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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 12,738
    edited July 22
    Sometimes the mask comes off & one's suspicions are confirmed. 
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 14,096
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Yea, just fucking stop, alright (copy and pasted from the Retirement thread). Guess you're taking the position that they had "bad intentions" or "improper credentials", should have obeyed ICE and that ICE is right, eh?

    Get_Right Posts: 14,053
    You only have to fear ICE if you are here with bad intentions or improper credentials. Try getting into Korea or Singapore with no visa. They do not put you up, they kick you out. There are no tents in Korea. Do you really think established US citizens over 50 with more than 30 years of hard work are at risk? Bullshit. More of your nonsense and scare tactics. We are fine. So get real and stop. Because you have no idea.
     Quote

    ICE handcuffs 71-year-old grandmother, a U.S. citizen, at San Diego immigration court

    US citizen, Army veteran detained at California immigration raid | CNN

    Four U.S. citizen children detained by Border Patrol in WA released | The Seattle Times

    US citizen detained by immigration officials who dismissed his Real ID as fake | US immigration | The Guardian

    Yes, they're not all over 50 but I didn't realize age was a determining factor of whether your constitutional rights applied. Must be nice living in ignorance, eh? I could give two fucks about what they do in Singapore or Korea, as well, for the record. Why not mention North Korea and Saudi while you're at it?
    I cannot get beyond the paywalls. My point is simply that I, and similarly situated US citizens, can come and go as we please without any fear. In fact my family and I have traveled internationally a few times this year with zero issues. I mentioned other countries to illustrate that their border rules are even stricter than the US rules. But you do not give two fucks about global standards as a point of reference for an intelligent conversation about border control. Of course there are outliers, as there is with traffic stops here in the US, but if ICE detains you, 95% of the time there is a reason. Even if that reason may be thin. 
    None of those Americans were entering or leaving the United States of Fascism. Try again or continue to bury your head in the sand. Also, none of the countries you’ve thus far have mentioned have a US Bill of Rights, which grants unalienable “rights.” But you know, Korea and Singapore.

    Speaking of an “intelligent” conversation about border control. What a fucking bubble. You might want to read up.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Bill_of_Rights

    I have no problem with the government enforcing rules, even if that enforcement may be harsh. Heck, even local fish and wildlife has approached me with hands on guns. Show them ID and a license then they are friendly. It's not complicated. You cannot just show up and be afforded rights. Those rights are a privilege.
    White privilege ass shit

    OK be another ethnicity and I will agree you are more likely to have a problem. If everything is in order, then you move along. If something is not right then the problem gets larger. It is not complicated.  You cannot just show up under the current admin. Oh and they might be checking people that are already here. There might be a reason they find  you. No visa no bueno. Criminal record? Get the fuck out.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,916
    Get_Right said:
    That article says nothing. The bubble is the US. The current admin is enforcing the bubble. You either have a right to be in the bubble or you don't. And if you don't, then do not be surprised by the tactics to remove you. Even though they might be more harsh than in the past. 
    When was the constitution suspended? Did I miss something? Being outside the bubble? For fucks sake.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,529
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Yea, just fucking stop, alright (copy and pasted from the Retirement thread). Guess you're taking the position that they had "bad intentions" or "improper credentials", should have obeyed ICE and that ICE is right, eh?

    Get_Right Posts: 14,053
    You only have to fear ICE if you are here with bad intentions or improper credentials. Try getting into Korea or Singapore with no visa. They do not put you up, they kick you out. There are no tents in Korea. Do you really think established US citizens over 50 with more than 30 years of hard work are at risk? Bullshit. More of your nonsense and scare tactics. We are fine. So get real and stop. Because you have no idea.
     Quote

    ICE handcuffs 71-year-old grandmother, a U.S. citizen, at San Diego immigration court

    US citizen, Army veteran detained at California immigration raid | CNN

    Four U.S. citizen children detained by Border Patrol in WA released | The Seattle Times

    US citizen detained by immigration officials who dismissed his Real ID as fake | US immigration | The Guardian

    Yes, they're not all over 50 but I didn't realize age was a determining factor of whether your constitutional rights applied. Must be nice living in ignorance, eh? I could give two fucks about what they do in Singapore or Korea, as well, for the record. Why not mention North Korea and Saudi while you're at it?
    I cannot get beyond the paywalls. My point is simply that I, and similarly situated US citizens, can come and go as we please without any fear. In fact my family and I have traveled internationally a few times this year with zero issues. I mentioned other countries to illustrate that their border rules are even stricter than the US rules. But you do not give two fucks about global standards as a point of reference for an intelligent conversation about border control. Of course there are outliers, as there is with traffic stops here in the US, but if ICE detains you, 95% of the time there is a reason. Even if that reason may be thin. 
    Not so fast ICE is detaining Spanish and black peoples full stop! If I travel outside this country even though I carry American passport getting back in is where it gets dangerous! They are racially profiling immigrants brown folks like me 

    Jose I would guess you and your family will have no problem. Even if they question you, it will be done in a minute. They are not after you.
    You know the Bill of Rights but you think the government can stop people based on outward appearance alone and question them? 
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,092
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Yea, just fucking stop, alright (copy and pasted from the Retirement thread). Guess you're taking the position that they had "bad intentions" or "improper credentials", should have obeyed ICE and that ICE is right, eh?

    Get_Right Posts: 14,053
    You only have to fear ICE if you are here with bad intentions or improper credentials. Try getting into Korea or Singapore with no visa. They do not put you up, they kick you out. There are no tents in Korea. Do you really think established US citizens over 50 with more than 30 years of hard work are at risk? Bullshit. More of your nonsense and scare tactics. We are fine. So get real and stop. Because you have no idea.
     Quote

    ICE handcuffs 71-year-old grandmother, a U.S. citizen, at San Diego immigration court

    US citizen, Army veteran detained at California immigration raid | CNN

    Four U.S. citizen children detained by Border Patrol in WA released | The Seattle Times

    US citizen detained by immigration officials who dismissed his Real ID as fake | US immigration | The Guardian

    Yes, they're not all over 50 but I didn't realize age was a determining factor of whether your constitutional rights applied. Must be nice living in ignorance, eh? I could give two fucks about what they do in Singapore or Korea, as well, for the record. Why not mention North Korea and Saudi while you're at it?
    I cannot get beyond the paywalls. My point is simply that I, and similarly situated US citizens, can come and go as we please without any fear. In fact my family and I have traveled internationally a few times this year with zero issues. I mentioned other countries to illustrate that their border rules are even stricter than the US rules. But you do not give two fucks about global standards as a point of reference for an intelligent conversation about border control. Of course there are outliers, as there is with traffic stops here in the US, but if ICE detains you, 95% of the time there is a reason. Even if that reason may be thin. 
    Not so fast ICE is detaining Spanish and black peoples full stop! If I travel outside this country even though I carry American passport getting back in is where it gets dangerous! They are racially profiling immigrants brown folks like me 

    Jose I would guess you and your family will have no problem. Even if they question you, it will be done in a minute. They are not after you.
    lol....you do realize that people ARE being detained that are legal and/or US Citizens? It isn't just questioning...they are completely upending people from their daily routine and making it a complete hassle.
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  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 14,096
    Get_Right said:
    That article says nothing. The bubble is the US. The current admin is enforcing the bubble. You either have a right to be in the bubble or you don't. And if you don't, then do not be surprised by the tactics to remove you. Even though they might be more harsh than in the past. 
    When was the constitution suspended? Did I miss something? Being outside the bubble? For fucks sake.

    The constitution has not been suspended for people that have a right to it. For fucks sake, under the current admin you cannot just show up. You may have a problem. And yes, the current admin is going after people that may already be here. They are not picking names at random.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,092
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    That article says nothing. The bubble is the US. The current admin is enforcing the bubble. You either have a right to be in the bubble or you don't. And if you don't, then do not be surprised by the tactics to remove you. Even though they might be more harsh than in the past. 
    When was the constitution suspended? Did I miss something? Being outside the bubble? For fucks sake.

    The constitution has not been suspended for people that have a right to it. For fucks sake, under the current admin you cannot just show up. You may have a problem. And yes, the current admin is going after people that may already be here. They are not picking names at random.
    what an odd thing to say in a country whose constitution applies whether you are here legally or not
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 41,305
    tbergs said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Yea, just fucking stop, alright (copy and pasted from the Retirement thread). Guess you're taking the position that they had "bad intentions" or "improper credentials", should have obeyed ICE and that ICE is right, eh?

    Get_Right Posts: 14,053
    You only have to fear ICE if you are here with bad intentions or improper credentials. Try getting into Korea or Singapore with no visa. They do not put you up, they kick you out. There are no tents in Korea. Do you really think established US citizens over 50 with more than 30 years of hard work are at risk? Bullshit. More of your nonsense and scare tactics. We are fine. So get real and stop. Because you have no idea.
     Quote

    ICE handcuffs 71-year-old grandmother, a U.S. citizen, at San Diego immigration court

    US citizen, Army veteran detained at California immigration raid | CNN

    Four U.S. citizen children detained by Border Patrol in WA released | The Seattle Times

    US citizen detained by immigration officials who dismissed his Real ID as fake | US immigration | The Guardian

    Yes, they're not all over 50 but I didn't realize age was a determining factor of whether your constitutional rights applied. Must be nice living in ignorance, eh? I could give two fucks about what they do in Singapore or Korea, as well, for the record. Why not mention North Korea and Saudi while you're at it?
    I cannot get beyond the paywalls. My point is simply that I, and similarly situated US citizens, can come and go as we please without any fear. In fact my family and I have traveled internationally a few times this year with zero issues. I mentioned other countries to illustrate that their border rules are even stricter than the US rules. But you do not give two fucks about global standards as a point of reference for an intelligent conversation about border control. Of course there are outliers, as there is with traffic stops here in the US, but if ICE detains you, 95% of the time there is a reason. Even if that reason may be thin. 
    Not so fast ICE is detaining Spanish and black peoples full stop! If I travel outside this country even though I carry American passport getting back in is where it gets dangerous! They are racially profiling immigrants brown folks like me 

    Jose I would guess you and your family will have no problem. Even if they question you, it will be done in a minute. They are not after you.
    See, this is the slow walk to authoritarianism. Similar to what is expected of minorities during traffic stops and police interactions. Don't worry, even if they do question you, just comply and it will all be fine. What a weird perspective from a side closely associated with don't tread on me ideology.

    Basically admitting, yeah, you'll probably be racially profiled, but it's fine just give them what they want and they'll move on because they'll quickly determine you're not the "other" they are looking for. What a simplistic and ignorant viewpoint.
    If anyone other than Trump was in office I would say hooie to this.  But, since he is in I agree with this.
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 41,305
    Sometimes the mask comes off & one's suspicions are confirmed. 
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  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 14,096
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    That article says nothing. The bubble is the US. The current admin is enforcing the bubble. You either have a right to be in the bubble or you don't. And if you don't, then do not be surprised by the tactics to remove you. Even though they might be more harsh than in the past. 
    When was the constitution suspended? Did I miss something? Being outside the bubble? For fucks sake.

    The constitution has not been suspended for people that have a right to it. For fucks sake, under the current admin you cannot just show up. You may have a problem. And yes, the current admin is going after people that may already be here. They are not picking names at random.
    what an odd thing to say in a country whose constitution applies whether you are here legally or not

    Clearly not being interpreted that way by the current admin. 
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 41,305
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    That article says nothing. The bubble is the US. The current admin is enforcing the bubble. You either have a right to be in the bubble or you don't. And if you don't, then do not be surprised by the tactics to remove you. Even though they might be more harsh than in the past. 
    When was the constitution suspended? Did I miss something? Being outside the bubble? For fucks sake.

    The constitution has not been suspended for people that have a right to it. For fucks sake, under the current admin you cannot just show up. You may have a problem. And yes, the current admin is going after people that may already be here. They are not picking names at random.
    what an odd thing to say in a country whose constitution applies whether you are here legally or not
    100% true.  Even though you are here illegally you still have right to council and the other rights we have as citizens.


  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 14,096
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    That article says nothing. The bubble is the US. The current admin is enforcing the bubble. You either have a right to be in the bubble or you don't. And if you don't, then do not be surprised by the tactics to remove you. Even though they might be more harsh than in the past. 
    When was the constitution suspended? Did I miss something? Being outside the bubble? For fucks sake.

    The constitution has not been suspended for people that have a right to it. For fucks sake, under the current admin you cannot just show up. You may have a problem. And yes, the current admin is going after people that may already be here. They are not picking names at random.
    what an odd thing to say in a country whose constitution applies whether you are here legally or not
    100% true.  Even though you are here illegally you still have right to council and the other rights we have as citizens.



    Yes, but not a free one. There is no right to a free attorney in deportation cases. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,916
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    That article says nothing. The bubble is the US. The current admin is enforcing the bubble. You either have a right to be in the bubble or you don't. And if you don't, then do not be surprised by the tactics to remove you. Even though they might be more harsh than in the past. 
    When was the constitution suspended? Did I miss something? Being outside the bubble? For fucks sake.

    The constitution has not been suspended for people that have a right to it. For fucks sake, under the current admin you cannot just show up. You may have a problem. And yes, the current admin is going after people that may already be here. They are not picking names at random.
    US CITIZENS! What part of that don’t you fucking understand???
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  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 14,096
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    That article says nothing. The bubble is the US. The current admin is enforcing the bubble. You either have a right to be in the bubble or you don't. And if you don't, then do not be surprised by the tactics to remove you. Even though they might be more harsh than in the past. 
    When was the constitution suspended? Did I miss something? Being outside the bubble? For fucks sake.

    The constitution has not been suspended for people that have a right to it. For fucks sake, under the current admin you cannot just show up. You may have a problem. And yes, the current admin is going after people that may already be here. They are not picking names at random.
    US CITIZENS! What part of that don’t you fucking understand???

    Sorry but you make no valid points. And have yet to make any salient arguments.  Of course there will be outliers, but you have yet to convince me. Granted, border control is stricter than it was, but you are just stirring the pot.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,916
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    That article says nothing. The bubble is the US. The current admin is enforcing the bubble. You either have a right to be in the bubble or you don't. And if you don't, then do not be surprised by the tactics to remove you. Even though they might be more harsh than in the past. 
    When was the constitution suspended? Did I miss something? Being outside the bubble? For fucks sake.

    The constitution has not been suspended for people that have a right to it. For fucks sake, under the current admin you cannot just show up. You may have a problem. And yes, the current admin is going after people that may already be here. They are not picking names at random.
    US CITIZENS! What part of that don’t you fucking understand???

    Sorry but you make no valid points. And have yet to make any salient arguments.  Of course there will be outliers, but you have yet to convince me. Granted, border control is stricter than it was, but you are just stirring the pot.
    So, you don’t think US fucking CITIZENS being not only stopped, not only questioned but detained inside the FUCKING UNITED STATES is not a salient argument or a valid point? What in the actual fuck? 

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 44,226
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    That article says nothing. The bubble is the US. The current admin is enforcing the bubble. You either have a right to be in the bubble or you don't. And if you don't, then do not be surprised by the tactics to remove you. Even though they might be more harsh than in the past. 
    When was the constitution suspended? Did I miss something? Being outside the bubble? For fucks sake.

    The constitution has not been suspended for people that have a right to it. For fucks sake, under the current admin you cannot just show up. You may have a problem. And yes, the current admin is going after people that may already be here. They are not picking names at random.
    US CITIZENS! What part of that don’t you fucking understand???

    Sorry but you make no valid points. And have yet to make any salient arguments.  Of course there will be outliers, but you have yet to convince me. Granted, border control is stricter than it was, but you are just stirring the pot.
    So, you don’t think US fucking CITIZENS being not only stopped, not only questioned but detained inside the FUCKING UNITED STATES is not a salient argument or a valid point? What in the actual fuck? 

    Welcome to the United States of Fascism boys and girls, partly due to the viewpoint of Get Right and others who share same or similar views (there’s so many places I could go but you know, fascism).

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,916
    For the guy who thinks it’s just fine for ICE to detain US citizens INSIDE THE UNITED STATES. And doesn’t think that pointing it out, that it’s happening INSIDE THE UNITED STATES TO US CITIZENS is a valid argument, a salient point or an issue to be concerned with.

    ICE is acting like a rogue force, kidnapping and disappearing people off the streets with no due process,” said Jayapal. When ICE is conducting immigration enforcement, arresting and detaining U.S. citizens is illegal — and deporting U.S. citizens is illegal, full stop. But since Trump took over, ICE has been consistently breaking these laws and going after U.S. citizens, including young children. Congress must act to make it abundantly clear, with absolutely no grey area, that ICE cannot do this and ensure that agents who do act outside of their authority are held accountable.”
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,529
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    That article says nothing. The bubble is the US. The current admin is enforcing the bubble. You either have a right to be in the bubble or you don't. And if you don't, then do not be surprised by the tactics to remove you. Even though they might be more harsh than in the past. 
    When was the constitution suspended? Did I miss something? Being outside the bubble? For fucks sake.

    The constitution has not been suspended for people that have a right to it. For fucks sake, under the current admin you cannot just show up. You may have a problem. And yes, the current admin is going after people that may already be here. They are not picking names at random.
    what an odd thing to say in a country whose constitution applies whether you are here legally or not

    Clearly not being interpreted that way by the current admin. 
    Speaking of Madison, he would be against Trump invoking the Aliens Enemy Act:

    ‘With respect to alien enemies, no doubt has been intimated as to the federal authority over them; the constitution having expressly delegated to Congress the power to declare war against any nation, and of course to treat it and all its members as enemies. With respect to aliens, who are not enemies, but members of nations in peace and amity with the United States, the power assumed by the act of Congress, is denied to be constitutional;’
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 14,096
    edited July 22
    Stop me. Ask me questions. Search my bags. I have nothing to hide. Stop a thousand and catch one bad actor. I am fine with that. 
    Edit: You get detained when you do not cooperate. Police procedures do not avail you of constitutional rights. Failure to provide ID can get you put in Jail. Speak out or resist and that gets you in Jail. And yes, being loud and disorderly can get you in Jail. The courts will figure it out later. Get real.
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,249
    edited July 22
    Get_Right said:
    Stop me. Ask me questions. Search my bags. I have nothing to hide. Stop a thousand and catch one bad actor. I am fine with that. 
    At the border?  Yes.  

    But if you are walking down the street, you are okay being stopped and asked questions?

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,916
    COOTWH the clown just claimed before the president of the Philippines that Brandon allowed almost 300 million illegal immigrants into the US by way of the attendance of an Alabama/LSU football game stadium attendance, because he was there and they loved him, by the way, double it, and that’s what Brandon allowed in on a daily basis.

    And we should be trying to get to the bottom of the biggest political scandal in history when the Brandon deep state hid his mental decline and didn’t allow us a choice in November 2024? Man are we fucked.
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 10,388
    Get_Right said:
    Stop me. Ask me questions. Search my bags. I have nothing to hide. Stop a thousand and catch one bad actor. I am fine with that. 
    Edit: You get detained when you do not cooperate. Police procedures do not avail you of constitutional rights. Failure to provide ID can get you put in Jail. Speak out or resist and that gets you in Jail. And yes, being loud and disorderly can get you in Jail. The courts will figure it out later. Get real.
    Wow. You really are living in the wrong era and country. You also are willing to throw away 4th amendment rights as well. Cool.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,916
    Get_Right said:
    Stop me. Ask me questions. Search my bags. I have nothing to hide. Stop a thousand and catch one bad actor. I am fine with that. 
    Edit: You get detained when you do not cooperate. Police procedures do not avail you of constitutional rights. Failure to provide ID can get you put in Jail. Speak out or resist and that gets you in Jail. And yes, being loud and disorderly can get you in Jail. The courts will figure it out later. Get real.
    You should move to North Korea, Russia, China, maybe Singapore. You’d be much happier and safer, I think.

    You still don’t get it.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,916
    Get_Right said:
    Stop me. Ask me questions. Search my bags. I have nothing to hide. Stop a thousand and catch one bad actor. I am fine with that. 
    Edit: You get detained when you do not cooperate. Police procedures do not avail you of constitutional rights. Failure to provide ID can get you put in Jail. Speak out or resist and that gets you in Jail. And yes, being loud and disorderly can get you in Jail. The courts will figure it out later. Get real.
    You should move to North Korea, Russia, China, maybe Singapore. You’d be much happier and safer, I think.

    You still don’t get it.
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,249
    No administration wants to take any responsibility for the past actions of others in government.  We need to bite the bullet and give a pathway to citizenship for those here illegally who have not committed crimes.   Lock the border down, and make it known if you do not come forward by X date to enroll in the pathway, then you are subject to deportation.   Just like we need to actually balance the budget and pay debt down.  Got to put our big people pants on and act like adults. 
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 14,096
    Get_Right said:
    Stop me. Ask me questions. Search my bags. I have nothing to hide. Stop a thousand and catch one bad actor. I am fine with that. 
    At the border?  Yes.  

    But if you are walking down the street, you are okay being stopped and asked questions?


    Yes. I have nothing to hide. Even if it results in a detainment or jail, it will work out. I might even get paid for my inconvenience. 
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 14,096
    tbergs said:
    Get_Right said:
    Stop me. Ask me questions. Search my bags. I have nothing to hide. Stop a thousand and catch one bad actor. I am fine with that. 
    Edit: You get detained when you do not cooperate. Police procedures do not avail you of constitutional rights. Failure to provide ID can get you put in Jail. Speak out or resist and that gets you in Jail. And yes, being loud and disorderly can get you in Jail. The courts will figure it out later. Get real.
    Wow. You really are living in the wrong era and country. You also are willing to throw away 4th amendment rights as well. Cool.

    If you are not doing anything wrong, it will work itself out. I have no fear of being caught in a web. 
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,249
    edited July 22
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Stop me. Ask me questions. Search my bags. I have nothing to hide. Stop a thousand and catch one bad actor. I am fine with that. 
    At the border?  Yes.  

    But if you are walking down the street, you are okay being stopped and asked questions?


    Yes. I have nothing to hide. Even if it results in a detainment or jail, it will work out. I might even get paid for my inconvenience. 
    WTF. Just hand over your liberty.   Hello police state.  You have put a ridiculous amount of trust in your government that does not care one bit bit about you.  

    I don't understand how you think everything will work out.  How much is the legal bill you'll need to pay to get someone to listen?  What if you have $100 in the bank?  Someone's going to listen?   If the media doesn't care and publicize it, sorry, you are toast.  Say you get deported accidentally.  You think you are coming back to the states without money or the media standing up for you?  

    You are making scary comments for those that prefer freedom and liberty.  And sounds like you've lived a nice sheltered life thus far.  
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 12,738
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    Stop me. Ask me questions. Search my bags. I have nothing to hide. Stop a thousand and catch one bad actor. I am fine with that. 
    At the border?  Yes.  

    But if you are walking down the street, you are okay being stopped and asked questions?


    Yes. I have nothing to hide. Even if it results in a detainment or jail, it will work out. I might even get paid for my inconvenience. 
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,249
    edited July 22
    You are trusting a government led by a president that didn't pay his contractors because he knew they probably didn't have the means or the stomach to go through legal proceedings to enforce payment.  You'll be left hanging out to dry by your government if your issues don't create issues for them, or have the money to hire a decent lawyer to keep fighting for you.  
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