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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 10,363
    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:
    How incredibly low we have fallen...
    From Heather's letter 7/12/25:
    Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL) said: “These detainees are living in cages. The pictures you've seen don't do it justice. They are essentially packed into cages. Wall to wall humans. Thirty-two detainees per cage…. There are three tiny toilets that…have a sink attached to it, so…they get their drinking water and they brush their teeth where they poop, in the same unit." Nine hundred men are currently in the facility.

    The person whom wrote this has obviously never been to prison.  The toilets and sink are always a combination unit.  They must also have some crazy bathroom where the sink isn't next to their toilet...
    I built an outhouse in the backyard  for this reason.
    Huh, you built a whole enclosed structure? I just dug a hole and put a piece of plywood over it when not in use. Beats throwing it out the 2nd floor window every morning.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,563
    Sounds like we need a pooping thread.  

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,722
    brianlux said:
    Sounds like we need a pooping thread.  

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    Everybody poops, Brian.
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,632
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    But if it’s a need to keep score and the point is to say, "look Obama and Biden too", then fine. Obama and Biden too were wrong. 
    If it’s always wrong, is it wrong in jail, prisons and drunk tanks too? Because that’s been common use for about 75 years there. But I’ve yet to hear a single member of congress complain about someone in a drum tank washing their hands where they poop.
    One reason it seemed so out of place to play the race card and call me racist. I’m not saying immigrants deserve less, I’m saying it’s been common practice for a very long time. And only now, and only for ICE detention centers is anyone complaining about it. If it’s wrong and inhumane, then it’s wrong for everyone, right?

    Now a lot of people took my comment on the sinks to say I’m normalizing everything Trump is doing. I’ll say it for about the 6th time, I’m not. I don’t agree with his rhetoric, the round ups, the mass deportation, the concept of alligator Alcatraz, etc. But when the main complaint I keep saying is calling them cages and saying they poop and brush their teeth in the same unit, when they haven’t said anything about it in the last 15 years, I can’t help but roll my eyes at those comments.
    By your logic when Obama & Biden were doing the same thing I ask why didn’t the GOP hierarchy cry foul? Like the Democrats are doing now? Could it be they don’t give a fuck how immigrants are treated so if they were it’s all good? 
    You’ve missed the point and that’s an easy answer. They didn’t cry foul because there isn’t anything inherently wrong with using those combo sinks. That’s why they’ve been used for decades in several different capacities. Why do people only complain when it’s an ice detention center and only when Trump is in office? If it’s that bad, go stand up for the jails, prisons and any other place that uses the same thing.

    It’s hard to take a politician seriously when they show up on tv in tears saying people and brushing their teeth out of the toilet when they’ve never said a word about it before. That’s the one complaint I hear more than any other.

    And, to be absolutely clear again, I disagree with a lot of the other things going on. But the complaint I hear most is about those combo sinks.

    Better yet, write a check to Uncle Sam. Start a go fund me. Put their money where their mouths are. Demand better and pay for it. Taxes solves everything. Mamdani for prez. They only yell when it’s the Rs doing it because they’re hoping to score political points. Otherwise they’d be yelling at Biden. Which they should do,  He’s the one that brought us trump2
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 9,326
    Mamdani can’t run for president. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,722
    Mamdani can’t run for president. 
    I admire your patience.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 31,395
    Fuck the toilet & sinks for fucks sake that’s not what is horrible! I’m sure at Riker’s they get to go outside I’m positive there’s not 32 inmates per cell they get to use their phones and your not crapping in front of 30 inmates! 
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,563
    ^^^ Spot on.
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  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 14,046
    No phones. Hard beds, crappy bedding, bad shoes, and the worst food you will ever eat. You do not want to be incarcerated. Scary that some people think the US is kind to inmates. Imagine what that means outside the US.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 31,395
    Get_Right said:
    No phones. Hard beds, crappy bedding, bad shoes, and the worst food you will ever eat. You do not want to be incarcerated. Scary that some people think the US is kind to inmates. Imagine what that means outside the US.
    Yet Alligator Alcatraz is ten times worse 
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 31,395
    https://www.governing.com/archive/tns-free-calls-for-inmates-nyc.html
    While conditions are terrible in most jails I still believe Alligator Alcatraz is worse 
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,632
     Tim Simmons said:
    Mamdani can’t run for president. 
    I admire your patience.
    Geez do they even have mirrors in the country you live in?
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 31,395
     Tim Simmons said:
    Mamdani can’t run for president. 
    I admire your patience.
    Geez do they even have mirrors in the country you live in?
    Do they in yours 
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,632
    Mamdani can’t run for president. 
    Thanks, I’ll be more careful noting his country of birth. Hopeful trump signs an EO extending Article II section 1 to nyc. 


  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 9,326
    hmmmmmm
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 31,395
    Socialist are coming socialist are coming get your $$$ out of banks hide it underneath your mattress 
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