Nassau Has Risen

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,804
    brianlux said:
    Our county has repeatedly elected a right wing nimrod to congress, but to be honest, not many people in neighboring Sacramento county (as in California's capital city as well) gives a shit.

    This doesn't mar nor diminish Mamdani's huge victory.  But nice try, I guess.
    Mamdami offered free things.  That is why he won.

    MAGAs win by offering billionaires more wealth the the end of freedom.  I'll go with Mamadani (and I don't get anything for free.  74, sketchy health, and still work when I can, however little that may be).
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,513
    edited November 6
    brianlux said:
    Our county has repeatedly elected a right wing nimrod to congress, but to be honest, not many people in neighboring Sacramento county (as in California's capital city as well) gives a shit.

    This doesn't mar nor diminish Mamdani's huge victory.  But nice try, I guess.
    Mamdami offered free things.  That is why he won.
    If taxpayer funded services are free things, then that means all politicians are offering free things. Republicans in the burbs won because they offered free public safety. 

    Sure, we could contend that the military and police are “free things” and socialistic but the purpose is all who can contribute do so , in order to live in a civil and stable society.


    playing around with the fundamentals of a capitalist and successful  real estate market is a slippery slope, and it didnt work out so well in the city’s past when similar ideas failed spectacularly.


    plus, what this dude says here is absolutely alarming. Real democrats should take note of every word he is saying here. Not the Democratic Party I know. Not the Democratic Party that used to win nationwide elections.


    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_-Cs-ON6xaw


    seizing the means of production.” That quote alone makes trump look honest on this topic.


     

    Post edited by Lerxst1992 on
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,689
    brianlux said:
    Our county has repeatedly elected a right wing nimrod to congress, but to be honest, not many people in neighboring Sacramento county (as in California's capital city as well) gives a shit.

    This doesn't mar nor diminish Mamdani's huge victory.  But nice try, I guess.
    Mamdami offered free things.  That is why he won.
    If taxpayer funded services are free things, then that means all politicians are offering free things. Republicans in the burbs won because they offered free public safety. 

    Sure, we could contend that the military and police are “free things” and socialistic but the purpose is all who can contribute do so , in order to live in a civil and stable society.


    playing around with the fundamentals of a capitalist and successful  real estate market is a slippery slope, and it didnt work out so well in the city’s past when similar ideas failed spectacularly.


    plus, what this dude says here is absolutely alarming. Real democrats should take note of every word he is saying here. Not the Democratic Party I know. Not the Democratic Party that used to win nationwide elections.


    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_-Cs-ON6xaw


    seizing the means of production.” That quote alone makes trump look honest on this topic.


     

    By right wing logic, those are free things. And how does seizing the means of production by a mayor play out in reality? 
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,960
    brianlux said:
    Our county has repeatedly elected a right wing nimrod to congress, but to be honest, not many people in neighboring Sacramento county (as in California's capital city as well) gives a shit.

    This doesn't mar nor diminish Mamdani's huge victory.  But nice try, I guess.
    Mamdami offered free things.  That is why he won.
    If taxpayer funded services are free things, then that means all politicians are offering free things. Republicans in the burbs won because they offered free public safety. 
    He literally said "free childcare and free busses". He offered FREE services.  These are services that the public currently pays for not our taxes.

    None of the other candidates offered these "free" services because of the cost it will take.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,960
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    Fun times, eh? And what did the cats do to earn such scorn? Oh right, turned all those grade school kids into mirror images of themselves so school budgets were devastated by the purchase of litter boxes and kitty litter. How could I forget such a divisive campaign issue? Sssssssssss, rearowe, ssssssssss!

    George Santos, the disgraced former Republican member of Congress recently released from jail after Trump commuted his seven year sentence, reserved his ire for Curtis Sliwa, the defeated Republican candidate in the New York mayor’s race, who won 7.1% of the vote and criticized by some for drawing support away from Mamdani’s main independent challenger, Andrew Cuomo.

    “Fuck you @CurtisSliwa. I HATE YOU, your dumb wife, that stupid Beret of yours and all your fucking cats!,” he wrote.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/05/mamdani-election-win-rightwing-republicans

    People have been leaving the city ever since the pandemic.  That is true.  They aren't leaving now because of Mamdani though, it's been happening.


    Suburban realtors have seen an increase in New York City buyers, often referred to as the "Mamdani effect," which has been driven by concerns over potential policy shifts following the NYC mayoral primary. This influx of buyers has led to a surge in demand and competitive bidding, particularly in areas like Westchester County and Connecticut. 
    • Increased demand: Real estate agents in the suburbs report a significant uptick in interest from NYC buyers, with some calling it a "steady rising market".
    • Motivation: Many buyers are motivated by potential changes in city policy related to taxes, public safety, and livability under the leading mayoral candidate.
    • Competitive market: This new demand has created a highly competitive environment, with homes receiving multiple offers and selling quickly, often at or above asking price.
    • Geographic focus: The trend is most evident in areas close to NYC, such as Westchester County, NY, and Greenwich, CT.
    • Data: County-wide data shows a substantial rise in contracts for single-family homes, especially for those priced over $1 million. 
    The 'Mamdani Effect': NYC's millionaires flee as Socialist surge ...
    Nov 2, 2025 — As New York City heads toward a pivotal mayoral election, unease among the city's wealthiest residents is reshaping the high-end housing landscape be...

    Meh. Realtors want to feed a political narrative with anecdotal evidence. The population of NYC has been increasing since the pandemic and rent it still out of hand.  
    Partially true.  Rent is out of control.  True.   Commercial buildings are empty.  True. Commercial buildings are being turned into residential. True.

    The increase in population has a lot to do with asylum seekers and not just natural migration.  People aren't moving here for affordability that's for sure.

    I do agree that realtors are feeding that statement w "mamdani effect.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,689
    brianlux said:
    Our county has repeatedly elected a right wing nimrod to congress, but to be honest, not many people in neighboring Sacramento county (as in California's capital city as well) gives a shit.

    This doesn't mar nor diminish Mamdani's huge victory.  But nice try, I guess.
    Mamdami offered free things.  That is why he won.
    If taxpayer funded services are free things, then that means all politicians are offering free things. Republicans in the burbs won because they offered free public safety. 
    He literally said "free childcare and free busses". He offered FREE services.  These are services that the public currently pays for not our taxes.

    None of the other candidates offered these "free" services because of the cost it will take.
    That it would be a new service is irrelevant to the claim that they’re free. It’s paid by taxpayers regardless of how a politician labels it. 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,804
    This seems fair to me.  In the late 6os/early 70, I Iived in San Francisco while working at a minimum wage job.  That's not possible today.  Doing things to make some of our cities affordable again seems like a great idea to me.  And feasible.

    Mamdani told CBS New New York back in September that he would pay for free buses, along with his other democratic socialist policies, in part, by increasing the corporate tax rate to 11.5% -- the same as New Jersey -- and instituting a flat 2% tax rate for individuals earning $1 million or more.

    "My vision for making the most expensive city in the United States of America affordable is actually one that benefits all of us," he said.




    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,960
    brianlux said:
    Our county has repeatedly elected a right wing nimrod to congress, but to be honest, not many people in neighboring Sacramento county (as in California's capital city as well) gives a shit.

    This doesn't mar nor diminish Mamdani's huge victory.  But nice try, I guess.
    Mamdami offered free things.  That is why he won.
    If taxpayer funded services are free things, then that means all politicians are offering free things. Republicans in the burbs won because they offered free public safety. 
    He literally said "free childcare and free busses". He offered FREE services.  These are services that the public currently pays for not our taxes.

    None of the other candidates offered these "free" services because of the cost it will take.
    That it would be a new service is irrelevant to the claim that they’re free. It’s paid by taxpayers regardless of how a politician labels it. 
    So back to why he won.  He offered "Free services". So it is actually relevant.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,960
    brianlux said:
    This seems fair to me.  In the late 6os/early 70, I Iived in San Francisco while working at a minimum wage job.  That's not possible today.  Doing things to make some of our cities affordable again seems like a great idea to me.  And feasible.

    Mamdani told CBS New New York back in September that he would pay for free buses, along with his other democratic socialist policies, in part, by increasing the corporate tax rate to 11.5% -- the same as New Jersey -- and instituting a flat 2% tax rate for individuals earning $1 million or more.

    "My vision for making the most expensive city in the United States of America affordable is actually one that benefits all of us," he said.




    I want it to work, I really do. Most of my work revolves around the pulse of the city.

    As long as corporations and those million dollar salaries don't leave then it's all good.  Time will tell.

    Trump will have a vested interest in making sure he succeeds too.  A thriving NYC is good for the rest of the country.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,689
    brianlux said:
    Our county has repeatedly elected a right wing nimrod to congress, but to be honest, not many people in neighboring Sacramento county (as in California's capital city as well) gives a shit.

    This doesn't mar nor diminish Mamdani's huge victory.  But nice try, I guess.
    Mamdami offered free things.  That is why he won.
    If taxpayer funded services are free things, then that means all politicians are offering free things. Republicans in the burbs won because they offered free public safety. 
    He literally said "free childcare and free busses". He offered FREE services.  These are services that the public currently pays for not our taxes.

    None of the other candidates offered these "free" services because of the cost it will take.
    That it would be a new service is irrelevant to the claim that they’re free. It’s paid by taxpayers regardless of how a politician labels it. 
    So back to why he won.  He offered "Free services". So it is actually relevant.
    The economic messaging is why he and the other dems won. His youthfulness and Cuomo being an old dried up perv also helped. The media is acting surprised because they created a false narrative around why Trump won, which was because of his economic messaging, and not because 7 years old were identifying as cats and pooping in litter boxes. Voters, particularly younger ones, figured out they got duped when Trump and republicans showed no interest in lowering costs. 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,804
    brianlux said:
    This seems fair to me.  In the late 6os/early 70, I Iived in San Francisco while working at a minimum wage job.  That's not possible today.  Doing things to make some of our cities affordable again seems like a great idea to me.  And feasible.

    Mamdani told CBS New New York back in September that he would pay for free buses, along with his other democratic socialist policies, in part, by increasing the corporate tax rate to 11.5% -- the same as New Jersey -- and instituting a flat 2% tax rate for individuals earning $1 million or more.

    "My vision for making the most expensive city in the United States of America affordable is actually one that benefits all of us," he said.




    I want it to work, I really do. Most of my work revolves around the pulse of the city.

    As long as corporations and those million dollar salaries don't leave then it's all good.  Time will tell.

    Trump will have a vested interest in making sure he succeeds too.  A thriving NYC is good for the rest of the country.

    We can certainly agree on one thing, my friend: The Greatest City in the World must stand strong!  I hope NYC can both strive and be affordable for  more than just the wealthy.  

    The 1980s San Francisco is a prime example.  Although I wasn't living in SF during that decade, I had friends who did.  1980s San Francisco (along with the 1950s) was one of the greatest decades in that fine town.  Culture was thriving, tourism was strong (maybe too strong in the most popular spots), jobs were plentiful, and there was still affordable housing available for the average person.  I would love to see Places like NYC and SF be strong in those ways again.  I may not see it happen, but I who knows?  Maybe! 
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,960
    brianlux said:
    Our county has repeatedly elected a right wing nimrod to congress, but to be honest, not many people in neighboring Sacramento county (as in California's capital city as well) gives a shit.

    This doesn't mar nor diminish Mamdani's huge victory.  But nice try, I guess.
    Mamdami offered free things.  That is why he won.
    If taxpayer funded services are free things, then that means all politicians are offering free things. Republicans in the burbs won because they offered free public safety. 
    He literally said "free childcare and free busses". He offered FREE services.  These are services that the public currently pays for not our taxes.

    None of the other candidates offered these "free" services because of the cost it will take.
    That it would be a new service is irrelevant to the claim that they’re free. It’s paid by taxpayers regardless of how a politician labels it. 
    So back to why he won.  He offered "Free services". So it is actually relevant.
    The economic messaging is why he and the other dems won. His youthfulness and Cuomo being an old dried up perv also helped. The media is acting surprised because they created a false narrative around why Trump won, which was because of his economic messaging, and not because 7 years old were identifying as cats and pooping in litter boxes. Voters, particularly younger ones, figured out they got duped when Trump and republicans showed no interest in lowering costs. 
    He was the only one that preached free stuff.  The other candidates all said the same things including Mandamdi, affordable housing increased, raising minimum wage.

    If economic messaging is what got him voted then explain Long Island for me.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,960
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    This seems fair to me.  In the late 6os/early 70, I Iived in San Francisco while working at a minimum wage job.  That's not possible today.  Doing things to make some of our cities affordable again seems like a great idea to me.  And feasible.

    Mamdani told CBS New New York back in September that he would pay for free buses, along with his other democratic socialist policies, in part, by increasing the corporate tax rate to 11.5% -- the same as New Jersey -- and instituting a flat 2% tax rate for individuals earning $1 million or more.

    "My vision for making the most expensive city in the United States of America affordable is actually one that benefits all of us," he said.




    I want it to work, I really do. Most of my work revolves around the pulse of the city.

    As long as corporations and those million dollar salaries don't leave then it's all good.  Time will tell.

    Trump will have a vested interest in making sure he succeeds too.  A thriving NYC is good for the rest of the country.

    We can certainly agree on one thing, my friend: The Greatest City in the World must stand strong!  I hope NYC can both strive and be affordable for  more than just the wealthy.  

    The 1980s San Francisco is a prime example.  Although I wasn't living in SF during that decade, I had friends who did.  1980s San Francisco (along with the 1950s) was one of the greatest decades in that fine town.  Culture was thriving, tourism was strong (maybe too strong in the most popular spots), jobs were plentiful, and there was still affordable housing available for the average person.  I would love to see Places like NYC and SF be strong in those ways again.  I may not see it happen, but I who knows?  Maybe! 
    Never gonna happen... Prices go up.  The clocks don't get turned back unfortunately.

    I always think of Patti Smiths book Just Kids and how they lived in the Chelsea hotel scraping by menial jobs.

    You can't do that these days. You need 5 of you in a studio to do that.

    I think it was Decline of Western Civilization where the addicts and the punks rented "cubby holes" in a building for like $50 a month.

    Maybe Detroit it's possible? That place turned back time or so it seems.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,689
    brianlux said:
    Our county has repeatedly elected a right wing nimrod to congress, but to be honest, not many people in neighboring Sacramento county (as in California's capital city as well) gives a shit.

    This doesn't mar nor diminish Mamdani's huge victory.  But nice try, I guess.
    Mamdami offered free things.  That is why he won.
    If taxpayer funded services are free things, then that means all politicians are offering free things. Republicans in the burbs won because they offered free public safety. 
    He literally said "free childcare and free busses". He offered FREE services.  These are services that the public currently pays for not our taxes.

    None of the other candidates offered these "free" services because of the cost it will take.
    That it would be a new service is irrelevant to the claim that they’re free. It’s paid by taxpayers regardless of how a politician labels it. 
    So back to why he won.  He offered "Free services". So it is actually relevant.
    The economic messaging is why he and the other dems won. His youthfulness and Cuomo being an old dried up perv also helped. The media is acting surprised because they created a false narrative around why Trump won, which was because of his economic messaging, and not because 7 years old were identifying as cats and pooping in litter boxes. Voters, particularly younger ones, figured out they got duped when Trump and republicans showed no interest in lowering costs. 
    He was the only one that preached free stuff.  The other candidates all said the same things including Mandamdi, affordable housing increased, raising minimum wage.

    If economic messaging is what got him voted then explain Long Island for me.
    I would imagine the economic messaging from the republicans was more appealing than the opponents. 
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,513
    brianlux said:
    Our county has repeatedly elected a right wing nimrod to congress, but to be honest, not many people in neighboring Sacramento county (as in California's capital city as well) gives a shit.

    This doesn't mar nor diminish Mamdani's huge victory.  But nice try, I guess.
    Mamdami offered free things.  That is why he won.
    If taxpayer funded services are free things, then that means all politicians are offering free things. Republicans in the burbs won because they offered free public safety. 
    He literally said "free childcare and free busses". He offered FREE services.  These are services that the public currently pays for not our taxes.

    None of the other candidates offered these "free" services because of the cost it will take.
    That it would be a new service is irrelevant to the claim that they’re free. It’s paid by taxpayers regardless of how a politician labels it. 
    So back to why he won.  He offered "Free services". So it is actually relevant.
    The economic messaging is why he and the other dems won. His youthfulness and Cuomo being an old dried up perv also helped. The media is acting surprised because they created a false narrative around why Trump won, which was because of his economic messaging, and not because 7 years old were identifying as cats and pooping in litter boxes. Voters, particularly younger ones, figured out they got duped when Trump and republicans showed no interest in lowering costs. 
    He was the only one that preached free stuff.  The other candidates all said the same things including Mandamdi, affordable housing increased, raising minimum wage.

    If economic messaging is what got him voted then explain Long Island for me.
    I would imagine the economic messaging from the republicans was more appealing than the opponents. 


    The weird thing about mamdani is that it’s masking the problem Dems are facing in NY. This state is slowly turning more red. Democrats are less competitive in many areas compared to ten or 20 years ago

    Hochul only won by six points. Democratic presidential candidates used to win here 63-37. Last year it was 56-43.
    LI and other suburbs used to be competitive for Dems. Now they get annihilated in the burbs.


  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,804
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    This seems fair to me.  In the late 6os/early 70, I Iived in San Francisco while working at a minimum wage job.  That's not possible today.  Doing things to make some of our cities affordable again seems like a great idea to me.  And feasible.

    Mamdani told CBS New New York back in September that he would pay for free buses, along with his other democratic socialist policies, in part, by increasing the corporate tax rate to 11.5% -- the same as New Jersey -- and instituting a flat 2% tax rate for individuals earning $1 million or more.

    "My vision for making the most expensive city in the United States of America affordable is actually one that benefits all of us," he said.




    I want it to work, I really do. Most of my work revolves around the pulse of the city.

    As long as corporations and those million dollar salaries don't leave then it's all good.  Time will tell.

    Trump will have a vested interest in making sure he succeeds too.  A thriving NYC is good for the rest of the country.

    We can certainly agree on one thing, my friend: The Greatest City in the World must stand strong!  I hope NYC can both strive and be affordable for  more than just the wealthy.  

    The 1980s San Francisco is a prime example.  Although I wasn't living in SF during that decade, I had friends who did.  1980s San Francisco (along with the 1950s) was one of the greatest decades in that fine town.  Culture was thriving, tourism was strong (maybe too strong in the most popular spots), jobs were plentiful, and there was still affordable housing available for the average person.  I would love to see Places like NYC and SF be strong in those ways again.  I may not see it happen, but I who knows?  Maybe! 
    Never gonna happen... Prices go up.  The clocks don't get turned back unfortunately.

    I always think of Patti Smiths book Just Kids and how they lived in the Chelsea hotel scraping by menial jobs.

    You can't do that these days. You need 5 of you in a studio to do that.

    I think it was Decline of Western Civilization where the addicts and the punks rented "cubby holes" in a building for like $50 a month.

    Maybe Detroit it's possible? That place turned back time or so it seems.

    Detroit's actually gotten gentrified.  I know people who live their.  Out of my price range!

    No interest in going back in time.  I might be a bit sentimental now and then about the past, but Thomas Wolfe had it right.  You can't...
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,960
    brianlux said:
    Our county has repeatedly elected a right wing nimrod to congress, but to be honest, not many people in neighboring Sacramento county (as in California's capital city as well) gives a shit.

    This doesn't mar nor diminish Mamdani's huge victory.  But nice try, I guess.
    Mamdami offered free things.  That is why he won.
    If taxpayer funded services are free things, then that means all politicians are offering free things. Republicans in the burbs won because they offered free public safety. 
    He literally said "free childcare and free busses". He offered FREE services.  These are services that the public currently pays for not our taxes.

    None of the other candidates offered these "free" services because of the cost it will take.
    That it would be a new service is irrelevant to the claim that they’re free. It’s paid by taxpayers regardless of how a politician labels it. 
    So back to why he won.  He offered "Free services". So it is actually relevant.
    The economic messaging is why he and the other dems won. His youthfulness and Cuomo being an old dried up perv also helped. The media is acting surprised because they created a false narrative around why Trump won, which was because of his economic messaging, and not because 7 years old were identifying as cats and pooping in litter boxes. Voters, particularly younger ones, figured out they got duped when Trump and republicans showed no interest in lowering costs. 
    He was the only one that preached free stuff.  The other candidates all said the same things including Mandamdi, affordable housing increased, raising minimum wage.

    If economic messaging is what got him voted then explain Long Island for me.
    I would imagine the economic messaging from the republicans was more appealing than the opponents. 


    The weird thing about mamdani is that it’s masking the problem Dems are facing in NY. This state is slowly turning more red. Democrats are less competitive in many areas compared to ten or 20 years ago

    Hochul only won by six points. Democratic presidential candidates used to win here 63-37. Last year it was 56-43.
    LI and other suburbs used to be competitive for Dems. Now they get annihilated in the burbs.


    Blakeman is going to be the next Governor.
  • eddiec
    eddiec Posts: 3,970
    Do the Nassau Islander fans still rock their white sneakers to the games?
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,199
    eddiec said:
    Do the Nassau Islander fans still rock their white sneakers to the games?
    😂😂 never heard of that even though we are not Manhattan they are named NY Islanders 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • eddiec
    eddiec Posts: 3,970
    eddiec said:
    Do the Nassau Islander fans still rock their white sneakers to the games?
    😂😂 never heard of that even though we are not Manhattan they are named NY Islanders 

    I know, just messin'.