The Levant aka Mid-East

mickeyrat

https://www.britannica.com/place/Levant

Levant, (from the French lever, “to rise,” as in sunrise, meaning the east), historically, the region along the eastern Mediterranean shores, roughly corresponding to modern-day Israel, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, and certain adjacent areas. Common use of the term is associated with Venetian and other trading ventures and the establishment of commerce with cities such as Tyre and Sidon as a result of the Crusades. It was applied to the coastlands of Asia Minor and Syria, sometimes extending from Greece to Egypt. It was also used for Anatolia and as a synonym for the Middle East or Near East. In the 16th and 17th centuries the term High Levant referred to the Far East. The name Levant States was given to the French mandate of Syria and Lebanon after World War I, and the term is sometimes still used for those two countries, which became independent in 1946. A similar term, Al-Mashriq (“Where the Sun Rises”), exists in Arabic, although this term refers to a broader geographic region.

mickeyrat

Visual evidence upends Israel’s official story for deadly attack on Gaza hospital - https://www.reuters.com/investigations/visual-evidence-upends-israels-official-story-deadly-attack-gaza-hospital-2025-09-26/

DE4173

Halifax2TheMax

DE4173 said:

* The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

Hey! Guess what? It’s only 30 and fuck them all. Now do the repubs, please?

DarthMaeglin

This opinion piece makes a pretty clear case for the designation of newly-recognized Palestine as a state sponsor of terrorism. I’ve seen it recently reported that the “pay-for-slay” program remains active under the Palestinian Authority.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/kinsella-palestine-clearly-sponsors-terrorism-will-carney-acknowledge-that?itm_source=index

mickeyrat

https://youtu.be/0_Bwix9IjOE?si=LXZsY_vR_Nxo9c7p

mickeyrat

DarthMaeglin said:

This opinion piece makes a pretty clear case for the designation of newly-recognized Palestine as a state sponsor of terrorism. I’ve seen it recently reported that the “pay-for-slay” program remains active under the Palestinian Authority.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/kinsella-palestine-clearly-sponsors-terrorism-will-carney-acknowledge-that?itm_source=index

describes Iraeli government to a t

“Terrorism,” in Canada’s Criminal Code, is defined as doing something for “a political, religious or ideological purpose, objective or cause,” or doing it with the intention of intimidating people — and/or causing death or injury or property damage. Canadians don’t need to be the terrorist’s targets.

DarthMaeglin

mickeyrat said:

DarthMaeglin said:

This opinion piece makes a pretty clear case for the designation of newly-recognized Palestine as a state sponsor of terrorism. I’ve seen it recently reported that the “pay-for-slay” program remains active under the Palestinian Authority.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/kinsella-palestine-clearly-sponsors-terrorism-will-carney-acknowledge-that?itm_source=index

describes Iraeli government to a t

“Terrorism,” in Canada’s Criminal Code, is defined as doing something for “a political, religious or ideological purpose, objective or cause,” or doing it with the intention of intimidating people — and/or causing death or injury or property damage. Canadians don’t need to be the terrorist’s targets.

Does Palestine meet the definition as well? I can see a case for your suggestion, though there’s nothing as egregious as the “pay-for-slay” scheme.

mickeyrat

DarthMaeglin said:

mickeyrat said:

DarthMaeglin said:

This opinion piece makes a pretty clear case for the designation of newly-recognized Palestine as a state sponsor of terrorism. I’ve seen it recently reported that the “pay-for-slay” program remains active under the Palestinian Authority.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/kinsella-palestine-clearly-sponsors-terrorism-will-carney-acknowledge-that?itm_source=index

describes Iraeli government to a t

“Terrorism,” in Canada’s Criminal Code, is defined as doing something for “a political, religious or ideological purpose, objective or cause,” or doing it with the intention of intimidating people — and/or causing death or injury or property damage. Canadians don’t need to be the terrorist’s targets.

Does Palestine meet the definition as well? I can see a case for your suggestion, though there’s nothing as egregious as the “pay-for-slay” scheme.

might readily apply the illegal settlements,  the outposts to this. 

mickeyrat

important to note this is an opinion piece. 

but a paragraph sparks a longstanding question I have for one poster here who refuses to answer the simple yes/no I posed. 

so for you I ask the same, do you equate all Palestinians with Hamas?

DarthMaeglin

mickeyrat said:

important to note this is an opinion piece. 

but a paragraph sparks a longstanding question I have for one poster here who refuses to answer the simple yes/no I posed. 

so for you I ask the same, do you equate all Palestinians with Hamas?

I don’t personally, however Hamas remains the “government” of Gaza and therefore has a responsibility to its citizens, one they are flagrantly disregarding in my opinion.

Having answered your question, could you please answer mine regarding Palestine being a state sponsor of terrorism? Seems fair, lol.

HughFreakingDillon

Strombo speaks up about Kneecap being banned from Canada for speaking up about the horrors in Gaza

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1BBpQDizhg/?mibextid=wwXIfr

mickeyrat

Trump secures Netanyahu's agreement to Gaza peace proposal, but doubts remain - https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-forces-advance-ahead-trump-netanyahu-gaza-war-talks-2025-09-29/

mickeyrat

DarthMaeglin said:

mickeyrat said:

important to note this is an opinion piece. 

but a paragraph sparks a longstanding question I have for one poster here who refuses to answer the simple yes/no I posed. 

so for you I ask the same, do you equate all Palestinians with Hamas?

I don’t personally, however Hamas remains the “government” of Gaza and therefore has a responsibility to its citizens, one they are flagrantly disregarding in my opinion.

Having answered your question, could you please answer mine regarding Palestine being a state sponsor of terrorism? Seems fair, lol.

I would argue no , at this time. The author offered up no citations or examples that would constitute "pay to slay", second becuse the government entities are fractured and elections controlled by idf.

this paragraph is why I come that conclusion for now.

It can’t be argued the payments are benign, like mere welfare payments: They are literally determined by the length of the terrorist’s sentence. The bloodier the terrorism, the more Abbas’ Palestinian Authority pays them.

It CAN be argued as such ,  given the state of israels court system(military) with regards to Palestinians on trial. 

DarthMaeglin

mickeyrat said:

DarthMaeglin said:

mickeyrat said:

important to note this is an opinion piece. 

but a paragraph sparks a longstanding question I have for one poster here who refuses to answer the simple yes/no I posed. 

so for you I ask the same, do you equate all Palestinians with Hamas?

I don’t personally, however Hamas remains the “government” of Gaza and therefore has a responsibility to its citizens, one they are flagrantly disregarding in my opinion.

Having answered your question, could you please answer mine regarding Palestine being a state sponsor of terrorism? Seems fair, lol.

I would argue no , at this time. The author offered up no citations or examples that would constitute "pay to slay", second becuse the government entities are fractured and elections controlled by idf.

this paragraph is why I come that conclusion for now.

It can’t be argued the payments are benign, like mere welfare payments: They are literally determined by the length of the terrorist’s sentence. The bloodier the terrorism, the more Abbas’ Palestinian Authority pays them.

It CAN be argued as such ,  given the state of israels court system(military) with regards to Palestinians on trial. 

Kinsella is a respected journalist and I was pretty sure he wouldn’t make such a claim spuriously. It seems to be generally accepted that the program existed as described and appears to have been stopped, though there seems to be an argument that it continues. To be fair though, officially the payments are currently disbursed as welfare payments. And Kinsella could have included that information beyond the one unclear reference (though his editor may be at fault instead, lol).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Authority_Martyrs_Fund

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2025/2/10/pas-abbas-overhauls-payments-for-families-of-slain-and-jailed-palestinians

https://www.memri.org/reports/palestinian-authority-has-not-stopped-its-pay-slay-prisoners-and-families-martyrs

Presently half the State of Palestine is “governed” by Hamas which is undeniably a terrorist organization, which (for me) only strengthens the case for state-sponsored terrorism.

mickeyrat

DarthMaeglin said:

mickeyrat said:

DarthMaeglin said:

mickeyrat said:

important to note this is an opinion piece. 

but a paragraph sparks a longstanding question I have for one poster here who refuses to answer the simple yes/no I posed. 

so for you I ask the same, do you equate all Palestinians with Hamas?

I don’t personally, however Hamas remains the “government” of Gaza and therefore has a responsibility to its citizens, one they are flagrantly disregarding in my opinion.

Having answered your question, could you please answer mine regarding Palestine being a state sponsor of terrorism? Seems fair, lol.

I would argue no , at this time. The author offered up no citations or examples that would constitute "pay to slay", second becuse the government entities are fractured and elections controlled by idf.

this paragraph is why I come that conclusion for now.

It can’t be argued the payments are benign, like mere welfare payments: They are literally determined by the length of the terrorist’s sentence. The bloodier the terrorism, the more Abbas’ Palestinian Authority pays them.

It CAN be argued as such ,  given the state of israels court system(military) with regards to Palestinians on trial. 

Kinsella is a respected journalist and I was pretty sure he wouldn’t make such a claim spuriously. It seems to be generally accepted that the program existed as described and appears to have been stopped, though there seems to be an argument that it continues. To be fair though, officially the payments are currently disbursed as welfare payments. And Kinsella could have included that information beyond the one unclear reference (though his editor may be at fault instead, lol).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Authority_Martyrs_Fund

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2025/2/10/pas-abbas-overhauls-payments-for-families-of-slain-and-jailed-palestinians

https://www.memri.org/reports/palestinian-authority-has-not-stopped-its-pay-slay-prisoners-and-families-martyrs

Presently half the State of Palestine is “governed” by Hamas which is undeniably a terrorist organization, which (for me) only strengthens the case for state-sponsored terrorism.

one which has 2 arms. the "governing" body and its militant arm. 

much like the Irish. 

so a more basic question to be answered then imo is just what do oppressed peoples do in the face of the oppression?

Palestine as a "Nation" has no formal military, is forced to adhere to its oppressors military demands i.e. checkpoints etc...Cannot freely engage on trade woth other nations or do much of anything a Nation-State can and should do for its citizens.

mickeyrat

Halifax2TheMax

* The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

TACO strikes again. The 20 points of peas and carrots required agreement by Hamas within 72 hours of Israeli acceptance. They accepted it yesterday. The Fart of the Deal. Give him a Nobel for trying.

Trump gives Hamas ‘three or four days’ to respond to his peace plan for Gaza

US president warns militant group will ‘pay in hell’ if it rejects the deal, which seeks to end two-year-long war

Donald Trump has given Hamas an ultimatum of “three or four days” to respond to his proposed peace and reconstruction plan in Gaza, warning the militant group would “pay in hell” if it rejects the deal, as the Israeli offensive continued, inflicting further civilian casualties.

Trump’s proposal was announced in a joint press conference in Washington with Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, and seeks a definitive end to the relentless two-year-long war. At least 31 Palestinians were killed across Gaza on Tuesday, local hospitals said.

Asked how long Hamas had to respond, Trump said on Tuesday: “We’re going to do about three or four days.” He later warned that Hamas would face severe consequences if they refused.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/30/hamas-mulls-options-as-countries-rush-to-welcome-trump-gaza-peace-plan

mickeyrat

https://thehill.com/policy/international/5527325-netanyahu-apologizes-qatar-strike/?fbclid=Iwb21leANJW59jbGNrA0lbnWV4dG4DYWVtAjExAAEex4bmd_suDq9JZL7S-SBEbg74KSrieUeGmnGmCX9mIHArnC_vOPvnehhSFhI_aem_bfuhVvxDAnmACIrrRFJxcg

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu apologized to Qatari Prime Minister Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdulrahman Al Thani on Monday for the Israeli strikes on Doha that killed a Qatari service member and violated Qatari sovereignty.

In a call organized by President Trump, Netanyahu also said such a strike would not happen again.

Trump hosted Netanyahu for an Oval Office meeting, during which he held a trilateral call with Sheikh Mohammed where Trump “expressed his desire to put Israeli-Qatar relations on a positive track after years of mutual grievances and miscommunications.”

During the call, which the White House described as a first step toward relations, Netanyahu “expressed his deep regret that Israel’s missile strike against Hamas targets in Qatar unintentionally killed a Qatari serviceman.”

continues....

Halifax2TheMax

mickeyrat said:

https://thehill.com/policy/international/5527325-netanyahu-apologizes-qatar-strike/?fbclid=Iwb21leANJW59jbGNrA0lbnWV4dG4DYWVtAjExAAEex4bmd_suDq9JZL7S-SBEbg74KSrieUeGmnGmCX9mIHArnC_vOPvnehhSFhI_aem_bfuhVvxDAnmACIrrRFJxcg

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu apologized to Qatari Prime Minister Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdulrahman Al Thani on Monday for the Israeli strikes on Doha that killed a Qatari service member and violated Qatari sovereignty.

In a call organized by President Trump, Netanyahu also said such a strike would not happen again.

Trump hosted Netanyahu for an Oval Office meeting, during which he held a trilateral call with Sheikh Mohammed where Trump “expressed his desire to put Israeli-Qatar relations on a positive track after years of mutual grievances and miscommunications.”

During the call, which the White House described as a first step toward relations, Netanyahu “expressed his deep regret that Israel’s missile strike against Hamas targets in Qatar unintentionally killed a Qatari serviceman.”

continues....

  * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

Did you see Bibi the butcher’s face when CCOOTWH was on the phone? CCOOTWH looked like what he thought was a POTUS, strong man look while Bibi the Butcher looked aghast and wanted to crawl back under the rock from whence he came.

Lerxst1992

Gotta love the result of identity politics.

“An assailant drove a car into people outside the Heaton Park Hebrew Congregation Synagogue and then began stabbing them.  

• The attack occurred on Yom Kippur, the holiest day in the Jewish calendar.  

• Two people were killed, and three others were seriously wounded.  

• Police firearms officers shot and killed the suspect at the scene.  

• A bomb disposal unit was deployed to the scene due to initial concerns about suspicious items on the suspect.