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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,035
    hunterh75 said:
    hunterh75 said:
    And he's the reason we're getting so many transplants from Cali to my Southern state. Just sold 10 acres to a couple from Sacramento. Said most of Cali has become a complete shit hole due to political leadership.  Also getting some Oregon and Washington state transplants as well. Actions speak louder than words. 
    Yeah that's why he keeps getting elected. Great insight.
    also why he could potentially be the next president.
    I know 77 million voters that say otherwise.........probably more than 77 mil at rate Dems are losing their base other than freeloaders. 

    Nah. Mamdani will  get them more voters in those southern and swing states when he shows everyone how awesome his policies work.
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,035
    edited August 31
    mace1229 said:
    but the only significant data in terms of election results from said migration is, of those that moved, which way they vote after said move. 
    Even that would be useless if those that move don’t realize the reasons that caused them to move were created by politicians, or blame politicians for reasons beyond their control. Either of which are probably common scenarios.

    As if people leave HCOL blue states but can’t figure out why things and homes are so expensive. And those seven million people moving away to LCOL areas are going to flip southern red states blue (been waiting sixty years for that).  And pretend that it’s not an aggregate phenomenon is not caused by political philosophy in expensive blue regions. Just wait for Mamdani to explode nyc taxes and watch what happens. The level of dem denialism is something else.


    the details: TX and FL expected to add 2-4 house seats/electoral votes and a handful of others gaining one. Where exactly are Dems picking up any of those seats?

     

    Post edited by Lerxst1992 on
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,609
    edited September 1
    mace1229 said:
    but the only significant data in terms of election results from said migration is, of those that moved, which way they vote after said move. 
    Even that would be useless if those that move don’t realize the reasons that caused them to move were created by politicians, or blame politicians for reasons beyond their control. Either of which are probably common scenarios.

    As if people leave HCOL blue states but can’t figure out why things and homes are so expensive. And those seven million people moving away to LCOL areas are going to flip southern red states blue (been waiting sixty years for that).  And pretend that it’s not an aggregate phenomenon is not caused by political philosophy in expensive blue regions. Just wait for Mamdani to explode nyc taxes and watch what happens. The level of dem denialism is something else.


    the details: TX and FL expected to add 2-4 house seats/electoral votes and a handful of others gaining one. Where exactly are Dems picking up any of those seats?

     

    A lot of the reason those states are expensive is because the higher quality of life leads to higher demand to live there. 
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,310
    hunterh75 said:
    hunterh75 said:
    And he's the reason we're getting so many transplants from Cali to my Southern state. Just sold 10 acres to a couple from Sacramento. Said most of Cali has become a complete shit hole due to political leadership.  Also getting some Oregon and Washington state transplants as well. Actions speak louder than words. 
    Yeah that's why he keeps getting elected. Great insight.
    also why he could potentially be the next president.
    I know 77 million voters that say otherwise.........probably more than 77 mil at rate Dems are losing their base other than freeloaders. 
    no, aging republicans are dying. 
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,310
    hunterh75 said:
    hunterh75 said:
    And he's the reason we're getting so many transplants from Cali to my Southern state. Just sold 10 acres to a couple from Sacramento. Said most of Cali has become a complete shit hole due to political leadership.  Also getting some Oregon and Washington state transplants as well. Actions speak louder than words. 
    sounds like you need to build a wall then.
    nah, made some good dough off that sale.  You missed my point obviously. 
    good for you.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,310
    mace1229 said:
    but the only significant data in terms of election results from said migration is, of those that moved, which way they vote after said move. 
    Even that would be useless if those that move don’t realize the reasons that caused them to move were created by politicians, or blame politicians for reasons beyond their control. Either of which are probably common scenarios.

    As if people leave HCOL blue states but can’t figure out why things and homes are so expensive. And those seven million people moving away to LCOL areas are going to flip southern red states blue (been waiting sixty years for that).  And pretend that it’s not an aggregate phenomenon is not caused by political philosophy in expensive blue regions. Just wait for Mamdani to explode nyc taxes and watch what happens. The level of dem denialism is something else.


    the details: TX and FL expected to add 2-4 house seats/electoral votes and a handful of others gaining one. Where exactly are Dems picking up any of those seats?

     

    A lot of the reason those states are expensive is because the higher quality of life leads to higher demand to live there. 
    i agree. give me a place that allows me to get the vaccines i want and does not try to overturn the will of the voters.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,854
    mace1229 said:
    but the only significant data in terms of election results from said migration is, of those that moved, which way they vote after said move. 
    Even that would be useless if those that move don’t realize the reasons that caused them to move were created by politicians, or blame politicians for reasons beyond their control. Either of which are probably common scenarios.

    As if people leave HCOL blue states but can’t figure out why things and homes are so expensive. And those seven million people moving away to LCOL areas are going to flip southern red states blue (been waiting sixty years for that).  And pretend that it’s not an aggregate phenomenon is not caused by political philosophy in expensive blue regions. Just wait for Mamdani to explode nyc taxes and watch what happens. The level of dem denialism is something else.


    the details: TX and FL expected to add 2-4 house seats/electoral votes and a handful of others gaining one. Where exactly are Dems picking up any of those seats?

     

    A lot of the reason those states are expensive is because the higher quality of life leads to higher demand to live there. 
    i agree. give me a place that allows me to get the vaccines i want and does not try to overturn the will of the voters.
    Which vaccines are banned in which states?
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,035
    mace1229 said:
    but the only significant data in terms of election results from said migration is, of those that moved, which way they vote after said move. 
    Even that would be useless if those that move don’t realize the reasons that caused them to move were created by politicians, or blame politicians for reasons beyond their control. Either of which are probably common scenarios.

    As if people leave HCOL blue states but can’t figure out why things and homes are so expensive. And those seven million people moving away to LCOL areas are going to flip southern red states blue (been waiting sixty years for that).  And pretend that it’s not an aggregate phenomenon is not caused by political philosophy in expensive blue regions. Just wait for Mamdani to explode nyc taxes and watch what happens. The level of dem denialism is something else.


    the details: TX and FL expected to add 2-4 house seats/electoral votes and a handful of others gaining one. Where exactly are Dems picking up any of those seats?

     

    A lot of the reason those states are expensive is because the higher quality of life leads to higher demand to live there. 

    Sure, except the problem is a net migration out from blue regions and for political purposes this leads directly to less power in congress and electoral college.



  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,644
    mace1229 said:
    but the only significant data in terms of election results from said migration is, of those that moved, which way they vote after said move. 
    Even that would be useless if those that move don’t realize the reasons that caused them to move were created by politicians, or blame politicians for reasons beyond their control. Either of which are probably common scenarios.

    As if people leave HCOL blue states but can’t figure out why things and homes are so expensive. And those seven million people moving away to LCOL areas are going to flip southern red states blue (been waiting sixty years for that).  And pretend that it’s not an aggregate phenomenon is not caused by political philosophy in expensive blue regions. Just wait for Mamdani to explode nyc taxes and watch what happens. The level of dem denialism is something else.


    the details: TX and FL expected to add 2-4 house seats/electoral votes and a handful of others gaining one. Where exactly are Dems picking up any of those seats?

     

    A lot of the reason those states are expensive is because the higher quality of life leads to higher demand to live there. 

    Sure, except the problem is a net migration out from blue regions and for political purposes this leads directly to less power in congress and electoral college.



    in case you didn't catch the drift of his post, he was correcting your assessment of people leaving blue states cuz (I'm paraphrasing here) "dems suck". And you agreed with him, then moved your goal posts from "cause" to "effect". AI not working today?
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,310
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    but the only significant data in terms of election results from said migration is, of those that moved, which way they vote after said move. 
    Even that would be useless if those that move don’t realize the reasons that caused them to move were created by politicians, or blame politicians for reasons beyond their control. Either of which are probably common scenarios.

    As if people leave HCOL blue states but can’t figure out why things and homes are so expensive. And those seven million people moving away to LCOL areas are going to flip southern red states blue (been waiting sixty years for that).  And pretend that it’s not an aggregate phenomenon is not caused by political philosophy in expensive blue regions. Just wait for Mamdani to explode nyc taxes and watch what happens. The level of dem denialism is something else.


    the details: TX and FL expected to add 2-4 house seats/electoral votes and a handful of others gaining one. Where exactly are Dems picking up any of those seats?

     

    A lot of the reason those states are expensive is because the higher quality of life leads to higher demand to live there. 
    i agree. give me a place that allows me to get the vaccines i want and does not try to overturn the will of the voters.
    Which vaccines are banned in which states?
    they are making the covid vaccine more difficult to get now. missouri gop is overturning or not enacting the laws we voted for, now they are gerrymandering the state like texas.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,609
    mace1229 said:
    but the only significant data in terms of election results from said migration is, of those that moved, which way they vote after said move. 
    Even that would be useless if those that move don’t realize the reasons that caused them to move were created by politicians, or blame politicians for reasons beyond their control. Either of which are probably common scenarios.

    As if people leave HCOL blue states but can’t figure out why things and homes are so expensive. And those seven million people moving away to LCOL areas are going to flip southern red states blue (been waiting sixty years for that).  And pretend that it’s not an aggregate phenomenon is not caused by political philosophy in expensive blue regions. Just wait for Mamdani to explode nyc taxes and watch what happens. The level of dem denialism is something else.


    the details: TX and FL expected to add 2-4 house seats/electoral votes and a handful of others gaining one. Where exactly are Dems picking up any of those seats?

     

    A lot of the reason those states are expensive is because the higher quality of life leads to higher demand to live there. 

    Sure, except the problem is a net migration out from blue regions and for political purposes this leads directly to less power in congress and electoral college.



    Take CA for example, the states population is increasing, and a lot of people moving are republicans looking for a safe space with other republicans. 
  • Gern Blansten
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    hunterh75 said:
    hunterh75 said:
    And he's the reason we're getting so many transplants from Cali to my Southern state. Just sold 10 acres to a couple from Sacramento. Said most of Cali has become a complete shit hole due to political leadership.  Also getting some Oregon and Washington state transplants as well. Actions speak louder than words. 
    Yeah that's why he keeps getting elected. Great insight.
    also why he could potentially be the next president.
    I know 77 million voters that say otherwise.........probably more than 77 mil at rate Dems are losing their base other than freeloaders. 
    lol...classic
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,854
    mace1229 said:
    but the only significant data in terms of election results from said migration is, of those that moved, which way they vote after said move. 
    Even that would be useless if those that move don’t realize the reasons that caused them to move were created by politicians, or blame politicians for reasons beyond their control. Either of which are probably common scenarios.

    As if people leave HCOL blue states but can’t figure out why things and homes are so expensive. And those seven million people moving away to LCOL areas are going to flip southern red states blue (been waiting sixty years for that).  And pretend that it’s not an aggregate phenomenon is not caused by political philosophy in expensive blue regions. Just wait for Mamdani to explode nyc taxes and watch what happens. The level of dem denialism is something else.


    the details: TX and FL expected to add 2-4 house seats/electoral votes and a handful of others gaining one. Where exactly are Dems picking up any of those seats?

     

    A lot of the reason those states are expensive is because the higher quality of life leads to higher demand to live there. 

    Sure, except the problem is a net migration out from blue regions and for political purposes this leads directly to less power in congress and electoral college.



    Take CA for example, the states population is increasing, and a lot of people moving are republicans looking for a safe space with other republicans. 
    Its only seen a slight increase for about 2 years, after several years of being stagnate or a decline.
    California's population has still slightly decreased since 2018, where the majority of the country has seen growth for the same time frame. 
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,854
    edited September 2
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    but the only significant data in terms of election results from said migration is, of those that moved, which way they vote after said move. 
    Even that would be useless if those that move don’t realize the reasons that caused them to move were created by politicians, or blame politicians for reasons beyond their control. Either of which are probably common scenarios.

    As if people leave HCOL blue states but can’t figure out why things and homes are so expensive. And those seven million people moving away to LCOL areas are going to flip southern red states blue (been waiting sixty years for that).  And pretend that it’s not an aggregate phenomenon is not caused by political philosophy in expensive blue regions. Just wait for Mamdani to explode nyc taxes and watch what happens. The level of dem denialism is something else.


    the details: TX and FL expected to add 2-4 house seats/electoral votes and a handful of others gaining one. Where exactly are Dems picking up any of those seats?

     

    A lot of the reason those states are expensive is because the higher quality of life leads to higher demand to live there. 
    i agree. give me a place that allows me to get the vaccines i want and does not try to overturn the will of the voters.
    Which vaccines are banned in which states?
    they are making the covid vaccine more difficult to get now. missouri gop is overturning or not enacting the laws we voted for, now they are gerrymandering the state like texas.
    The story I heard was that the FDA regulations were making it harder to get the covid vax, not each individual state.
    I'm not familiar with MO, but government should never go against what the people voted for.
    Gerrymandering isn't new and has been used by both sides for as long as I;m aware of. It's a dumb practice that should not be allowed, but it is. 
    Post edited by mace1229 on
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,310
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    but the only significant data in terms of election results from said migration is, of those that moved, which way they vote after said move. 
    Even that would be useless if those that move don’t realize the reasons that caused them to move were created by politicians, or blame politicians for reasons beyond their control. Either of which are probably common scenarios.

    As if people leave HCOL blue states but can’t figure out why things and homes are so expensive. And those seven million people moving away to LCOL areas are going to flip southern red states blue (been waiting sixty years for that).  And pretend that it’s not an aggregate phenomenon is not caused by political philosophy in expensive blue regions. Just wait for Mamdani to explode nyc taxes and watch what happens. The level of dem denialism is something else.


    the details: TX and FL expected to add 2-4 house seats/electoral votes and a handful of others gaining one. Where exactly are Dems picking up any of those seats?

     

    A lot of the reason those states are expensive is because the higher quality of life leads to higher demand to live there. 
    i agree. give me a place that allows me to get the vaccines i want and does not try to overturn the will of the voters.
    Which vaccines are banned in which states?
    they are making the covid vaccine more difficult to get now. missouri gop is overturning or not enacting the laws we voted for, now they are gerrymandering the state like texas.
    The story I heard was that the FDA regulations were making it harder to get the covid vax, not each individual state.
    I'm not familiar with MO, but government should never go against what the people voted for.
    Gerrymandering isn't new and has been used by both sides for as long as I;m aware of. It's a dumb practice that should not be allowed, but it is. 
    i know you are not familiar with MO. i live here so i was telling everyone here what is happening in MO.

    the FDA has no business making a proven vaccine more difficult to get. if we want it, we should be able to get it. i am a surgical rep, i am required to have it to enter hospitals. how can i work if dipshit bobby kennedy makes it hard for people like me to get?

    trump did operation warp speed, which was his only success in the first term, and they are running away from it because their maga followers are stupid and angry. we should be able to get any vaccine that is available that we want to get. it should not be made more difficult. this is public health we are talking about.

    i agree that gerrymandering is stupid, but here we are, everyone is going to blatantly do it now.

    i am waiting for the supreme court to approve the new red state maps and strike down the new blue state ones. they are that transparent.
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,854
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    but the only significant data in terms of election results from said migration is, of those that moved, which way they vote after said move. 
    Even that would be useless if those that move don’t realize the reasons that caused them to move were created by politicians, or blame politicians for reasons beyond their control. Either of which are probably common scenarios.

    As if people leave HCOL blue states but can’t figure out why things and homes are so expensive. And those seven million people moving away to LCOL areas are going to flip southern red states blue (been waiting sixty years for that).  And pretend that it’s not an aggregate phenomenon is not caused by political philosophy in expensive blue regions. Just wait for Mamdani to explode nyc taxes and watch what happens. The level of dem denialism is something else.


    the details: TX and FL expected to add 2-4 house seats/electoral votes and a handful of others gaining one. Where exactly are Dems picking up any of those seats?

     

    A lot of the reason those states are expensive is because the higher quality of life leads to higher demand to live there. 
    i agree. give me a place that allows me to get the vaccines i want and does not try to overturn the will of the voters.
    Which vaccines are banned in which states?
    they are making the covid vaccine more difficult to get now. missouri gop is overturning or not enacting the laws we voted for, now they are gerrymandering the state like texas.
    The story I heard was that the FDA regulations were making it harder to get the covid vax, not each individual state.
    I'm not familiar with MO, but government should never go against what the people voted for.
    Gerrymandering isn't new and has been used by both sides for as long as I;m aware of. It's a dumb practice that should not be allowed, but it is. 
    i know you are not familiar with MO. i live here so i was telling everyone here what is happening in MO.

    the FDA has no business making a proven vaccine more difficult to get. if we want it, we should be able to get it. i am a surgical rep, i am required to have it to enter hospitals. how can i work if dipshit bobby kennedy makes it hard for people like me to get?

    trump did operation warp speed, which was his only success in the first term, and they are running away from it because their maga followers are stupid and angry. we should be able to get any vaccine that is available that we want to get. it should not be made more difficult. this is public health we are talking about.

    i agree that gerrymandering is stupid, but here we are, everyone is going to blatantly do it now.

    i am waiting for the supreme court to approve the new red state maps and strike down the new blue state ones. they are that transparent.
    I haven't followed the vax closely, are they not making exceptions for health care workers or those that require it for work? Will they still require it? But my point of that was it's not a state thing, it s a fed thing I believe. 

  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,310
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    but the only significant data in terms of election results from said migration is, of those that moved, which way they vote after said move. 
    Even that would be useless if those that move don’t realize the reasons that caused them to move were created by politicians, or blame politicians for reasons beyond their control. Either of which are probably common scenarios.

    As if people leave HCOL blue states but can’t figure out why things and homes are so expensive. And those seven million people moving away to LCOL areas are going to flip southern red states blue (been waiting sixty years for that).  And pretend that it’s not an aggregate phenomenon is not caused by political philosophy in expensive blue regions. Just wait for Mamdani to explode nyc taxes and watch what happens. The level of dem denialism is something else.


    the details: TX and FL expected to add 2-4 house seats/electoral votes and a handful of others gaining one. Where exactly are Dems picking up any of those seats?

     

    A lot of the reason those states are expensive is because the higher quality of life leads to higher demand to live there. 
    i agree. give me a place that allows me to get the vaccines i want and does not try to overturn the will of the voters.
    Which vaccines are banned in which states?
    they are making the covid vaccine more difficult to get now. missouri gop is overturning or not enacting the laws we voted for, now they are gerrymandering the state like texas.
    The story I heard was that the FDA regulations were making it harder to get the covid vax, not each individual state.
    I'm not familiar with MO, but government should never go against what the people voted for.
    Gerrymandering isn't new and has been used by both sides for as long as I;m aware of. It's a dumb practice that should not be allowed, but it is. 
    i know you are not familiar with MO. i live here so i was telling everyone here what is happening in MO.

    the FDA has no business making a proven vaccine more difficult to get. if we want it, we should be able to get it. i am a surgical rep, i am required to have it to enter hospitals. how can i work if dipshit bobby kennedy makes it hard for people like me to get?

    trump did operation warp speed, which was his only success in the first term, and they are running away from it because their maga followers are stupid and angry. we should be able to get any vaccine that is available that we want to get. it should not be made more difficult. this is public health we are talking about.

    i agree that gerrymandering is stupid, but here we are, everyone is going to blatantly do it now.

    i am waiting for the supreme court to approve the new red state maps and strike down the new blue state ones. they are that transparent.
    I haven't followed the vax closely, are they not making exceptions for health care workers or those that require it for work? Will they still require it? But my point of that was it's not a state thing, it s a fed thing I believe. 

    there are a group of northeastern blue states banding together to make sure their people can get it. because it is a federal issue and the federal government is screwing us. 
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,035
    mace1229 said:
    but the only significant data in terms of election results from said migration is, of those that moved, which way they vote after said move. 
    Even that would be useless if those that move don’t realize the reasons that caused them to move were created by politicians, or blame politicians for reasons beyond their control. Either of which are probably common scenarios.

    As if people leave HCOL blue states but can’t figure out why things and homes are so expensive. And those seven million people moving away to LCOL areas are going to flip southern red states blue (been waiting sixty years for that).  And pretend that it’s not an aggregate phenomenon is not caused by political philosophy in expensive blue regions. Just wait for Mamdani to explode nyc taxes and watch what happens. The level of dem denialism is something else.


    the details: TX and FL expected to add 2-4 house seats/electoral votes and a handful of others gaining one. Where exactly are Dems picking up any of those seats?

     

    A lot of the reason those states are expensive is because the higher quality of life leads to higher demand to live there. 

    Sure, except the problem is a net migration out from blue regions and for political purposes this leads directly to less power in congress and electoral college.



    in case you didn't catch the drift of his post, he was correcting your assessment of people leaving blue states cuz (I'm paraphrasing here) "dems suck". And you agreed with him, then moved your goal posts from "cause" to "effect". AI not working today?
    You are losing to the broken clock yet again


    ” The idea that population shifts from states with Democratic-led governments to those with Republican-led governments are primarily due to failed economic policies for younger people is a prominent assertion, but the reality is more complex. While economic factors play a significant role, they are not the only drivers of migration.
    Several factors contribute to migration patterns in the United States, and it's difficult to isolate a single cause:
     * Economic Factors: This is a major driver of migration. People, especially younger people, often move in search of better job opportunities, higher wages, and a lower cost of living. States with more robust job markets, lower taxes, and more affordable housing tend to attract new residents. This is often cited as a reason for people leaving high-cost Democratic-led states like California and New York for states like Texas and Florida.
     * Cost of Living: High housing costs and general cost of living are a significant "push" factor for people leaving certain states. This is especially true for younger people who are looking to buy their first home or start a family.
     * Political and Social Alignment: While economic reasons are often at the forefront, there is evidence that people are also moving to states that align with their political views. Some studies suggest a "Republican exodus" from states like California, with those leaving being more likely to be Republican. Conversely, new arrivals to these states are often more Democratic.
     * Remote Work: The rise of remote work has given people more flexibility to live where they choose, no longer tethered to a specific office location. This allows them to move to areas with a lower cost of living or a different lifestyle, which may be in states with different political leanings.
     * Quality of Life and Lifestyle: Other factors such as a desire for a different lifestyle, better schools, or less population density also influence migration decisions.
    In conclusion, while the assertion that failed economic policies are a key driver of population decline in some states is strong, it's an oversimplification. The movement of people is a multifaceted issue influenced by a combination of economic, political, and personal factors.
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,609
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    but the only significant data in terms of election results from said migration is, of those that moved, which way they vote after said move. 
    Even that would be useless if those that move don’t realize the reasons that caused them to move were created by politicians, or blame politicians for reasons beyond their control. Either of which are probably common scenarios.

    As if people leave HCOL blue states but can’t figure out why things and homes are so expensive. And those seven million people moving away to LCOL areas are going to flip southern red states blue (been waiting sixty years for that).  And pretend that it’s not an aggregate phenomenon is not caused by political philosophy in expensive blue regions. Just wait for Mamdani to explode nyc taxes and watch what happens. The level of dem denialism is something else.


    the details: TX and FL expected to add 2-4 house seats/electoral votes and a handful of others gaining one. Where exactly are Dems picking up any of those seats?

     

    A lot of the reason those states are expensive is because the higher quality of life leads to higher demand to live there. 

    Sure, except the problem is a net migration out from blue regions and for political purposes this leads directly to less power in congress and electoral college.



    Take CA for example, the states population is increasing, and a lot of people moving are republicans looking for a safe space with other republicans. 
    Its only seen a slight increase for about 2 years, after several years of being stagnate or a decline.
    California's population has still slightly decreased since 2018, where the majority of the country has seen growth for the same time frame. 
    And it’s important to note the increase based on the political narrative where we’re supposed shit on the state while claiming we’re the greatest country.