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  • shadowcast
    shadowcast Posts: 2,384
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    pssst...read it again. not just the headline. pssst. 
    It's ok we all get fooled. I was fooled about "Climate Change" but the war on carbon is just silly. WHat Gates is doing is he's pivoting to AI becasue that is coming not climate change. What does AI need? Energy. These super quantum computers need a lot of energy to run. He's going where the money is. He's liar. Its ok to say you were wrong about climate change. A lot of people were and still are.  
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Posts: 40,220
    shadowcast said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    pssst...read it again. not just the headline. pssst. 
    It's ok we all get fooled. I was fooled about "Climate Change" but the war on carbon is just silly. WHat Gates is doing is he's pivoting to AI becasue that is coming not climate change. What does AI need? Energy. These super quantum computers need a lot of energy to run. He's going where the money is. He's liar. Its ok to say you were wrong about climate change. A lot of people were and still are.  
    there should be a cognitive exam for voting. 
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  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 3,349
    shadowcast said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    pssst...read it again. not just the headline. pssst. 
    It's ok we all get fooled. I was fooled about "Climate Change" but the war on carbon is just silly. WHat Gates is doing is he's pivoting to AI becasue that is coming not climate change. What does AI need? Energy. These super quantum computers need a lot of energy to run. He's going where the money is. He's liar. Its ok to say you were wrong about climate change. A lot of people were and still are.  

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    shadowcast said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    pssst...read it again. not just the headline. pssst. 
    It's ok we all get fooled. I was fooled about "Climate Change" but the war on carbon is just silly. WHat Gates is doing is he's pivoting to AI becasue that is coming not climate change. What does AI need? Energy. These super quantum computers need a lot of energy to run. He's going where the money is. He's liar. Its ok to say you were wrong about climate change. A lot of people were and still are.  
    “Despite his efforts to make clear that he takes climate change seriously, his words are bound to be misused by those who would like nothing more than to destroy efforts to deal with climate change,” Dr. Oppenheimer said in an email.

    got that right...

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  • nicknyr15
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    shadowcast said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    pssst...read it again. not just the headline. pssst. 
    It's ok we all get fooled. I was fooled about "Climate Change" but the war on carbon is just silly. WHat Gates is doing is he's pivoting to AI becasue that is coming not climate change. What does AI need? Energy. These super quantum computers need a lot of energy to run. He's going where the money is. He's liar. Its ok to say you were wrong about climate change. A lot of people were and still are.  
    there should be a cognitive exam for voting. 
    But no ID 
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,397
    correct
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,397
    Look guys, maybe its time start to getting older and wiser and start asking more questions. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Posts: 40,220
    nicknyr15 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    shadowcast said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    pssst...read it again. not just the headline. pssst. 
    It's ok we all get fooled. I was fooled about "Climate Change" but the war on carbon is just silly. WHat Gates is doing is he's pivoting to AI becasue that is coming not climate change. What does AI need? Energy. These super quantum computers need a lot of energy to run. He's going where the money is. He's liar. Its ok to say you were wrong about climate change. A lot of people were and still are.  
    there should be a cognitive exam for voting. 
    But no ID 
    Tim Simmons said:
    correct
    we have ID requirements. I honestly have no idea why that's a problem in your country. 
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  • Vitalogensia
    Vitalogensia Posts: 2,259
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    shadowcast said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    pssst...read it again. not just the headline. pssst. 
    It's ok we all get fooled. I was fooled about "Climate Change" but the war on carbon is just silly. WHat Gates is doing is he's pivoting to AI becasue that is coming not climate change. What does AI need? Energy. These super quantum computers need a lot of energy to run. He's going where the money is. He's liar. Its ok to say you were wrong about climate change. A lot of people were and still are.  
    there should be a cognitive exam for voting. 
    But no ID 
    Tim Simmons said:
    correct
    we have ID requirements. I honestly have no idea why that's a problem in your country. 
    In theory it makes sense, but in American practice it’s more tricky. The short of it is that the GOP makes things more difficult to vote as they know their policies are not particularly popular on the whole, but especially for those populations they don’t want to vote. And organizations from the American Bar Association to the Brennan Center acknowledge these hurdles. From the latter: “As many as 11 percent of eligible voters do not have the kind of ID that is required by states with strict ID requirements, and that percentage is even higher among seniors, minorities, people with disabilities, low-income voters, and students. 

    Many citizens find it difficult to obtain government photo IDs because the necessary documentation, such as a birth certificate, is often difficult or expensive to acquire.”

    https://www.brennancenter.org/issues/ensure-every-american-can-vote/vote-suppression/voter-id


  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,397
    edited October 30
    I mean, if we want to hand out free IDs with all the major hurdles eliminated (cost, transporting people to get them, off hours so people can get them on days off or non-work hours, SS cards, Passports, birth certificates, marriage certificate, etc), I'm fine with that. Make it a thing. 

    if its basically needing a passport or a drivers license, its suspect what you are trying to do. Theres more disenfranchisement than there is voter fraud.
     

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 51,008
    edited October 30
    So the most logical solution would be to offer a piece of government ID, either at the state level or federal level, for free. For cases where there is literally no way to prove someone is who they say they are, well, that's just tough shit, no?? That would be SOOOOO much easier and cheaper than the BS going on now in the US. To allow someone to vote without any ID is absolute lunacy, so that's no solution.  
    It's fucking ridiculous that the US government can't figure this out. And it can't just be blamed on the GOP. The Democrats have had opportunities in the past to make it work, and they never bothered. 
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,397
    edited October 30
    .

    Post edited by Tim Simmons on
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Posts: 40,220
    PJ_Soul said:
    So the most logical solution would be to offer a piece of government ID, either at the state level or federal level, for free. For cases where there is literally no way to prove someone is who they say they are, well, that's just tough shit, no?? That would be SOOOOO much easier and cheaper than the BS going on now in the US. To allow someone to vote without any ID is absolute lunacy, so that's no solution.  
    It's fucking ridiculous that the US government can't figure this out. And it can't just be blamed on the GOP. The Democrats have had opportunities in the past to make it work, and they never bothered. 
    but the problem is the feds can't mandate something in elections where the states make their own rules. It's not like it is in Canada, where things make sense. lol

    GOP states don't want people to vote, so they ain't giving out free ID so they can lose elections. 
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  • Vitalogensia
    Vitalogensia Posts: 2,259
    edited October 31
    I hear both of those arguments.  I agree that the Dems could fight more, and harder, but they can't simply make it happen.  Take situations like giving statehood to DC and Puerto Rico.  Truthfully, I haven't done the reading to see if there's a good argument one way or the other for either, but basically the GOP response has been a resounding "All those people will just vote Democrat, so no."  Theoretically they could try to court those voters (zero surprise they wouldn't, if you think of who lives in these areas), and maybe one day they will - and then want them to have statehood -, but at the moment the GOP will only make voting more difficult for the foreseeable future.  This has been a strategy of theirs for decades.
    Post edited by Vitalogensia on
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,397
    Progress is slow and change is hard. We have to keep forging forward. 
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,556
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    So the most logical solution would be to offer a piece of government ID, either at the state level or federal level, for free. For cases where there is literally no way to prove someone is who they say they are, well, that's just tough shit, no?? That would be SOOOOO much easier and cheaper than the BS going on now in the US. To allow someone to vote without any ID is absolute lunacy, so that's no solution.  
    It's fucking ridiculous that the US government can't figure this out. And it can't just be blamed on the GOP. The Democrats have had opportunities in the past to make it work, and they never bothered. 
    but the problem is the feds can't mandate something in elections where the states make their own rules. It's not like it is in Canada, where things make sense. lol

    GOP states don't want people to vote, so they ain't giving out free ID so they can lose elections. 

    Well give some credit for the US being the original modern democracy. Without it, doubtful our northern neighbors would be loling so much.
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,556
    edited October 31
    PJ_Soul said:
    So the most logical solution would be to offer a piece of government ID, either at the state level or federal level, for free. For cases where there is literally no way to prove someone is who they say they are, well, that's just tough shit, no?? That would be SOOOOO much easier and cheaper than the BS going on now in the US. To allow someone to vote without any ID is absolute lunacy, so that's no solution.  
    It's fucking ridiculous that the US government can't figure this out. And it can't just be blamed on the GOP. The Democrats have had opportunities in the past to make it work, and they never bothered. 

    It’s incorrect to cite “the US government” as that entity does not run elections.

    Voter IDs are typically used by republican states (edit, and swing states that are typically run by republican legislators) to make voting for poor people more difficult, since they are more often hourly workers that do not get paid for time outside work, and more likely to not have their own cars, making registration for accepted IDs more time consuming and difficult.

    the R states take this much further at times, by allowing beneficial IDs such as military or gun registration and prohibiting items such as college IDs.

    itd be nice to change this to operate more fairly, but Dems have been losing the majority of state and local elections for decades, because Dems only show up in numbers when Bill Clinton or Obama runs, outside of that one Biden win when they allowed many mail in ballots. Elections are state and local. Need to win those elections to make the rules.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Posts: 40,220
    Lerxst1992 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    So the most logical solution would be to offer a piece of government ID, either at the state level or federal level, for free. For cases where there is literally no way to prove someone is who they say they are, well, that's just tough shit, no?? That would be SOOOOO much easier and cheaper than the BS going on now in the US. To allow someone to vote without any ID is absolute lunacy, so that's no solution.  
    It's fucking ridiculous that the US government can't figure this out. And it can't just be blamed on the GOP. The Democrats have had opportunities in the past to make it work, and they never bothered. 
    but the problem is the feds can't mandate something in elections where the states make their own rules. It's not like it is in Canada, where things make sense. lol

    GOP states don't want people to vote, so they ain't giving out free ID so they can lose elections. 

    Well give some credit for the US being the original modern democracy. Without it, doubtful our northern neighbors would be loling so much.
    yes, yes, we know. we'd all still be slaving away in the muds pits of York had it not been for american ingenuity. hahaha
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Posts: 40,220
    Lerxst1992 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    So the most logical solution would be to offer a piece of government ID, either at the state level or federal level, for free. For cases where there is literally no way to prove someone is who they say they are, well, that's just tough shit, no?? That would be SOOOOO much easier and cheaper than the BS going on now in the US. To allow someone to vote without any ID is absolute lunacy, so that's no solution.  
    It's fucking ridiculous that the US government can't figure this out. And it can't just be blamed on the GOP. The Democrats have had opportunities in the past to make it work, and they never bothered. 

    It’s incorrect to cite “the US government” as that entity does not run elections.

    Voter IDs are typically used by republican states (edit, and swing states that are typically run by republican legislators) to make voting for poor people more difficult, since they are more often hourly workers that do not get paid for time outside work, and more likely to not have their own cars, making registration for accepted IDs more time consuming and difficult.

    the R states take this much further at times, by allowing beneficial IDs such as military or gun registration and prohibiting items such as college IDs.

    itd be nice to change this to operate more fairly, but Dems have been losing the majority of state and local elections for decades, because Dems only show up in numbers when Bill Clinton or Obama runs, outside of that one Biden win when they allowed many mail in ballots. Elections are state and local. Need to win those elections to make the rules.
    she never said the US government runs elections. 
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,556
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    So the most logical solution would be to offer a piece of government ID, either at the state level or federal level, for free. For cases where there is literally no way to prove someone is who they say they are, well, that's just tough shit, no?? That would be SOOOOO much easier and cheaper than the BS going on now in the US. To allow someone to vote without any ID is absolute lunacy, so that's no solution.  
    It's fucking ridiculous that the US government can't figure this out. And it can't just be blamed on the GOP. The Democrats have had opportunities in the past to make it work, and they never bothered. 
    but the problem is the feds can't mandate something in elections where the states make their own rules. It's not like it is in Canada, where things make sense. lol

    GOP states don't want people to vote, so they ain't giving out free ID so they can lose elections. 

    Well give some credit for the US being the original modern democracy. Without it, doubtful our northern neighbors would be loling so much.
    yes, yes, we know. we'd all still be slaving away in the muds pits of York had it not been for american ingenuity. hahaha

    Yes, probably serving an authoritarian version of King C. 

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