decade ago. Residents and local politicians wanted to revitalize the neighborhood, leading to a rezoning in 2017 of 96 blocks to encourage more housing and commercial investment.

    The East 118th Street development was approved by the City Council in 2024. It is expected to open to new residents in 2028.

    Some neighbors are not happy.

    Eva Chan, 49, helped create a group called the Harlem East Block Association, which had urged politicians to reject the development.

    Ms. Chan, who lived nearby between 2017 and 2024 and still owns a three-unit rental building across from the development, said New York City consistently places projects benefiting low-income and homeless people in East Harlem.

    She said she had already noticed an increase in drug use in the neighborhood, especially after the opening of several overdose prevention centers, and she was worried that the operator of the new building would not do enough to prevent drug use or crime from rising.

    Other, wealthier neighborhoods should also make way for these types of developments, she argued.

    “Why do children on the Upper East Side and Upper West Side have the right to clean and safe streets, and children in East Harlem don’t?” she said.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/18/nyregion/nypd-parking-affordable-housing-nyc.html

    Look up One45.  It's also an idea for Harlem and is being heavily objected to by locals in fear of more gentrification.

    This article is interesting.  It mentions 240 units plus 100 for homeless. Then it mentions 61 1BR for 900 and 41 2BR for 2550.  Maybe my math is off but that leaves another 140 "affordable" units pricing not referenced.

    I did mention the upcoming project in the Rockaways being built too a while back.  Adams gets credit for that though.


    *The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    Everything I’ve been able to find has the total number of units within a couple of each other but this one says that other than the 99 homeless units, all of them are “affordable”, with renters not earning more than 70% and 50% of AMI. Latern Housing is the support organization for the tenants.

    https://lanternhousing.org/properties/timbale-terrace/

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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 43,049
    OK latest Mamdani news.

    He has a deficit, not a surplus so far they found. There is reserves but he's trying not to tap into those just yet.

    He is not hiring 3000 or so more cops but will keep it where it is.  NYC is having a hard time finding recruitments.  Thats fair considering not too long ago the whole country went anti cop.

    He wants to increase the property tax which isn't the best idea.  The lower incomes already burden that already.  NYC has some whacky tax laws regarding rental properties.

    This may also be a bad idea because the added costs will go directly to the renter and bypass the owners. Even rent protected properties.

    He wants to tax the rich.  I know Cuomo did this already.  Not sure what else they can do on this but they are working on it. Hocul doesn't want to do it.

    Lets see if those free bus and rental freezes come to fruition.

    He's trying.  Lets see what he and his admin can do.

    *The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    You forgot building affordable housing on city owned property.

    A Police Parking Lot in East Harlem Will Become Affordable Housing

    The project is the latest example of a push by New York City to build homes on land it owns. The building will be 100 percent affordable, officials say.

    For many years, police officers in East Harlem would park their squad cars in a large lot just outside the 25th Precinct building. Now, officials view that arrangement as a clear example of how not to use New York City land.

    Instead, officials hosted a groundbreaking on Wednesday for a new, 20-story affordable housing building, known as Timbale Terrace, that will be built on the 23,000-square-foot lot on East 118th Street. It will include nearly 100 apartments for formerly homeless New Yorkers and more than 240 additional affordable units.

    The building will also have a new garage for the Police Department and a space for the Afro Latin Jazz Alliance, which is changing its name to Belongó, in a nod to the community’s cultural roots.

    Every home in the building will be affordable, including more than 61 one-bedroom apartments that rent for around $900, and 44 two-bedroom apartments that rent for about $2,550.

    The $255 million project represents the kind of transformation that Mayor Zohran Mamdani wants to encourage as he seeks to address New York City’s housing crisis. In one of his first acts in office, the mayor directed agencies to, by July, find public places — parking lots, office buildings, libraries, hospital campuses — where at least 25,000 homes can be built over the next 10 years.

    At a news conference on Wednesday, Mr. Mamdani said the city would announce “more initiatives like this one” over the coming weeks and months.

    “We’re not just paving the way for new units,” he said. “We’re paving the way for a city where housing is plentiful and affordable.”

    Hundreds of thousands of New York City residents struggle to afford their homes as the cost of housing continues to grow. The average monthly rent on a new Manhattan lease, for example, was about $5,711 in January, the highest such figure on record, according to the brokerage Douglas Elliman.

    But finding places to build affordable housing can be extraordinarily difficult. Land, particularly in desirable neighborhoods, is expensive, and advocating new development can be politically perilous.

    That is why publicly owned sites present a particular allure. The city already owns the land, so it can control the type of housing built there. The land itself is essentially free, making it easier to support more affordable apartments.

    Mr. Mamdani is just the latest New York City leader to target publicly owned sites. In 2024, Mayor Eric Adams issued an executive order “requiring city agencies to review their city-owned and -controlled land for potential housing development sites.” Other former mayors, including Bill de Blasio and Michael R. Bloomberg, included similar strategies in their housing plans.

    Over the past 20 years, between 7 percent and 10 percent of housing production has been on publicly owned sites, said Michael Sandler, the associate commissioner for neighborhood strategies at the city’s Department of Housing Preservation & Development. There are hundreds of similar sites that could be developed, he said.

    But there can be challenges to building on those sites, too.

    It might be difficult to relocate whatever was already on the land. At the East Harlem site, the city has temporarily moved the police vehicles to other lots in the neighborhood until the new garage is built.

    The city still has a long pipeline of projects that have been approved but are awaiting funding. Just because the city has the land and the will to build doesn’t mean construction can start right away, Mr. Sandler said.

    The idea for the East Harlem project took shape more than a decade ago. Residents and local politicians wanted to revitalize the neighborhood, leading to a rezoning in 2017 of 96 blocks to encourage more housing and commercial investment.

    The East 118th Street development was approved by the City Council in 2024. It is expected to open to new residents in 2028.

    Some neighbors are not happy.

    Eva Chan, 49, helped create a group called the Harlem East Block Association, which had urged politicians to reject the development.

    Ms. Chan, who lived nearby between 2017 and 2024 and still owns a three-unit rental building across from the development, said New York City consistently places projects benefiting low-income and homeless people in East Harlem.

    She said she had already noticed an increase in drug use in the neighborhood, especially after the opening of several overdose prevention centers, and she was worried that the operator of the new building would not do enough to prevent drug use or crime from rising.

    Other, wealthier neighborhoods should also make way for these types of developments, she argued.

    “Why do children on the Upper East Side and Upper West Side have the right to clean and safe streets, and children in East Harlem don’t?” she said.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/18/nyregion/nypd-parking-affordable-housing-nyc.html

    Look up One45.  It's also an idea for Harlem and is being heavily objected to by locals in fear of more gentrification.

    This article is interesting.  It mentions 240 units plus 100 for homeless. Then it mentions 61 1BR for 900 and 41 2BR for 2550.  Maybe my math is off but that leaves another 140 "affordable" units pricing not referenced.

    I did mention the upcoming project in the Rockaways being built too a while back.  Adams gets credit for that though.


    *The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    Everything I’ve been able to find has the total number of units within a couple of each other but this one says that other than the 99 homeless units, all of them are “affordable”, with renters not earning more than 70% and 50% of AMI. Latern Housing is the support organization for the tenants.

    https://lanternhousing.org/properties/timbale-terrace/

    This explains it better, ty.  70% AMI.  So the renter pays 70% of the areas income for an apartment.  That is interesting.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,981
    OK latest Mamdani news.

    He has a deficit, not a surplus so far they found. There is reserves but he's trying not to tap into those just yet.

    He is not hiring 3000 or so more cops but will keep it where it is.  NYC is having a hard time finding recruitments.  Thats fair considering not too long ago the whole country went anti cop.

    He wants to increase the property tax which isn't the best idea.  The lower incomes already burden that already.  NYC has some whacky tax laws regarding rental properties.

    This may also be a bad idea because the added costs will go directly to the renter and bypass the owners. Even rent protected properties.

    He wants to tax the rich.  I know Cuomo did this already.  Not sure what else they can do on this but they are working on it. Hocul doesn't want to do it.

    Lets see if those free bus and rental freezes come to fruition.

    He's trying.  Lets see what he and his admin can do.

    *The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    You forgot building affordable housing on city owned property.

    A Police Parking Lot in East Harlem Will Become Affordable Housing

    The project is the latest example of a push by New York City to build homes on land it owns. The building will be 100 percent affordable, officials say.

    For many years, police officers in East Harlem would park their squad cars in a large lot just outside the 25th Precinct building. Now, officials view that arrangement as a clear example of how not to use New York City land.

    Instead, officials hosted a groundbreaking on Wednesday for a new, 20-story affordable housing building, known as Timbale Terrace, that will be built on the 23,000-square-foot lot on East 118th Street. It will include nearly 100 apartments for formerly homeless New Yorkers and more than 240 additional affordable units.

    The building will also have a new garage for the Police Department and a space for the Afro Latin Jazz Alliance, which is changing its name to Belongó, in a nod to the community’s cultural roots.

    Every home in the building will be affordable, including more than 61 one-bedroom apartments that rent for around $900, and 44 two-bedroom apartments that rent for about $2,550.

    The $255 million project represents the kind of transformation that Mayor Zohran Mamdani wants to encourage as he seeks to address New York City’s housing crisis. In one of his first acts in office, the mayor directed agencies to, by July, find public places — parking lots, office buildings, libraries, hospital campuses — where at least 25,000 homes can be built over the next 10 years.

    At a news conference on Wednesday, Mr. Mamdani said the city would announce “more initiatives like this one” over the coming weeks and months.

    “We’re not just paving the way for new units,” he said. “We’re paving the way for a city where housing is plentiful and affordable.”

    Hundreds of thousands of New York City residents struggle to afford their homes as the cost of housing continues to grow. The average monthly rent on a new Manhattan lease, for example, was about $5,711 in January, the highest such figure on record, according to the brokerage Douglas Elliman.

    But finding places to build affordable housing can be extraordinarily difficult. Land, particularly in desirable neighborhoods, is expensive, and advocating new development can be politically perilous.

    That is why publicly owned sites present a particular allure. The city already owns the land, so it can control the type of housing built there. The land itself is essentially free, making it easier to support more affordable apartments.

    Mr. Mamdani is just the latest New York City leader to target publicly owned sites. In 2024, Mayor Eric Adams issued an executive order “requiring city agencies to review their city-owned and -controlled land for potential housing development sites.” Other former mayors, including Bill de Blasio and Michael R. Bloomberg, included similar strategies in their housing plans.

    Over the past 20 years, between 7 percent and 10 percent of housing production has been on publicly owned sites, said Michael Sandler, the associate commissioner for neighborhood strategies at the city’s Department of Housing Preservation & Development. There are hundreds of similar sites that could be developed, he said.

    But there can be challenges to building on those sites, too.

    It might be difficult to relocate whatever was already on the land. At the East Harlem site, the city has temporarily moved the police vehicles to other lots in the neighborhood until the new garage is built.

    The city still has a long pipeline of projects that have been approved but are awaiting funding. Just because the city has the land and the will to build doesn’t mean construction can start right away, Mr. Sandler said.

    The idea for the East Harlem project took shape more than a decade ago. Residents and local politicians wanted to revitalize the neighborhood, leading to a rezoning in 2017 of 96 blocks to encourage more housing and commercial investment.

    The East 118th Street development was approved by the City Council in 2024. It is expected to open to new residents in 2028.

    Some neighbors are not happy.

    Eva Chan, 49, helped create a group called the Harlem East Block Association, which had urged politicians to reject the development.

    Ms. Chan, who lived nearby between 2017 and 2024 and still owns a three-unit rental building across from the development, said New York City consistently places projects benefiting low-income and homeless people in East Harlem.

    She said she had already noticed an increase in drug use in the neighborhood, especially after the opening of several overdose prevention centers, and she was worried that the operator of the new building would not do enough to prevent drug use or crime from rising.

    Other, wealthier neighborhoods should also make way for these types of developments, she argued.

    “Why do children on the Upper East Side and Upper West Side have the right to clean and safe streets, and children in East Harlem don’t?” she said.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/18/nyregion/nypd-parking-affordable-housing-nyc.html

    Look up One45.  It's also an idea for Harlem and is being heavily objected to by locals in fear of more gentrification.

    This article is interesting.  It mentions 240 units plus 100 for homeless. Then it mentions 61 1BR for 900 and 41 2BR for 2550.  Maybe my math is off but that leaves another 140 "affordable" units pricing not referenced.

    I did mention the upcoming project in the Rockaways being built too a while back.  Adams gets credit for that though.


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    Everything I’ve been able to find has the total number of units within a couple of each other but this one says that other than the 99 homeless units, all of them are “affordable”, with renters not earning more than 70% and 50% of AMI. Latern Housing is the support organization for the tenants.

    https://lanternhousing.org/properties/timbale-terrace/

    This explains it better, ty.  70% AMI.  So the renter pays 70% of the areas income for an apartment.  That is interesting.


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    No, they can’t earn more than the 50%- 70% ($63,947 - $89,525) average mean income for NYC ($127,894) to be eligible to live there. I’m assuming it’s total family income so one-bedroom to three-bedrooms. Single guy earning $64K isn’t eligible.

    There’s an application process which includes tax returns, criminal history and credit reporting, for the “affordable” units. No idea how the homeless assignments work. But I’m assuming expressing interest, application process, commitment to get off the street, not using drugs or being in court ordered treatment. Aging out of foster care is probably similar.
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  • tempo_n_groove
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    OK latest Mamdani news.

    He has a deficit, not a surplus so far they found. There is reserves but he's trying not to tap into those just yet.

    He is not hiring 3000 or so more cops but will keep it where it is.  NYC is having a hard time finding recruitments.  Thats fair considering not too long ago the whole country went anti cop.

    He wants to increase the property tax which isn't the best idea.  The lower incomes already burden that already.  NYC has some whacky tax laws regarding rental properties.

    This may also be a bad idea because the added costs will go directly to the renter and bypass the owners. Even rent protected properties.

    He wants to tax the rich.  I know Cuomo did this already.  Not sure what else they can do on this but they are working on it. Hocul doesn't want to do it.

    Lets see if those free bus and rental freezes come to fruition.

    He's trying.  Lets see what he and his admin can do.

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    You forgot building affordable housing on city owned property.

    A Police Parking Lot in East Harlem Will Become Affordable Housing

    The project is the latest example of a push by New York City to build homes on land it owns. The building will be 100 percent affordable, officials say.

    For many years, police officers in East Harlem would park their squad cars in a large lot just outside the 25th Precinct building. Now, officials view that arrangement as a clear example of how not to use New York City land.

    Instead, officials hosted a groundbreaking on Wednesday for a new, 20-story affordable housing building, known as Timbale Terrace, that will be built on the 23,000-square-foot lot on East 118th Street. It will include nearly 100 apartments for formerly homeless New Yorkers and more than 240 additional affordable units.

    The building will also have a new garage for the Police Department and a space for the Afro Latin Jazz Alliance, which is changing its name to Belongó, in a nod to the community’s cultural roots.

    Every home in the building will be affordable, including more than 61 one-bedroom apartments that rent for around $900, and 44 two-bedroom apartments that rent for about $2,550.

    The $255 million project represents the kind of transformation that Mayor Zohran Mamdani wants to encourage as he seeks to address New York City’s housing crisis. In one of his first acts in office, the mayor directed agencies to, by July, find public places — parking lots, office buildings, libraries, hospital campuses — where at least 25,000 homes can be built over the next 10 years.

    At a news conference on Wednesday, Mr. Mamdani said the city would announce “more initiatives like this one” over the coming weeks and months.

    “We’re not just paving the way for new units,” he said. “We’re paving the way for a city where housing is plentiful and affordable.”

    Hundreds of thousands of New York City residents struggle to afford their homes as the cost of housing continues to grow. The average monthly rent on a new Manhattan lease, for example, was about $5,711 in January, the highest such figure on record, according to the brokerage Douglas Elliman.

    But finding places to build affordable housing can be extraordinarily difficult. Land, particularly in desirable neighborhoods, is expensive, and advocating new development can be politically perilous.

    That is why publicly owned sites present a particular allure. The city already owns the land, so it can control the type of housing built there. The land itself is essentially free, making it easier to support more affordable apartments.

    Mr. Mamdani is just the latest New York City leader to target publicly owned sites. In 2024, Mayor Eric Adams issued an executive order “requiring city agencies to review their city-owned and -controlled land for potential housing development sites.” Other former mayors, including Bill de Blasio and Michael R. Bloomberg, included similar strategies in their housing plans.

    Over the past 20 years, between 7 percent and 10 percent of housing production has been on publicly owned sites, said Michael Sandler, the associate commissioner for neighborhood strategies at the city’s Department of Housing Preservation & Development. There are hundreds of similar sites that could be developed, he said.

    But there can be challenges to building on those sites, too.

    It might be difficult to relocate whatever was already on the land. At the East Harlem site, the city has temporarily moved the police vehicles to other lots in the neighborhood until the new garage is built.

    The city still has a long pipeline of projects that have been approved but are awaiting funding. Just because the city has the land and the will to build doesn’t mean construction can start right away, Mr. Sandler said.

    The idea for the East Harlem project took shape more than a decade ago. Residents and local politicians wanted to revitalize the neighborhood, leading to a rezoning in 2017 of 96 blocks to encourage more housing and commercial investment.

    The East 118th Street development was approved by the City Council in 2024. It is expected to open to new residents in 2028.

    Some neighbors are not happy.

    Eva Chan, 49, helped create a group called the Harlem East Block Association, which had urged politicians to reject the development.

    Ms. Chan, who lived nearby between 2017 and 2024 and still owns a three-unit rental building across from the development, said New York City consistently places projects benefiting low-income and homeless people in East Harlem.

    She said she had already noticed an increase in drug use in the neighborhood, especially after the opening of several overdose prevention centers, and she was worried that the operator of the new building would not do enough to prevent drug use or crime from rising.

    Other, wealthier neighborhoods should also make way for these types of developments, she argued.

    “Why do children on the Upper East Side and Upper West Side have the right to clean and safe streets, and children in East Harlem don’t?” she said.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/18/nyregion/nypd-parking-affordable-housing-nyc.html

    Look up One45.  It's also an idea for Harlem and is being heavily objected to by locals in fear of more gentrification.

    This article is interesting.  It mentions 240 units plus 100 for homeless. Then it mentions 61 1BR for 900 and 41 2BR for 2550.  Maybe my math is off but that leaves another 140 "affordable" units pricing not referenced.

    I did mention the upcoming project in the Rockaways being built too a while back.  Adams gets credit for that though.


    *The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    Everything I’ve been able to find has the total number of units within a couple of each other but this one says that other than the 99 homeless units, all of them are “affordable”, with renters not earning more than 70% and 50% of AMI. Latern Housing is the support organization for the tenants.

    https://lanternhousing.org/properties/timbale-terrace/

    This explains it better, ty.  70% AMI.  So the renter pays 70% of the areas income for an apartment.  That is interesting.


    *The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    No, they can’t earn more than the 50%- 70% ($63,947 - $89,525) average mean income for NYC ($127,894) to be eligible to live there. I’m assuming it’s total family income so one-bedroom to three-bedrooms. Single guy earning $64K isn’t eligible.

    There’s an application process which includes tax returns, criminal history and credit reporting, for the “affordable” units. No idea how the homeless assignments work. But I’m assuming expressing interest, application process, commitment to get off the street, not using drugs or being in court ordered treatment. Aging out of foster care is probably similar.
    I didn't look into the AMI and how it works.  Good idea.

    My other question would be is there "other" housing in that complex?  I don't see how the building recoups costs by charging way below market values or this just becomes another NYCHA baby and subsidies?
    Last paragraph about the homeless is an interesting one.  They have drug treatment facilities all up in that area.  It's an interesting place.

    I know NYC is the biggest landlord in the US with a ton of properties. Not sure how that hinders or helps the budget.
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    Buh, buh, buh we were told by a dem that the millionaires would flee the city and have to pay $117,000 on average! NYC is on its way to fully collapsing, boys and girls, just like Seattle. Question remains, will it be before or after the country collapses?

    Raise Taxes on the Rich? These Rich New Yorkers Are All for It.

    Mayor Zohran Mamdani says he wants to raise taxes on New Yorkers who earn more than $1 million per year. Some millionaires actually agree with him.

    Craig Kaplan has hosted Democratic fund-raisers with his wife at their home in Manhattan. During the critical 2024 presidential election, he held a weekly Zoom call with New York donors to sort out the party’s most pressing needs.

    Now Mr. Kaplan is using some of his political capital to focus on what may seem like a self-defeating target: helping persuade Gov. Kathy Hochul to raise taxes on wealthy New Yorkers, like him.

    Mr. Kaplan, a lawyer, is part of a group called Patriotic Millionaires, dedicated to pushing lawmakers to improve the lives of working people, in part by compelling the wealthy to pay more in taxes.

    Its mission dovetails with the platform of Mayor Zohran Mamdani of New York City, who is lobbying Ms. Hochul to increase taxes on wealthy individuals and corporations to raise money for things like universal child care.

    There is such a need in our city for the kind of programs that Mamdani is talking about,” Mr. Kaplan said in an interview. “The plans to spend the money are totally productive and serve the whole society, from the ultra rich to working people.”

    The debate over raising taxes on the rich is hardly new, and there is certainly no unanimity among millionaires, let alone elected leaders.

    Ms. Hochul, who reported earningnearly $1.5 million with her husband, William Hochul, in 2024, has consistently opposed raising income taxes, and seems unlikely to change her mind as she faces re-election this year. Bruce Blakeman, her Republican opponent, has made cutting taxes a key part of his platform.

    The idea of taxing the rich has support in New York, and seeming momentum more broadly. Roughly 63 percent of New York City residents support raising taxes on people making at least $1 million a year, and 54 percent of state residents back the plan, according to a recent poll by Siena University.

    Democrats in other states are moving to raise taxes, and bristling at how the wealthy are getting wealthier under President Trump. California and Washington State are considering raising taxes on billionaires and millionaires.

    A group of 400 millionaires from across the world recently penned a letter timed to coincide with the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, calling for higher taxes. The actor Mark Ruffalo, among the celebrities who donated to Mr. Mamdani’s campaign, signed the letter.

    “They can handle it — trust me,” Mr. Ruffalo said in a video on Instagram to his 20 million followers urging Ms. Hochul to raise taxes on the rich.

    Mr. Mamdani, a democratic socialist, wants to raise the city income tax rate to 5.88 percent from 3.88 percent for the roughly 34,000 households that earn more than $1 million per year. He has said that a family earning $1 million should pay an additional $20,000 in taxes, the equivalent of a 51 percent increase.

    The Democratic leaders of the State Senate and Assembly also want to raise taxes, but for residents who earn more than $5 million.

    Opposition to the proposals is not hard to find. Many wealthy New Yorkers fiercely opposed Mr. Mamdani in the mayor’s race, focusing on his background as a democratic socialist. The billionaires Bill Ackman and Ronald Lauder have raised concerns about his tax proposals.

    Steven Fulop, president of the Partnership for New York City, an influential business group, said that Mr. Mamdani’s tax plan could make the city less competitive.

    “New York is already highly taxed, and as costs rise some people will stay but others will shift growth elsewhere,” he said. “Because the city’s revenue is so concentrated, it doesn’t take many top employers or earners leaving to create real fiscal pressure.”

    Indeed, millionaires make up less than 1 percent of tax filers and pay about 37 percent of the city’s personal income taxes, according to the city’s Independent Budget Office.

    New York raised income taxes on the wealthy in 2021, and the mayor’s critics argue that the city’s taxes are already too oppressive. Mr. Mamdani has also called for raising the corporate tax rate, threatening to raise property taxes without new revenue.

    Thomas O’Mara, a Republican state senator who is on the Senate Finance Committee, said that Democrats were “out of control” and that the state had suffered because of their “never-ending search for higher revenue, higher taxes, higher fees” and more spending.

    “Once again we will see Governor Hochul compromise to the far left who have been pushing for higher taxes to politically benefit herself,” he said, adding that raising taxes would prompt people and businesses to leave the state.

    John Catsimatidis, the billionaire grocer, opposes Mr. Mamdani’s tax plan and said it would hurt the city’s economy, though he added that he personally would be fine.

    “I’m going to run out of time before I run out of money,” he said.

    Mr. Catsimatidis said that upper-middle-class residents might get fed up with higher taxes and leave the city, hurting both charity groups and nice restaurants.

    “I think it’s a stupid move,” he said. “The joke we tell is that New York politicians are the best real estate brokers in Florida — they really laugh at us.”

    Research, however, suggests that an exodus of wealthy New Yorkers is unlikely. When millionaires left New York in 2020 and 2021, studies found that they were motivated by the disruption caused by the pandemic, and the state has gained millionaires in recent years.

    “I can’t imagine anybody who has that kind of income would leave New York over a $20,000 tax increase,” Mr. Kaplan said. “It would mean absolutely nothing for me.”

    Marc Baum, a lawyer who lives in Manhattan, said that paying higher taxes would not cramp his lifestyle. He bought a brownstone in the West Village in the 1990s, has “two shacks in the Adirondacks” and tries to live frugally, driving his 2013 car “into the ground.”

    Would I give less to charity?” he said. “I don’t think so.”

    Mr. Baum is also a member of Patriotic Millionaires; its New York chapter includes Morris Pearl, a former managing director of BlackRock and Abigail Disney, an heir to the Disney fortune.

    Members often highlight the need for more services when the city’s income inequality has risen. New York City has the highest degree of income inequality among the nation’s 10 largest cities, according to an analysis by James Parrott, the director of economic and fiscal policy at the Center for New York City Affairs at the New School.

    Andrew Tobias, an author and one of the Patriotic Millionaires, said that he would gladly pay more “as long as everybody has to pay it.” He suggested that Mr. Mamdani find a way to show his appreciation to wealthy New Yorkers.

    You made $38 million this year — what a wonderful problem to have,” he said. “On top of that, you get a fruit basket from the mayor.”

    Mr. Tobias said that most wealthy residents would be fine, though he had empathy for a family that makes just above $1 million annually and has high expenses.

    “If you have a place in the Hamptons and three kids in private school, it’s probably tough to make ends meet,” he said. “There might be someone who has to sacrifice something.”

    Marissa Hersh, a member of Patriotic Millionaires who lives in Queens with two young children, said she would not be affected by Mr. Mamdani’s plan because she does not earn $1 million per year. But she comes from a wealthy family, and wants to pay more.

    Ms. Hersh, a philanthropic adviser to the Movement Voter Project, which raises money for progressive causes, said she supports Mr. Mamdani’s plan to create city-owned grocery stores.

    “We use the parks, the libraries and public 3-K,” she said. “We can afford to pay higher taxes, and I’d be happy to be the one to bear the burden, which really isn’t a burden.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/11/nyregion/nyc-tax-rich.html

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