Noblesville 5.7.2010. Lexington 4.26.2016. Nashville 9.16.2022. St Louis 9.18.2022. Chicago 1 9.5.2023. Chicago 2 9.7.2023. *Noblesville 9.10.2023* (Gutted) Seattle 5.30.2024 Noblesville 8.26.2024 Chicago 8.29.2024 Chicago 8.31.2024 Pittsburgh 5.16.2025 Pittsburgh 5.18.2025
Watching the YouTube video of the ending of the 5/18 show in Pittsburgh makes me think that this was already decided pre Spring 2025 tour. Everyone specifically embraces Matt at the end, so it sure looks like they all knew.
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Watching the YouTube video of the ending of the 5/18 show in Pittsburgh makes me think that this was already decided pre Spring 2025 tour. Everyone specifically embraces Matt at the end, so it sure looks like they all knew.
All makes sense now.
PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 &05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01& 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles (Inglewood) I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18& 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16& 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29& 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03& 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27& 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II
EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival
Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08 ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
Wow... From the way this is written and the band's response, it definitely feels like there's more to the story. Regardless, I wish him the best—he’s clearly talented and shouldn't have any trouble finding new opportunities. Hoping the band finds a drummer who brings fresh energy to this next chapter!
Since he has given no reason for leaving the band; I would say the likelihood of there being more to the story is 100%. The possibilities are endless.
I completely agree with this. Neither side even hinted at the "why." Could be simple, could be complex.
Correct, he said all he could..
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good lord, Dave A. The guy is STILL, to this very day, complaining online about how Ed and the band treated him. And he says openly he hates the band's music now. No chance he'd be invited back at this point.
This. And how many posts will there be hoping Dave rejoins the band?
Seeing as there are multiple threads I'm happy to delete this thread, but how....???
Don’t worry the Karen police of this board will start directing people by posting the link and thinking they are saving the world. (And who cares how many threads are up, seriously)
karens of the board? saving the world? just helps to keep the conversation flowing in one spot, that's all. so sorry I chuffed your panties.
Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall
The distance to the end Is closer now than it's ever been Road we traveled far All the lights and sights we saw No room left on the pages We filled 'em up and painted some Though the book, it may never be read Oh, by anyone, oh, anyone but me
And I hope the people are smiling And I hope that today and every day is grand Oh, I apologize, so sorry 'bout the timing But you know, something that I never had was the upper hand
at least Matt had the ‘upper hand’ to leave on his own accord
Was the spring run planned in order to give Matt a farewell mini tour?? There was no reason for them to tour the states again after ‘24 and hitting Oz.
I wonder….
In any event, MC will be sorely missed. He held the band together in some ways after Jack had to depart. I think he helped them all turn a page, so to speak. The stability and workman like attitude, his approach to songwriting, etc. We were lucky to have enjoyed his contributions for so long.
I just realized he'll never play Dark Matter songs ever again. He drummed his absolute ass off on that album, and man, it'll take whichever drummer who comes in a lot to play 50% as good as he does on it....
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Wow!! Absolutely shocked to see this news earlier. Trying to process and come to grips with everything. Reading through all the comments helped. Head is still spinning though to formulate much.
Looked back over my 5/18 pics from the shows end and could see some of the hugs, but the video cements it to me that the band all knew this news at the time.
Here I was bummed about the possibility of no live shows for the next 12-18 months. Never considered the mighty MFC would depart and PJ would need another drummer.
So glad though to catch see the final show and so many in '24 and '25. My first ever PJ show was in '98 so all I've ever seen is Matt behind the kit - hard to imagine anyone else behind there. Thankful though for each and every show and wish MFC well!!
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Was the spring run planned in order to give Matt a farewell mini tour?? There was no reason for them to tour the states again after ‘24 and hitting Oz.
I wonder….
In any event, MC will be sorely missed. He held the band together in some ways after Jack had to depart. I think he helped them all turn a page, so to speak. The stability and workman like attitude, his approach to songwriting, etc. We were lucky to have enjoyed his contributions for so long.
I was just thinking this. Maybe he said towards the end of last year that he was done. They asked him to do one final run to allow him a victory lap. That’s great if they did and glad I got one more show. Thanks for everything MFC!!!!
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Wow, I wasn’t expecting this news even though in the back of your mind there is always that pestering thought the ride has to eventually come to an end. As many have said, it’s retirement age for some folks.
Thank you Matt for everything you’ve given this band and us. All the best to you and your next endeavor. You will be missed on that stage.
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Watching the YouTube video of the ending of the 5/18 show in Pittsburgh makes me think that this was already decided pre Spring 2025 tour. Everyone specifically embraces Matt at the end, so it sure looks like they all knew.
Great catch. Definitely looks like knowing hugs there. Wow, damn
Damn this is a bummer. I always appreciated the power/energy that Matt brings. While I get the vibe of Jack Irons, he never had the hard-rock intensity that I wanted out of PJ. Now that I'm older and appreciate No Code more than I did at the time, I'd be open to Jack coming back and seeing if things could get a little weird again.
Eddie did say “in a year or two when we’re back at this mic”. When they clearly knew Matt’s intentions. Figure that’s enough time for a scheduled break and then finalizing next drummer, then next plans.
For new music, Eddie also semi-jokingly/serious said Dark Matter would be their last one. (Forget the context.)
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I'm 100% in on the "they've known for a while" train now after watching that video. Makes me feel way better about it, because it means they've had the final lap with him, and have taken the time to think about it before making the official announcement
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The more I think about it the more pessimistic I get that the trajectory from here forward is flat, much less up. Feels like an inflection point.
I'm trying not to go this route, but it's hard not to think this way.
To be optimistic, if they only had 1-2 years left, and that was known.... don't you think MC would have hung on for the last year or so?
I think theres 5+ years and 1 more album still in the band.
If they can get to PJ40 (in 6 years), then they should consider a mega, worldwide PJ40 Tour and then maybe hang it up
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Chicago 1 9.5.2023. Chicago 2 9.7.2023.
*Noblesville 9.10.2023* (Gutted)
Seattle 5.30.2024 Noblesville 8.26.2024 Chicago 8.29.2024 Chicago 8.31.2024
Pittsburgh 5.16.2025 Pittsburgh 5.18.2025
2012: Atlanta
2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
Me too.
Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Houston, B'ham, Nashville, Atlanta '03
Toledo, Grand Rapids '04
Kitchener, London '05
Camden x 2, D.C., Cincy, San Fran x 3 '06
Chicago '07
Columbia '08
MSG x 2 '10;
PJ 20 x 2 '11
Atlanta '12
Wrigley '13
St. Louis, Memphis '14
Lexington, Wrigley '16
Wrigley x 2 '18
Nashville '22
Nashville x 2 '25
Jack left the first time due to the touring schedule. That’s not gonna work.
Dave A…. lol
What’s Matt Chamberlain doing? 😂
Agree Josh isn’t a full time drummer.
Realistically they have social connections and will pick a guy they like. Who’s ready to learn 35 years of catalogue??
Is closer now than it's ever been
Road we traveled far
All the lights and sights we saw
No room left on the pages
We filled 'em up and painted some
Though the book, it may never be read
Oh, by anyone, oh, anyone but me
And I hope that today and every day is grand
Oh, I apologize, so sorry 'bout the timing
But you know, something that I never had was the upper hand
at least Matt had the ‘upper hand’ to leave on his own accord
In any event, MC will be sorely missed. He held the band together in some ways after Jack had to depart. I think he helped them all turn a page, so to speak. The stability and workman like attitude, his approach to songwriting, etc. We were lucky to have enjoyed his contributions for so long.
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2006 Boston I
2008 Bonnaroo, Hartford, Mansfield I
2010 Hartford
2013 Worcester I, Worcester II, Hartford
2016 Bonnaroo, Fenway I, Fenway II
2018 Fenway I, Fenway II
2021 Sea.Hear.Now
2022 Camden
2024 MSG I, Fenway I, Fenway II
Looked back over my 5/18 pics from the shows end and could see some of the hugs, but the video cements it to me that the band all knew this news at the time.
Here I was bummed about the possibility of no live shows for the next 12-18 months. Never considered the mighty MFC would depart and PJ would need another drummer.
So glad though to catch see the final show and so many in '24 and '25. My first ever PJ show was in '98 so all I've ever seen is Matt behind the kit - hard to imagine anyone else behind there. Thankful though for each and every show and wish MFC well!!
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2006 Boston I
2008 Bonnaroo, Hartford, Mansfield I
2010 Hartford
2013 Worcester I, Worcester II, Hartford
2016 Bonnaroo, Fenway I, Fenway II
2018 Fenway I, Fenway II
2021 Sea.Hear.Now
2022 Camden
2024 MSG I, Fenway I, Fenway II
2008: Camden 2, Hartford
2010: Hartford
2013: Wrigley, Worcester x2, Hartford
2015: NYC
2016: Philly 2, MSG x2, Boston 2, (TOTD Philly 2, MSG)
2018: Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Boston x2
2022: San Diego, Sacramento, Las Vegas
I wouldn't be surprised if they knew throughout the whole DM era that this was going to be their last go around w/ Matt.
Josh Klingoffer: -250
Jack Irons: +350
Dave Krusen: +375
Richard Stuevard: +550
Dave Abruzzesse: +4500
Mansfield '08
Hartford '10
Worcester, Hartford '13
Global Citizen, NY '15
Nuclear fission
Mansfield '08
Hartford '10
Worcester, Hartford '13
Global Citizen, NY '15
2008: Camden 2, Hartford
2010: Hartford
2013: Wrigley, Worcester x2, Hartford
2015: NYC
2016: Philly 2, MSG x2, Boston 2, (TOTD Philly 2, MSG)
2018: Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Boston x2
2022: San Diego, Sacramento, Las Vegas
I think theres 5+ years and 1 more album still in the band.
If they can get to PJ40 (in 6 years), then they should consider a mega, worldwide PJ40 Tour and then maybe hang it up
2012: Atlanta
2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore