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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,424
    benjs said:
    I found that article to be a huge waste of time. There’s a lot of stupid in the States’ culture and society, starting with leadership on down. Shocker. People value sensationalism over truthfulness - shocker. AI will be used in place of people utilizing their brains - shocker. 

    What was I supposed to get out of this? 

     * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    It appears you already got what you got out of it. Congratulations. Thanks for reading though. Sorry to have wasted your time.

    I just figured if you shared such a lengthy essay, there was some novel conclusion. My question is genuine - am I missing something, or are those the conclusions? 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,906
    benjs said:
    benjs said:
    I found that article to be a huge waste of time. There’s a lot of stupid in the States’ culture and society, starting with leadership on down. Shocker. People value sensationalism over truthfulness - shocker. AI will be used in place of people utilizing their brains - shocker. 

    What was I supposed to get out of this? 

     * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    It appears you already got what you got out of it. Congratulations. Thanks for reading though. Sorry to have wasted your time.

    I just figured if you shared such a lengthy essay, there was some novel conclusion. My question is genuine - am I missing something, or are those the conclusions? 

     * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    It stands on its own. You got out of it what you did. I’m not going to try and convince you to take something else out of it. It is what it is and you got what you got out of it. Thanks again for reading.

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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,214
    edited 4:41PM
    benjs said:
    I found that article to be a huge waste of time. There’s a lot of stupid in the States’ culture and society, starting with leadership on down. Shocker. People value sensationalism over truthfulness - shocker. AI will be used in place of people utilizing their brains - shocker. 

    What was I supposed to get out of this? 
    The point of using AI is to challenge it to give better responses. Sometimes poor questions lead to poor answers. So continue the dialogue and see how it can think. It’ll give far more intelligent replies when challenged than most of what’s on the internet.

    Its miles and miles ahead of social media and anecdotal one sided opinion stories, which is bombarded on this forum regularly, while no one else questions the value of that.


     

  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,214
    Tldr 
    ETLDR
    The article is using extremist facts to make its point. It’s a version of trumpism (without the electoral successes) and that author is too shortsighted to understand. For example, attacking DEI is wrong because they didn’t start the LA fires is true, but completely irrelevant to the fact that DEI tricks like giving executives bonuses based on gender and skin color hiring and advancement is wrong.

    Also, AI can give bad facts but it is light years ahead of social media and the general internet. There will certainly be some AI  volatility that will bounce markets, but its capabilities are next level. I’ve put advanced calculations regarding long term investments and present values done with one click in seconds. I’ve used ai in a lengthy conversational manner to help with a complex injury rehab and it’s next level compared to any tech previously  available on a phone or tablet.

    That article is just another long winded version of an anecdote to dismiss the lessons we should be learning from trumpism and the recent tech advances.

     * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.


    Reads like an AI answer.
    Topic avoidance, ridicule and mocking. The playbook is getting old.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,906
    * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    US tourism declines from Canada to Flo Rida, Cali, Nevada and Louisiana. Appears down significantly.


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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,906
    Tldr 
    ETLDR
    The article is using extremist facts to make its point. It’s a version of trumpism (without the electoral successes) and that author is too shortsighted to understand. For example, attacking DEI is wrong because they didn’t start the LA fires is true, but completely irrelevant to the fact that DEI tricks like giving executives bonuses based on gender and skin color hiring and advancement is wrong.

    Also, AI can give bad facts but it is light years ahead of social media and the general internet. There will certainly be some AI  volatility that will bounce markets, but its capabilities are next level. I’ve put advanced calculations regarding long term investments and present values done with one click in seconds. I’ve used ai in a lengthy conversational manner to help with a complex injury rehab and it’s next level compared to any tech previously  available on a phone or tablet.

    That article is just another long winded version of an anecdote to dismiss the lessons we should be learning from trumpism and the recent tech advances.

     * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.


    Reads like an AI answer.
    Topic avoidance, ridicule and mocking. The playbook is getting old.

     * The following opinion is mine and mine alone and does not represent the views of my family, friends, government and/or my past, present or future employer. US Department of State: 1-888-407-4747.

    My honest opinion.

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,946
    Tldr 
    ETLDR
    The article is using extremist facts to make its point. It’s a version of trumpism (without the electoral successes) and that author is too shortsighted to understand. For example, attacking DEI is wrong because they didn’t start the LA fires is true, but completely irrelevant to the fact that DEI tricks like giving executives bonuses based on gender and skin color hiring and advancement is wrong.

    Also, AI can give bad facts but it is light years ahead of social media and the general internet. There will certainly be some AI  volatility that will bounce markets, but its capabilities are next level. I’ve put advanced calculations regarding long term investments and present values done with one click in seconds. I’ve used ai in a lengthy conversational manner to help with a complex injury rehab and it’s next level compared to any tech previously  available on a phone or tablet.

    That article is just another long winded version of an anecdote to dismiss the lessons we should be learning from trumpism and the recent tech advances.
    South Park took on that entire thought process a few weeks ago. Nailed it. 
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,424
    mrussel1 said:
    Tldr 
    ETLDR
    The article is using extremist facts to make its point. It’s a version of trumpism (without the electoral successes) and that author is too shortsighted to understand. For example, attacking DEI is wrong because they didn’t start the LA fires is true, but completely irrelevant to the fact that DEI tricks like giving executives bonuses based on gender and skin color hiring and advancement is wrong.

    Also, AI can give bad facts but it is light years ahead of social media and the general internet. There will certainly be some AI  volatility that will bounce markets, but its capabilities are next level. I’ve put advanced calculations regarding long term investments and present values done with one click in seconds. I’ve used ai in a lengthy conversational manner to help with a complex injury rehab and it’s next level compared to any tech previously  available on a phone or tablet.

    That article is just another long winded version of an anecdote to dismiss the lessons we should be learning from trumpism and the recent tech advances.
    South Park took on that entire thought process a few weeks ago. Nailed it. 
    Agreed. The tendency for LLMs to reaffirm a person’s position makes it inherently dangerous. I can frame the same question in two different lights, and expect two different answers (based on what it thinks I want to hear most). I tend to ask multiple ways intentionally, to find points in favour or opposed to any topic. If I didn’t, based on what I wrote above, it would just lead to confirmation bias.
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,214
    benjs said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Tldr 
    ETLDR
    The article is using extremist facts to make its point. It’s a version of trumpism (without the electoral successes) and that author is too shortsighted to understand. For example, attacking DEI is wrong because they didn’t start the LA fires is true, but completely irrelevant to the fact that DEI tricks like giving executives bonuses based on gender and skin color hiring and advancement is wrong.

    Also, AI can give bad facts but it is light years ahead of social media and the general internet. There will certainly be some AI  volatility that will bounce markets, but its capabilities are next level. I’ve put advanced calculations regarding long term investments and present values done with one click in seconds. I’ve used ai in a lengthy conversational manner to help with a complex injury rehab and it’s next level compared to any tech previously  available on a phone or tablet.

    That article is just another long winded version of an anecdote to dismiss the lessons we should be learning from trumpism and the recent tech advances.
    South Park took on that entire thought process a few weeks ago. Nailed it. 
    Agreed. The tendency for LLMs to reaffirm a person’s position makes it inherently dangerous. I can frame the same question in two different lights, and expect two different answers (based on what it thinks I want to hear most). I tend to ask multiple ways intentionally, to find points in favour or opposed to any topic. If I didn’t, based on what I wrote above, it would just lead to confirmation bias.
    Any new powerful tech tool can be manipulated to nefarious ends. We are on a forum that is inundated with biased social media copies and links  and one sided political opinion articles. Not sure how that’s better.

    I try to use ai to find balance which highlights my political views, and I approach with caution. When someone posted an article about how bad housing costs are now it included a key sentence warning that interest rates are much better now than 30+ years ago, which has an impact why housing is so darned expensive now. I was able to use the articles data to present current housing costs with both interest rates, and then calculate the present value of the annuity of mortgage payments based on savings on current lower rates. I could have even gone farther with the impact of inflation.

    That kind of computing power, what can now be done in seconds by asking the right question, was previously much more difficult , especially on a phone. We know for artistic reasons folks like South Park creators can create impressive deep fakes. But the challenge is on us to know that’s possible.
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,424
    benjs said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Tldr 
    ETLDR
    The article is using extremist facts to make its point. It’s a version of trumpism (without the electoral successes) and that author is too shortsighted to understand. For example, attacking DEI is wrong because they didn’t start the LA fires is true, but completely irrelevant to the fact that DEI tricks like giving executives bonuses based on gender and skin color hiring and advancement is wrong.

    Also, AI can give bad facts but it is light years ahead of social media and the general internet. There will certainly be some AI  volatility that will bounce markets, but its capabilities are next level. I’ve put advanced calculations regarding long term investments and present values done with one click in seconds. I’ve used ai in a lengthy conversational manner to help with a complex injury rehab and it’s next level compared to any tech previously  available on a phone or tablet.

    That article is just another long winded version of an anecdote to dismiss the lessons we should be learning from trumpism and the recent tech advances.
    South Park took on that entire thought process a few weeks ago. Nailed it. 
    Agreed. The tendency for LLMs to reaffirm a person’s position makes it inherently dangerous. I can frame the same question in two different lights, and expect two different answers (based on what it thinks I want to hear most). I tend to ask multiple ways intentionally, to find points in favour or opposed to any topic. If I didn’t, based on what I wrote above, it would just lead to confirmation bias.
    Any new powerful tech tool can be manipulated to nefarious ends. We are on a forum that is inundated with biased social media copies and links  and one sided political opinion articles. Not sure how that’s better.

    I try to use ai to find balance which highlights my political views, and I approach with caution. When someone posted an article about how bad housing costs are now it included a key sentence warning that interest rates are much better now than 30+ years ago, which has an impact why housing is so darned expensive now. I was able to use the articles data to present current housing costs with both interest rates, and then calculate the present value of the annuity of mortgage payments based on savings on current lower rates. I could have even gone farther with the impact of inflation.

    That kind of computing power, what can now be done in seconds by asking the right question, was previously much more difficult , especially on a phone. We know for artistic reasons folks like South Park creators can create impressive deep fakes. But the challenge is on us to know that’s possible.
    I guess we’re talking about two different use cases. If I recall, that South Park episode was primarily about a shitty business idea being called great by a ChatGPT-like voice, and Randy pursuing it endlessly, completely assured now that his ideas are brilliant. I don’t see that as being at all positive for society en masse, as it supports people using critical thought even less than they do today.

    And for what it’s worth, I’d love to see the questions you ask to get your results, as I’ve posited questions to it and received radically different responses from yours. I’ll go back and find some examples a bit later tonight if you’re interested. You say you use it to find balance which highlights your political views… sounds kinda like a Jewish democracy.
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